nothing to do with guns BUT fogging up

TRY BREATHING THROUGH YOUR NOSE CALMLY AND SPRAY YOUR MASK AGAIN.  IF THERES STILL A PROB THEN GET A MASK W/ THERMAL LENS.

If you have a JT mask I suggest just buying the JT Vortex Fan. I know other companies have fans too, but I know & trust JT and stand by Brand Loyalty. It just "plugs into" the top of the mask and can be used with a visor. I know they fit with the J/T Proteus masks (spectra goggles) & the J/T X-Fire masks / elite goggles (even with the elite visor on) so I'm sure it will fit whichever J/T thermal mask you already have.

I, like you, used to have major problems with fogging. The thermal lens helps a little, but the fan is a god-send. I do not have it on constantly and I will admit that there are inconsistencies since some are quieter than others. But they keep me fog free and I'm a fairly big guy with healthy sweat glands.

duffer1497 wrote: ive tried no fog spray it work a little i bought a thermal lens that works for about 15-20 min but i find myself half way through a match praying for a good breeze can i get a universal fan that will work or should i buy yet another mask?

I wear JT goggles with a thermal lens but with glasses underneath. Tried several anti-fog chemicals and though the goggle lens stayed fog free, my glasses would fog...actually that is incorrect, the anti-fog chemicals would prevent the formation of the fog haze, but the moisture still condenses and eventually forms large enough droplets to distort my vision. My son also wears a JT mask but a different model. I eventually went searching for a fan. I found two slightly different models on Ebay and bought one of each...one cost $12 and the other $15...normally nearly $50 retail. I lucked out in that one fit my goggles and the other fit my son's. (Sorry, I cannot remember which models of goggles we have)

At first, installed per instructions, the fans didn't work worth a darn. After some experimentation I altered the goggle frames. I covered the top of the perforated ventilation area with duct tape and cut a hole in the top that lined up with with the fan blade. The duct tape prevented air from leaking allowing the air from the fan, whether pushing or pulling, to sweep across the back of the goggle lens, and my glasses. I couldn't have asked for the fan to do a better job of keeping my glasses fog free...in both cold and hot temperatures.

Biggest problem is forgetting to turn off the fan after each play day. The fan uses one triple A battery and will last two or three play days (about 30 continuous hours). I now change the battery before every play day. The fan is a bit noisy but I got used to it quickly. Our regular field has landing airplanes flying overhead all the time. I can't even hear the fan most of the time. $39 to $50 for a fan is too much. less than $20 is well worth it.