2016 Primaries

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At my age and financial situation in November 2016 I will vote for the lessor of BOTH the evils presented. The current crop of idiots across the board are again a poor selection. I am tired of both houses of royalty (Clinton, Bush), who more than likely survive the current political circus, we need fresh ideas folks.

Understand we saw in the 60's and 70's the radicals who had all the answers rise in power, then when in power (politics, business)decided to become the same thing they hated as the reality of a modern world hit them right in the face.

The current state of the nation is shown as more people were interested in the media 'reality show' circus of Confederate Flag and Gay Marriage than the real issues facing America. We are running out of other peoples money to give away, we point at those who pay the majority of taxes as evil, and those who receive the benefits and feel entitled are seen as saints and deserving. There is evil in the world but again we would rather appease and pretend it does not exist (ISIS, Russia, China, Iran, etc) and when we pay for this in the future where will the blame lay as we sell them the means to destroy us.

I am tired of going back to NY and seeing the empty factories along the interstates as the States political policies made these industries and people flee NY. I am tired of Nebraska Oma/Lincoln political policies forgetting the rural base of Nebraska who provides far more economically than Oma/Lincoln (where would Nebraska be without the corn and cattle industries?) Why does my neighbor(large corn acreage) have to have a wind power tower that is more expensive to maintain than the power it provides. Finally why is the wife now going CHAMP VA for her medical care when the President's policy and maybe legacy of inexpensive medical care for all doubled her health care plans monthly premiums. Thank God we had the option and kids are gone. But how are the kids and their kids going to 'afford' this cheaper health care?

As you all have grown, many now with families your political choices should be geared to how it will effect your kids generation rather than give you what you need now, at the cost of what they will end up paying for. That in itself is the crime of American politics.

It is the simple issues around you that should be the base of your decision, not that soap opera in DC and in the media.

Edited by oldsoldier - 13 July 2015 at 4:25pm

Yes, based on the simple fact that I want all you do, to a point, environment is a good cause, my Stepson is also gay so you make a false assumption there as well, but the ability for the future generations not having to 'pay' for all the freebies given out today to those who lack the drive to succeed on their own. And yes I want future generations to have the chances I had, the ability to succeed without being dependent on government for everything, or be called 'evil' rich because they managed to succeed without government. Nothing is 'free' someone has to pay for every healthcare reform, and how much more in taxes will we pay to provide healthcare for those who do not have the self discipline to keep up their own health. Accidents and catastrophic issues different than some overweight, smoker with a heart condition, or someone sticking something somewhere it should not go unprotected and getting some STD.

When you get where I am believe me you views on politics will change as your wallet is on a fixed income, and some rich **edited** from Arkansas with a D on her name wants to take more of my 'pay' and give it to someone else. I earned my retirement, disability, and paid for my Social Security, but I need to pay more so those who feel the need to get all this for 'free' can. All of a sudden the benefit I get from the VA based on my disability rating for my dependents college is 'taxable' so $21,000 last year was declared taxable, thanks Obama and Democrats, fun return and some more money to the government to waste, yet some college kid believes he is entitled to his tuition to be 'free'   These throw me money and I will provide 'instant' solutions to all our problems so far has been a classic failure.

Our country can not figure out how to provide competent medical care for 2.5 million veterans let alone 360million. If it were not for the evil 'rich' we would be Greece right now. If Democrats get their way we Veterans will have to pay or pay more for the post service Medical we were promised in that contract with the government we signed, but certain groups will get their medical care 'free'. So yes I have some dogs in the Nov 2016 elections, and if you read I am tired of the Royal Families of the Bush's and Clintons.

And finally until politicians use the same services they force on the people as being so good, their kids in public schools, their medical as Obamacare demands, only then will I believe either party has the people in mind. And yes I want future generations to enjoy the Planet, but also want those generations not to be totally dependent of government and over regulated by that same government who seems to exempt the 'political' class.

Now this is the forum I remember. 

Really check you sources. Tom Hayden for example radical counter-culture in 60's early 70's then Democrat politician in mid 70's. You really need to review your history.

In case you wonder, I'm gathering my info from the Huffington Post Pollster page, which takes a bunch of other national polls and smushes them into one amalgamation of public polling numbers, which is really the only helpful thing we can do right now to make sense of different polling patterns. 

oldsoldier wrote: The current state of the nation is shown as more people were interested in the media 'reality show' circus of Confederate Flag and Gay Marriage than the real issues facing America.

 

Whale, as you too age and find the reality of wife, kids, work and taxes you will begin to understand the frustrations of many out here. You are young and in your rebellious, I am going to change the world mode, as I was 40 years ago, and 40 years from now you are going to review this time and go what was I thinking.

My concern now being on a fixed income is which political idiot is going to take less of this fixed income to give to someone else far less motivated than I was. I am part of the 'other people's money' the Government seems to enjoy taking to redistribute.

For example for three kids previously I received VA benefits based on my disability for their college education, tax free. April 15 based on some income tax legislation that benefit 'earned', by my service,and not entitled was determined now to be taxable income, so in the research this was a Democrat led snuck in under the radar Tax Law change. I had to write a BIG check to the IRS, and with the fixed income had a dramatic effect to my economy, and she has 2 more years to go. So that Obama claim on wanting 'free' college is total Bravo Sierra, for look what his party did to me, one individual who is 'paying' for one of his kids to go to college, I earned that 'benifit' with blood, tears, and sacrifice all those years ago, not standing on a corner with a sign saying I am entitled to this 'now'.

