X7 Phenom Chopping

Hi,

Hi folks,
here is a X7P customer from Germany.

A couple of weeks I had my first BigGame in Poland where you can play in full automatic mode. ( in Germany it isn´t allowed )
What should I tell you ... I had a ball break every 30-40 shots !

Locally was an experienced Tippmann technician who has tried to fix the problem. We changed the whole Flex-Valve system and he still tinkered around with some parts. At this time I already used the squishy paddles, and even the Techt MRT Bolt !!

The technician said that the squishy paddle is not really intended for the X7 Phenom and I should first build back all parts to the original one. Of course, I had not all parts in place. Now I have everything dismantled. Tonight I'm going to check the edges of the standard bold. Perhaps there is indeed a cause.

But slowly I am afraid that the purchasing decision for the X7P was a mistake!

And I not really want to accept the statement about the paint ! Finally, you have to play the paint is offered in the field and the other guys also do not have these problems with it.


Edited by Yogi - 19 May 2011 at 9:03am

Thanks for the note, I have found a sharp edge and ground off. I'll have to test in the field when I play again.

Hi
well i just got my phenom 2 weeks ago and all i have to say is this
i will never again buy a tippman product
it breaks paint ! ok i know what you going to say , did you try this and that new paint, the bolt,new paddels
yes i did try everthing and more. now it still breaks paint all i can do now is try to sell it as a used marker but i feel bad for trying to sell pice of junk to other paintball palyer oh and yes its not just my marker
my friend got one at the same time and guess what ... its just as bad
ive been playing paintball for 4 years and i did try many  markers in my time i do have 98 custom  a5  and few others  non tippman markers and the tippmann products always i mean every singel one of them have some sort of a problem wich yas you can fix after spending some money on after market part but why should you ?
my advice for phenom owners
try to get your money back and dont ever buy tippman again

Hey guys, I found a nice Video about a "Cyclon Feed Chopping" analyses which sounds a little bit like my own story !

PART1 = http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-n-SKeRGgDI
PART2 = http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLCymT8lrdc

It seems to me, that in some marker settings such things like a Tech-Bolt and/or "Cyclon Feed Tuning parts" like "Squeeze paddle" can cause more problems instead of fix them ! Like an overrotating of the paddles !

So my personal opinion is, don´t put your hands on this parts !
Ok my problem goes one step futher at the moment. I still have the problem with stock parts...
To be continued




Edited by Yogi - 27 June 2011 at 8:18am

Yogi wrote: Hey guys, I found a nice Video about a "Cyclon Feed Chopping" analyses which sounds a little bit like my own story ! PART1 = http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-n-SKeRGgDI PART2 = http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLCymT8lrdc It seems to me, that in some marker settings such things like a Tech-Bolt and/or "Cyclon Feed Tuning parts" like "Squeeze paddle" can cause more problems instead of fix them ! Like an overrotating of the paddles ! So my personal opinion is, don´t put your hands on this parts ! Ok my problem goes one step futher at the moment. I still have the problem with stock parts... To be continued

Yes totally agree with you, I still have this under rotation problem, its nothing to do with the marker, it the cyclone itself.

If you rotate they cyclone by hand  it will miss alighn the paddles after a couple of cycles, if you take the top set of paddles of its fine so my concluesion is that the top set is fouling on the cyclone body.I think this may be due to too much play in paddle shaft. If Tippmann made the bottom of the cyclone thicker it would support the shaft better and may eliminate alot of cyclone problems maybe

Daz

We had a customer come in with the same issues as listed, namely, chopping paintballs.  After looking at everything, we finally discovered that the gears that came stock in the cyclone feed were manufactured incorrectly.  They were off by just a few millimeters, but that was causing the paintballs to roll back into the cyclone feed and thus chop paint.  We compared the position of the paddles with the stock gears and with a TechT Vortex Mod.  We have informed Tippmann about our findings including pictures.