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StormyKnight
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I'd go out on a limb and say either New York or Pennsylvania. Those are the only main states that would make a large enough impact. My gut feeling is Clinton will carry both. But of the two, I think Trump has a better chance at Pennsylvania than New York.
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Eville
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And here we see the GOP playbook for the last 8 years. Screw everything up and say Obama did it. Shocking.
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Reb Cpl
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As a New Yorker, I can say with almost certainty that Trump won't take it. As with most other cases, "Upstate" will vote republican, but "The City' historically votes democratic, and carries through each time. It's one of the frustrations of living in the rural part of NY. The overwhelming geographic majority of the state carries zero weight in elections at the state or national level....even when the republican candidates aren't jackasses. The whim of NYC is where everything ends up. |
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agentwhale007
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Trump hasn't polled above 40% in New York since, I think, ever. Clinton has had a ~20 point lead in the state for four months. If New York were to flip, it would be the biggest, most historic error in polling and projection to ever happen. Which makes it seem unlikely. Pennsylvania stopping being much of a swing state in September, although I guess it's more likely to happen than New York. Clinton has been polling at about 4 point lead there for a while.
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oldsoldier
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Why we had Obama and the Democrats blaming Bush for everything they did wrong, so the point of the exercise is? Michelle and the school lunch programs of 'healthy inedible food, no Republicans involved. The Affordable Care Act, few if any Republicans involved in origin or it's passing. Rise of the Black Lives Matter, and Obama Administration 'support' at the expense of the majority of Blue Lives that do their jobs right. Fail to see where a Republican was involved in this. And the division of the population, just check the Obama Administrations policies and targeting and why we are so fractures as a society and culture |
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oldsoldier
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I really do not trust the polls, as a lot of 'underground' Trump supports for fear of Democrat 'retribution' are staying 'down' till they get in the voting booth.
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StormyKnight
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Not one Republican voted for it. Zip. Zero. Nada...
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tallen702
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NH was up in the air last I saw. PA is a possible swing for Trump. Not sure if the polling there has really gotten out into the "T" that tends to go conservative or not. I do know that driving through there to see the inlaws, I see a LOT more Trump signs than Hillary signs.
MD could be interesting in theory. We just voted in a Republican governor 2 years ago, and the Senate and House races are anything but a done-deal. Szeliga is carrying a lot of weight with cross-over democrats that also voted for Hogan during the Gubernatorial races, same goes for Amie Hoeber in the House race in my district. Dems have done a lot of early voting, but the reality here is that a "D" on your voter's registration doesn't guarantee a vote for that party anymore. There's been a HUGE "DINO" push recently to affect the primaries as much as possible to shake up the state's situation. So who knows which way it'll go in the end. I think it'll still go Clinton, but it'll be a tighter race than she'd have hoped for. |
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usafpilot07
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Trump ending up as the Republican nomination in a year when the GOP should have been able to stomp towards a landslide, and Hillary ending up in a tight race hoping swing states don't fall against her even though she's against Trump:
Both exceptional examples of how horribly mismanaged both major parties are.
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tallen702
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Yup. The GOP could have put virgually ANYONE up there other than Trump and won in a landslide. I'll be interested to see how any super delegates are added to the GOP convention process in the next 4 years. |
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usafpilot07
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Interesting to see so many newspapers officially endorse Clinton.
So, corporations should be restricted when it comes to campaign contributions and political voice, but ones from the media should be allowed to be partisan. Got it. |
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Benjichang
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I made this handy election day guide.
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oldsoldier
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And it has been said that Clinton DOES NOT 'own' the 'press'. Again journalism is DEAD, the 'press' is just another arm of the Democrat Party. |
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Eville
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This seems like a deliberate misrepresentation of the argument you're countering. I don't think anyone cares who a corporation or newspaper endorses. A company saying that they think a certain candidate is better than the other isn't an issue. The issue is when a company or industry spends millions or billions of dollars buying off elected officials (through "campaign contributions"). Those two actions are apples and oranges my friend.
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SSOK
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11:30 EST, I really need to go to bed.
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agentwhale007
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Well that went differently than expected.
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SSOK
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lulz sorry whale
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Eville
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I'm going going back back to war war.
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Reb Cpl
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I'm working tonight....had to stay sober for all this nonsense.
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Eville
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Me right now.
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