So state secession...

Are these people serious?

When I talk about a modern state secession I'm doing so in a purely hypothetical sense like talking about cloning dinosaurs or my cousins bathing.

Is this a prominent thing everywhere or just red states with FB accounts?

Was wondering when this would be brought up here.

I was hoping someone would bring up a discussion about this. Kind of surprised the amount of people who have put their name to the petitions.

Not that we're in any way Ina situation that would be a catalyst for an actual, widespread separatist movement, but it's interesting to think about what would have to happen to force it.

Would it be a gradual thing, that slowly builds up over the next decades/century? One or a small number of large actions that spark anger?(ie, repealing 2nd Amendment rights, UN intervention in some large scale riot, etc.)

It'd be interesting to talk about where the divides would actually occur, what the "separation" would look like, and what level of violence actually happened.

I am sure some members of the forum will just brush it away offhand, and pretend that anyone who discusses the possibility is a loon. However, I think you can at least look at it as a hypothetical. We're a very large country, with a media that loves to blow things out of proportion. It's not unreal to think that however much farther in the future(whether it be decades or centuries) that the US as we know it won't be one large entity. It's happened in every other portion of the world, I'd not be surprised if something happens in the next 200 years.

Yeah and some Quebecois have wanted independence for ages, along with the Cascadia people, doesn't mean it matters. 

choopie911 wrote: BARREL BREAK wrote: Yeah and some Quebecois have wanted independence for ages, along with the Cascadia people, doesn't mean it matters.  Cascadia is more of a region/ idea though, it hasn't been serious in quite some time. Some Quebecois still want to leave, but that's just dumb.

As for the OT: Cracked.com has an unusually less-snarky article that sums it up pretty succinctly.

I think it is more a message to Washington rather than a real threat. Secession is available for 'States' under the Constitution, it is a legal and viable alternative, but the practicality of it is questionable.

Would I like to see a United Central States of America in the 'red' heartland, free of the dependant 'broke' states, yes, practical, no.
The social values of Nebraska are far differant than New York, and our voting represented that. That is where the problem lies. The dominant coastal and uppeer belt states tend to garner all the attention, while Nebraska and states in the area are just "who cares, fly over states".

If we are ignored by the 'powerfull' maybe going our own way may be a good thing, but who will pay in the long run....

Where do you get this? The six major corn growers here in Ceresco get NO subsidies, and lost thier shirts from the dry we had this year.
The ethanol subsidies are long gone, and few if any grow for corn for ethanol anymore.
The local quikstop breakfast that I sat in on the major complain and thought of the day complaint was NO help from the Feds on this years losses, as well as the price per bushel down since quality was down.
Several did not even make costs.

Now imagine a crop that could be sold on a free market to the Coastal Union that could arise from a seperation, a economy free of Federal policies that benifit the 'Blue' at the cost of the 'Red'. The Chinese and Russians in competition for the crop, yes the UCSA would benifit from a secession in many ways. Notice where major industry is relocating to? Wonder why, could it be the difference in mindset here in the 'Heartland' over the coastal fiscal fiascos. We have <4% unemployment in our area, and have to import out of state labor, the I-80 corridor from Omaha to Lincoln is a mass of construction of factories, distribution centers, warehousing, how is Florida or Ohio doing? Now imagine the UCSA as a seperate and now equal 'State' in direct economic competition with the USA.

It won't happen but the potential is fun to think about.

You really need to get out here listen and see for yourself what is happening in rural fly over country, rather than listening to the 'approved' version from the sources you prefere.