The wife's health care plan available through her employer (City of Lincoln) has now doubled the premiums on ACA becoming 'law'. So another case of an 'affordable' healthcare law is only affordable to those who get their healthcare paid for by someone else. The wife is now enrolled in CHAMPVA, so her healthcare is now affordable for she gets 100% of her medical needs as part of my VA benefit, not the option we wanted, but the option we can afford under this Affordable Healthcare.

I can actually look at my 2008 tax return, and my 2014 tax return and just based on the percentages I got to keep more of my money in 2008, than in 2014. So I can honestly answer the question, am I better off under Obama, or Bush, I can prove I was better off under Bush as I 'retired' in 2007 and went fixed income. So what can Democrats offer me, higher taxes, on a fixed income, so my incentives to vote Democrat are?

My priority in this election is to vote for whoever will take less of that fixed income to give to someone else, as I am the 'other people's money' that all this perceived 'free' stuff for the less motivated comes from.

You are a journalist and should understand the term 'Maskirovka' when it is applied to politics. Get the compliant media to yell "SQUIRREL" in a room to distract that room from the real problems and get them focused on some meaningless little problem of the moment.

I am just really tired of The Royal Families (Bush, Clinton), and the 'political class' telling us the people how we should live, while they exempt themselves. If public schools are so great, the Political Class kids go to them as well, if Obamacare so good the Political Class is enrolled as well.

I understand Hillary and her promises meaning little as her NY Senate promise was 'forgotten' in her first run. I understand Trump and his ability to fund his whole campaign himself (good thing), his need to speak his mind, not read a teleprompter, cue card based on a focused group tested speech writers words addressing the audience of the night. But I do not see Trump as even close to being my considered candidate.

Here in Nebraska, just like NY, Omaha/Lincoln are the focus, and the 'rubes' who grow the corn, process the beef for the states economy mean nothing in the face of all the entitlement needs of those who sit in North Omaha for example, unemployed by choice (our unemployment rate is around 4% there are jobs available). It is so bad here that we have to import labor from neighboring states as the professional unemployed here in Nebraska demand more in benefits and will not go to where the jobs are. And the Democrat state politicians foster this dependency as a solid voting base. The same mistakes NY made Nebraska Democrats are running headlong to repeat.

40 years from now one of your grandchildren will ask you a question where you know on the outside you will say X, but on the inside you will know the real response, as you look into that mirror of life.

Edited by oldsoldier - 16 July 2015 at 3:50pm

oldsoldier wrote: You are young and in your rebellious, I am going to change the world mode,

Edited by agentwhale007 - 17 July 2015 at 12:05am

Whale I will get you source material as well as citations when I get the time.

The problem as you know is getting by the perceptions rather than the reality. The local farmers are up in arms as they see A and are told B by the State and Federal Government. My next door neighbor already lost money as his crop is going for far less than he put into it. All you got to do is sit by a table at the local breakfast joint and listen to the 'heartbeat' of America.

The tax code is available thru the IRS, I forgot what it was but momma doing or taxes was 'told' it through the tax program she used to do our taxes. Program is VA Chapter 35 http://www.benefits.va.gov/gibill/resources/benefits_resources/rates/ch35/ch35rates100113.asp
And the tax code stuff I can find is as follows, which did not match what the IRS tax advisor momma called to verify the taxable status of our benefit.http://www.irs.gov/publications/p970/ch01.html#en_US_2014_publink1000178026

You talk of tax differences, what about the standard costs of consumer goods and the difference there from 2008 to 2015 and the root causes of this increase, and the drive to raise minimum wage, yet the unforeseen costs of increased cost consumer goods, and the fixed income people not able to keep up. What is it called again? Law of unintentional consequence?

Again you won't really notice all this until you get here as well, as every month you got to balance the 'fixed' inflow to outflow, and the outflow is starting to way outpace your 'fixed' inflow, dipping into that savings you planned to use way differently, then you will get it.

And I am not the only one at our age playing this 'game', and losing.

Really Whale take a research tour of rural farm America, and just listen, sit in the local and other truck stops and listen to the plight of the owner operator and company drivers, you understand the plight of the student, but what about the parents that provide for those students.
Two local professors did a tour with me to the Squeegie Breakfast joint and listened, then we sat at the Flying J truck Stop and listened over lunch and dinner, and the real liberal who missed out being a hippie female went on the back of my Harley on a Patriot Guard soldier's funeral, and she saw what diversity is all about, did not match her perception of 'Bikers' or 'Patriots' she was teaching. She passed recently and I attended her funeral on my Harley and dressed let's say diversely, and her peers came up to me and asked if I was the one who took her on that tour, and how she changed her outlook after it. Mission accomplished.

Education is great, but sometimes blind to the actual subject taught, and the economic argument I have with a local retired professor is great. He complains about the economy and pay inequity, and I ask him when he negotiated his salary did he go for the best deal and forget the students who pay for his salary and benefits, or a balanced deal he demands others today to accept. He got his, now time to ensure someone else can not do as he did.

Once again the political circus is just that anymore, and we pick the 'clown' who meets our perceptions of need, and will hopefully damage our wallet the least. Hillary, Bush or Trump DO NOT meet my needs.

Edited by oldsoldier - 17 July 2015 at 12:48pm