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I too have an A5 that has a hopper that just stopped working.

Checked the air line: Air is entering the plunger fine.
Checked the ratchet: Fine.

The only change is that I added a CAR stock. I'll try to remove it to see if that makes a difference, but why would adding a stock matter? Is air escaping out the rear of the breach since the car stock is not air tight like the original A5 back (it has no oring to seal it).

Other ideas?
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Originally posted by aimpulsive aimpulsive wrote:

I too have an A5 that has a hopper that just stopped working.

Checked the air line: Air is entering the plunger fine.
Checked the ratchet: Fine.

The only change is that I added a CAR stock. I'll try to remove it to
see if that makes a difference, but why would adding a stock matter? Is
air escaping out the rear of the breach since the car stock is not air
tight like the original A5 back (it has no oring to seal it).

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Does the Car stock have the velocity adjuster on it? The one that I got did have a velocity adjustment on it, but I don't see how that would affect the cyclone feeder... I would be more inclined to suggest that the rachet is worn down enough that it does not push the cyclone (the clicking noise) enough to cycle it... Even the smallest piece of the one corner is enough to make the cyclone inop. I've actually gone through two rachets since I've had my A5, so the part does wear out over time and use. IE, the more you play and shoot the faster the rachet will wear down.

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I have the same problem.  Took it apart and found that the end of the piston that works the ratchet is worn out.  Where can I order one of those?

 

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the cup seal and spring can wear and cause gas blow by (like work piston rings in an engine) You will have less pressure to push the piston, and a worn spring will not have enough power to rotate the cyclone. (the spring actually turns the cyclone and feeds the ball) combined with a worn ratchet, the cyclone will not function properly. I would say that a worn cup seal, ratchet, and spring are the majority of all your problems.
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Holy ****, this is scary!!! not really, but anyways i was playing sat. at the opening day of my "home field", big turn out- about 120 people for 2 games.  But even though i got bout 4 games in, my marker has all of the symptoms above.  I was playing speedball when all of a sudden i start shooting blanks, i was so mad cuz i snuck around the snake and was like 15 ft behind a kid looking the other way when this happens.  So i got eliminated and at the beginnning of the next round i just stood behind a back bunker and treated my marker like a pump.  Then after a while i got the triple shot, but it was highly exaggerated and then finally totally out of co2.

The conditions - 267 FPS, about 60-70 degrees out, I have no stock, and e-grip, J&J Ceramic 12 inch

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Check your ratchets folks. The plungers wear out too. Instead of reposting, read the posts you all skipped over. You can order new parts from Tippmann or http://www.chasepb.com . Some proshops sell repair kits- these come with a new ratchet, plunger, axle, and bottom plate.
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On the CAR stock - even stocks without velocity adjusters can mess with your gun, if they replace the endcap.  The stock may not be putting enough pressure on the drive spring, so the valve doesn't open enough to properly drive the Cyclone, while still letting the gun shoot (barely).  Take the stock off and see if that helps.
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I dont think I would need new parts now... I mean that was the second time I used the marker.  I got it for x-mas and played at a nearby forest with a friend.  Then went there for opening day, and then that happened.

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with a low tank or gas restriction (frozen gun, happens easy on full auto) the cyclone will not function long before you run out of gas enough for the gun to 'burp'. that is common.
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