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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 November 2007 at 11:05pm
From the BATFE (ATF) website press-releases:

"United States Attorney for the District of Maryland Rod J. Rosenstein announces that today U.S. District Judge Alexander Williams, Jr. sentenced Arthur Wayne Clemmer, age 57, of Silver Spring, Maryland to 10 years in prison followed by 3 years of supervised release for the unlawful possession of a silencer."

"United States Attorney Matthew D. Orwig announced today that a 23-year-old Dayton man has been sentenced to 30 months in federal prison for firearms violations in the Eastern District of Texas. ZACHARY MICHAEL JAMES WHITTAKER was sentenced today by United States District Judge Marcia Crone.
U.S. Attorney Orwig was pleased with the sentence, “There can be absolutely no valid reason for anyone to have an unregistered silencer. This is a serious violation that will be aggressively prosecuted.”
According to information presented in court, Whittaker designed, constructed and possessed a firearm silencer at his father’s gun shop in Dayton on January 22, 2004. The silencer was constructed of PVC pipe, metal washers and cloth and was not registered pursuant to the National Firearms Registration and Transfer Act. Whittaker was indicted on April 16, 2005 and pleaded guilty on March 22, 2006."

Now, before you go saying, "Those were fire-arms silencers" read the following report and ruling by the BATFE located here: ruling

It is indeed illegal to make any type of device which diminishes the sound produced by a fire-arm without procuring permission from the BATFE and paying the applicable licensing fees and taxes.

Here you go, make sure to read the whole thing:
Quote ATF Rul. 2005-4
The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) has received
requests from manufacturers of paintball guns for evaluation and classification of
integral devices intended to diminish the report of a paintball gun. Specifically, the
manufacturers have asked whether the device would be considered a “silencer” as
defined in the Gun Control Act of 1968 (GCA), 18 U.S.C. Chapter 44, and the
National Firearms Act (NFA), 26 U.S.C. Chapter 53.
The sample submitted is a paintball gun with a ported device attached to the
barrel. The paintball gun uses compressed air to expel a projectile. The paintball
gun has a barrel with a smooth bore 12 1/4 inches long and 1 inch in diameter.
The barrel is permanently welded to the paintball gun. The section of the barrel
that the device is attached to has an internal diameter of .68 inches and is ported
with 20 openings. Ten of the openings are rectangular in shape and are
approximately .430 inches wide and 1 inch in length. The other 10 openings are
oval in shape and approximately .25 inches wide and 1 inch in length. Two end
caps, each with a diameter of 1.5 inches, are permanently welded to the barrel at
either end of the ported section of the barrel. A section of plastic tube
approximately 8 inches in length and 2 inches in diameter covers the ported
section of the barrel. It is attached by sliding over the paintball gun barrel and is
held in place by two rubber “O” rings that are affixed to metal bushings. These
metal bushings are permanently welded to the barrel, one toward the rear and one
at the muzzle end of the barrel. The plastic tube, however, can be removed.
To determine whether the ported barrel and outer sleeve would function as a
silencer, it was removed by cutting with a hack saw. A threaded adaptor with tape
wrapped around it was utilized so the device could be attached to a .22 caliber
Ruger Mark II pistol. With the device attached, a sound meter test was performed,
with five shots being fired with the device attached and five shots fired without the
device attached. The testing indicated that the attachment of the device resulted
in a 7.98-decibel sound reduction.
The GCA defines the term “firearm” as:
(A) any weapon (including a starter gun) which will or is designed to or may readily
be converted to expel a projectile by the action of an explosive; (B) the frame or
receiver of any such weapon; (C) any firearm muffler or firearm silencer; or (D) any
destructive device. Such term does not include an antique firearm.
18 U.S.C. 921(a)(3)(C).
The definition of “firearm silencer” and “firearm muffler” in 18 U.S.C. 921(a)(24)
provides as follows:
The terms “firearm silencer” and “firearm muffler” mean any device for silencing,
muffling, or diminishing the report of a portable firearm, including any combination
of parts, designed or redesigned, and intended for use in assembling or fabricating
a firearm silencer or firearm muffler, and any part intended only for use in such
assembly or fabrication.
The NFA defines the term “firearm” to include any silencer as defined in section
921 of the GCA. 26 U.S.C. 5845(a)(7).
The term “make” is defined in the NFA to include manufacturing, putting together,
altering, any combination of these, or otherwise producing a firearm. 26 U.S.C.
5845(i).
The paintball gun examined by ATF is not a “firearm” as defined, because it does
not, is not designed to, and may not be readily converted to expel a projectile by
the action of an explosive and does not utilize the frame or receiver of a firearm.
The sole issue presented is whether the ported barrel and outer sleeve are a
firearm muffler or firearm silencer as defined in the GCA and NFA.
The design characteristics of the ported barrel and outer sleeve are similar to
those of conventional commercial silencers. The barrel is ported to allow the
escape of gases from a fired round and the outer sleeve dampens or muffles the
sound when a round is fired. Moreover, the sound meter test indicates a reduction
of 7.98 decibels when the ported barrel and sleeve were attached to a .22 caliber
pistol, which is consistent with the sound reduction resulting from the use of
commercial silencers.
Noteworthy, the definition of “firearm silencer” and “firearm muffler” requires that
the device be one for diminishing the report of a portable firearm. The device
under consideration is permanently attached to and an integral part of a paintball
gun, which is not a firearm as defined in the GCA or NFA. The device cannot be
removed from the paintball gun without destroying the barrel and rendering the
paintball gun unusable. Under these circumstances, the integral device is not a
firearm muffler or firearm silencer.
However, once the device is cut from the paintball gun, it can be used to diminish
the report of a firearm. As stated previously, the design characteristics of the
device are consistent with those of commercial silencers, and testing indicates that
the device functions to reduce the report of the firearm. Moreover, removal of the
device from the paintball gun indicates some intention to utilize the device for
something other than reducing the report of the paintball gun. Because the device
will no longer be permanently attached to an unregulated item, and because of its
silencer design characteristics, removal will result in the making of a silencer under
the NFA and GCA. This is consistent with the definition of “make” in the NFA, as
removal of the device results in production of a silencer.
Making of a silencer by an unlicensed person for personal use does not require
any license or notification to ATF under the GCA. However, under the NFA the
making of a silencer must be approved in advance by ATF. Unlicensed persons
must file an ATF Form 1, Application to Make a Firearm, pay a $200 making tax,
and comply with all other provisions of the law prior to making the firearm.
Approval of the Form 1 results in registration of the silencer to the maker.
Subsequent transfers of the registered silencer must be approved in advance by
ATF. Possession of a silencer not registered to the possessor, and a making or
transfer that does not comply with the NFA and regulations are punishable by
imprisonment for up to 10 years, a fine of $250,000, or both.
Held, a device for an unregulated paintball gun, having a permanently
affixed, integral ported barrel and other components, that functions to reduce the
report of the paintball gun is not a “firearm silencer” or “firearm muffler” as defined,
as the device is not one for diminishing the report of a portable firearm.
Held further, removal of the permanently affixed ported barrel and other
components from a paintball gun is a “making” of a silencer under the GCA and
NFA that requires advance approval from ATF.
Date approved: October 12, 2005
Signed by:
Carl J. Truscott
Director


