2016 Primaries

Who will it be?

I honestly think Sanders is a real threat to Hillary and the better choice for the Democratic nomination.

I had hopes for Rubio about 4-6 years ago, but he's pandered too much to the far right for my likes. He is one of the few that didn't totally stick his foot in his mouth with the SCOTUS ruling on same-sex marriage.

Unfortunately, the crap-show that is the GOP field right now is going to make it impossible for a realistic nomination.

Even worse though, is the fact that Rand Paul seems to have the Libertarian selection all wrapped up. He's a dyed-in-the-wool Republican (always has been) who is trying to run on his dad's coat-tails.

I keep typing a bunch of stuff and it keeps getting eaten by the spam filters. 

And now for the Republicans! 

The long and short of this election is that it's probably going to end up being Hillary vs. Jeb, it will be an election year with very low turnout because of two legacy names on the ticket, and the winner will be the one who manages to bore their base less. 

agentwhale007 wrote: tallen702 wrote: I honestly think Sanders is a real threat to Hillary and the better choice for the Democratic nomination.  Sanders is a better choice for the nomination in a world where the general elections don't actually happen.

Sanders would stand a much better chance in open primaries (a la Virginia) IMHO given that he appeals to the moderate right much more. Unfortunately, the system doesn't work that way. Of course, the Hillary prediction is contingent on strong voter turnout for her in the primaries, I know you study this stuff way more than I do, but I still think Sanders is going to make it tough on her come debate season.

The sad thing is, I can actually SEE Sanders running the executive branch well. Hillary has had plenty of time being close to the PoTUS, but still lacks command experience. Sure, she's had plenty of observation experience, but she's not really been calling the shots on any major issues. Her time as SoS saw her traveling a lot (she visited more countries than any other SoS in history) but she spread herself too thin and doesn't have much in the way of a lasting legacy as she never really accomplished a major positive milestone for herself (no real "Kissinger" moment).

To me, she's someone who has minimal experience in government who ran on name recognition to get where she is, and is now trying to leverage that name in addition to being a woman, to give her some sort of leg-up on the competition. I'm not saying that's anything different than W. did, but you have to call a spade a spade.

At the very least, someone like Jeb Bush has executive branch experience, albeit on the state level.

As for Jeb, I too think he'll ultimately wind up being the GOP nominee. It doesn't excite me, but it doesn't fill me with a sense of dread either. At the very least, he's got his brother's missteps to learn from.

I can say this. I've talked with enough "boomers" to know that if it comes down to a Bush v Clinton general election, voter apathy in the over-50 crowd will be an all-time high.

Is a "Kissinger" moment when you become a mass-murderer?

impulse418 wrote: TIL I'm dangerously asinine.

 

agentwhale007 wrote: usafpilot07 wrote: I liked Ben Carson a lot, though I've soured on him a bit lately since he's starting spouting religious rhetoric every chance he gets. Carson is a Seventh Day Adventist. His religious beliefs tell him that we are quite literally in The End Of Days, that Jesus's return to Earth is imminent because of prophesies in Revelation, and visions given directly from God to the Prophet Ellen G. White.  She was an epileptic woman who lived in the 1800s who, among other things, said that God told her that the end of the world would involve all governments on Earth giving over their power to the Vatican. After that, the Pope's first act will be to make it illegal for Adventists to go to church on Saturday instead of Sunday. Thus will kick off the Beginning of the End.  It's straight-up bonkers.  Also, Ben Carson is a spiteful, hateful homophobe.

Too generic of a test.  It said I agree with Cruz on immigration.  NOPE.