a-5 stuttering...omg

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   anywhoo, I have an a-5, flatline system, and e-grip. These parts worked well untill a few hours after playing... I was playing up in a tower and I was shooting as fast as I can, my gun was on full auto, and every 30 or so shots it would shoot, dryfire, and shoot. 1 every 30 shots. I ran outta co2 by the end of the game so I needed to get something bigger than a 9 ounce, so I buy a 20, java tank, I had been using a pure energy tank, but when I played a speed ball field after the purchase my gun would shoot, then very quickly, automaticly it would shoot 5-7 shots of big c02 clouds and nothing would come out, I was full on paint and had just recently filled the 20 ounce. The problem has persisted ever sence and I have been forced to use my stock 98 from there on out. I have taken it to multiple 'air smiths' and they say it is a problem in the e-grip and they cant fix it beacause they arn't 'electricians' wich I think is bull **** sence alot of guns are electronic. any help?

btw I bought this gun second hand so I dont have a warranty, the gun worked fine for hours then it screwed up.

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matrix10657 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Member Joined: 11 August 2005 Status: Offline Points: 8	Post Options Post Reply Quote matrix10657 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: a-5 stuttering...omg Posted: 12 August 2005 at 5:35pm
	anywhoo, I have an a-5, flatline system, and e-grip. These parts worked well untill a few hours after playing... I was playing up in a tower and I was shooting as fast as I can, my gun was on full auto, and every 30 or so shots it would shoot, dryfire, and shoot. 1 every 30 shots. I ran outta co2 by the end of the game so I needed to get something bigger than a 9 ounce, so I buy a 20, java tank, I had been using a pure energy tank, but when I played a speed ball field after the purchase my gun would shoot, then very quickly, automaticly it would shoot 5-7 shots of big c02 clouds and nothing would come out, I was full on paint and had just recently filled the 20 ounce. The problem has persisted ever sence and I have been forced to use my stock 98 from there on out. I have taken it to multiple 'air smiths' and they say it is a problem in the e-grip and they cant fix it beacause they arn't 'electricians' wich I think is bull **** sence alot of guns are electronic. any help? btw I bought this gun second hand so I dont have a warranty, the gun worked fine for hours then it screwed up.

solxion Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Member Joined: 06 March 2003 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 66	Post Options Post Reply Quote solxion Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 12 August 2005 at 8:33pm
	sounds like liquid co2 getting in marker,freezing up the works.clean and relube your marker.a remote to an upright tank is one countermeasure you can employ.do a search for anti siphon or anti-siphon through this site.
	98c/rt,12" j&j pro-1,java coiled remote to 20 oz,eggy II,spee-t-cocker,ghetto fab stock(homebrew),pgp2k1.

drumlinefreek Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Member Joined: 27 June 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 92	Post Options Post Reply Quote drumlinefreek Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 12 August 2005 at 8:34pm
	are all of your o rings intact?
	A-5 J&J 14" Double trig Outkast Sniper II- rolling with the pump world

matrix10657 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Member Joined: 11 August 2005 Status: Offline Points: 8	Post Options Post Reply Quote matrix10657 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 12 August 2005 at 9:30pm
	I dont know, which are all the ones I should look for? btw I know c02 isnt freezing beacause that happened a couple months ago, and I went to a friends pb b-day and my gun still did the same thing when I took it outta its case Edited by matrix10657

drumlinefreek Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Member Joined: 27 June 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 92	Post Options Post Reply Quote drumlinefreek Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 12 August 2005 at 9:38pm
	Check all of them, especially those in the valve, my gun did a similar thing, and the o ring was out of place. Another idea; have you taken it completely apart recently, because if you have, you may have put a piece in incorrectly, which is really easy to do. It sounds almost like your ball detent is in backwards....
	A-5 J&J 14" Double trig Outkast Sniper II- rolling with the pump world

matrix10657 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Member Joined: 11 August 2005 Status: Offline Points: 8	Post Options Post Reply Quote matrix10657 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 12 August 2005 at 10:18pm
	well after looking at a diagram I am kinda thinking that my rear bolt o-ring might be shrunk, or expanded, or outtaplace, or broken cause if they're isnt enough co2 hitting the bolt once its released by the sear im thinking it dosnt blow back far enough to get caught by the sear and the spring that comes from the thing in the back keeps pushing it back and makes it fire some more c02 what do u think? also where can I get a replacement oring, and how should the rear o ring fit. Size? what kinda oil should I use in it...

drumlinefreek Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Member Joined: 27 June 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 92	Post Options Post Reply Quote drumlinefreek Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 12 August 2005 at 10:27pm
	Best to get a tippmann A-5 o ring pack, you should be able to find a pack in just about any store that sells paintball stuff. Just about any kind of oil is ok to use. Best of luck
	A-5 J&J 14" Double trig Outkast Sniper II- rolling with the pump world

solxion Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Member Joined: 06 March 2003 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 66	Post Options Post Reply Quote solxion Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 12 August 2005 at 10:57pm
	try a5og.net vet a5 users use only air tool or paintball oil(tippmann recomends hoppes #9).try countypaintball.com for o-ring kit
	98c/rt,12" j&j pro-1,java coiled remote to 20 oz,eggy II,spee-t-cocker,ghetto fab stock(homebrew),pgp2k1.

paintdad Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Member Joined: 04 July 2002 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 178	Post Options Post Reply Quote paintdad Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 15 August 2005 at 10:21am
	I had the problem of my A-5 stuttering after a couple of shots. It turned out the spring that holds the sear in place had weakened and wasn't holding the sear firmly enough to catch the bolt when it came back. All I had to do was stretch out that spring a little bit. I stopped by the Tippmann trailor at last year's TWC and got a new spring for it but I haven't had to ues it. Whenever I take the gun apart for a cleaning I stretch the spring out again and I haven't had any trouble with it since. You might want to try that before you go replacing o-rings and stuff.
	No need to point out the perfectly obvious, the merely obvious will do.

abr5 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Member Joined: 28 June 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 34	Post Options Post Reply Quote abr5 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 15 August 2005 at 2:15pm
	same happened to me, the stuttering, but after the stuttering, my gun wouldnt recock. it was the rear bolt o ring, and it was stretched. also, my gun needed lube
	upped a-5

bullseye9 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Member Joined: 29 April 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 234	Post Options Post Reply Quote bullseye9 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 18 August 2005 at 9:32pm
	Tippmann Has upgraded the sear pin. Instead of an oval hole in the sear there is now just a round hole. That fixed mine.. Call Tippmann 10 to 1 they send out an updated sear. Goodluck
	Tippmann A-5 E-Grip JCS DUAL Trigger 14" J&J ceramic 68/4500 bullet drop macro line polished internals LPK The damage done to a man should be such that there is no fear of revenge!!!

hired_gun Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Member Joined: 17 August 2005 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 29	Post Options Post Reply Quote hired_gun Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 21 August 2005 at 3:38pm
	they updated my sear, sear spring and reset pin...no charge...that was the problem. I also changed the ratchet in the cyclone wich has been know to cuase this as well. Edited by hired_gun