super trig

thats easy to understand, micro switch placed on the inside of the trigger gaurd opposite of the trigger, i dont see why it wouldnt work but its kind of pointless

Sounds interesting. Basically its a trigger that when you pull it, it hits another trigger causing the gun to shoot 2x as fast. I like the idea, but it seems like it would be hard to do.

i think what he is saying is that there is 2 triggers that can fire the marker one consisting of the normal trigger and the other is the trigger guard. when you go to shoot your finger hits the trigger (like it would on any other marker) and then the nail on your finger hits the trigger guard causing it to fire again. is this what you have FROG MAN?

Yeah, i understand.  It would be a fun project, and is very practical if you don't train your fingers to not hit the trigger guard.

the magnets don't sound very good, wouldn't they get stuck on the grip if there's a receiver magnet or something there?  that would also suck battery power in electros...

as for the original idea, if the trigger guard could be slanted in a way so when you're walking the trigger, your fingers don't hit the guard and the trigger at the same time, so its not a double feed, i guess. 

jerry wrote: the magnets don't sound very good, wouldn't they get stuck on the grip if there's a receiver magnet or something there?  that would also suck battery power in electros...

They won't get stuck. The way I would do it is by making the trigger and switches have the same polarity so they will repel each other. I really would be better off giving a picture to describe this but until I can make one I'll do my best. The magnet would be attached to a small metal contact which can be bent fairly easily to touch another piece of metal. This is how the switch is made. Normally there is space between the two pieces of metal which means no current can flow and the gun does nothing. When the trigger magnet gets pushed closer it repels the one on the switch, pushing it into the other piece of metal which in turn allows current to flow thus firing the gun. You simply put one of these on both sides of the trigger and now you have two switches in parallel so that when either closes, the gun will fire. You won't have to worry about the timing because the trigger will be setup so that it can't activate both switches at once. You just give it about 1 mm of play to start with (can be adjusted if desired) so 1/2 mm in either direction from resting position will fire it. Decreasing the distance will make it fire faster but you don't want it to be too sensitive or else you could have a runaway trigger. This thing should also have a safety switch because it has the potential to start blasting in full auto if the pull is too small, depending on the recoil of the gun. I would design it so that it can't be adjusted like that for safety reasons.

Hopefully I described it well enough that you can envision my idea but if not, I'll have a picture soon to clarify. I honestly think this idea has potential and I'm going to add it to the list of things I want to make for my gun. I'll try to make a prototype trigger and find out how quickly I can shoot with it. In the meantime, look it over and let me know of any flaws in my design. Also, Frog man, if you feel that I'm hijacking your thread with my idea, let me know and I'll start a new one. I'm just curious as to what people think about this and I posted it here because it could help you with your idea. But if you want me to get my own thread, let me know.

Edit: In response to the 2 triggers sucking battery power comment, I disagree. Having 2 triggers may result in your batteries dying faster but not because more power is being used to fire the gun. Each shot still takes the same amount of power and you'll get the same amount of shots per battery. The reason it will seem like you're going through batteries more quickly is because your ROF will be up. Shooting 10 bps for 20 hours of battery life is no more efficient than shooting 20 bps for 10 hours, you still shoot the same amount of paint but in less time at 20 bps. The switches don't draw any power because, basically, a switch is just a wire that can be broken/returned to normal at will.

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Ah, easy. A small plastic piece that stops the second secret trigger from working. Much like a safety, but micro-safety-ish. So, when the ref runs over, you just bonk the little know and hey, everything's ok. when he buggers off, you click her back on. Of course, that's cheating. However, since the A-5 is pretty simple to switch grips, using this in every day weekend play... every day weekend? What the crap did I just say? In normal play, it would be fun. In tourneys, you just switch over to your normal grip.

that would be sweet

oh yeah ^^^ cheating is like part of Xball sooo

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