If you can't read it, PM Evil Elvis (he's a moderator) he's from PR as well and can translate for you. What you have done is fully illegal under the NFA.

Thank you and have a nice day.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 November 2007 at 11:07pm
All FEDERAL LAWS apply in Puerto Rico the same as in any other territory or state. At a paintball shop you can buy a fake suppressor, not a real silencer. There are no companies that manufacture paintball silencers because they are ILLEGAL. Everytime a company that manufactures a paintball suppressor comes around they are quickly shut down by the ATF.

You are misinformed at best with your law and should probably study up on your law before coming in here acting like you know when you honestly don't. The fact of the matter is, silencers are illegal to possess or make. Period. Since it illegal, you cannot talk about owning or making one on this forum. Also now that the fact that your ownership of an illegal item is now in the public domain(the internet) you are subject to investigation. I would get rid of the illegal item(s) if you do not want to go to jail for a long time.

As for your marker it is not a pistol or a rifle as neither term applies correctly in this situation. That M82A1 setup look pretty decent but seems to be more for looks than for functional use. How you would run or conduct fire and maneuver with that I don't know. Basically worthless on the field. The other one looks stock so it needs some improvement.

EDIT: There are no snipers in paintball. It is physically impossible to  be a  sniper in paintball. The laws of physics do not allow it.

Do you shoot from beyond the effective range of return fire?
Do you fire a single shot without being detected?
Do you egress a target area without being detected or effectively engaged?
Do you calculate windage and elevation when taking shots?
Is your weapon precision tuned for accuracy and long range shooting?

If you answered no to any of these questions then you are not a sniper.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 November 2007 at 11:15pm
yes i know but thats the gun that have the problem
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 November 2007 at 11:17pm
from the BATFE:

Quote Puerto Rico Commonwealth Law
Laws of PR Ann.
Title 24; Chapter 111. Controlled
Substances Act of Puerto Rico
...
420. Possession or sale of silencer. Any person who has in his possession,
sells, or keeps for sale, loans, offers, gives or disposes of any instrument,
attachment, weapon or appliance, for causing the firing of any firearm to be
silent or intended to lessen or muffle the noise of the firing of any firearm,
shall be guilty of a felony. The provisions of this section shall not
apply to the members of the Police of Puerto Rico or the National Guard, nor
to the members of the armed forces of the United States.
...


I quoted out the part of the text that relates to you. Again, Puerto-Rico = US Territory = Under US Jurisdiction = Illegal for you to even MAKE or OWN a silencer, you can't even get one if you had the money to pay the transfer tax! Jesus kid, you don't even know your own laws.

Kid, Can you take the silencer off the paintball marker? IF YES, then it could reasonably be attached to a firearm thus making it illegal under the BATFE Ruling 2005-4. It doesn't matter what you intend to do with it. What matters is that it is a muffling device that could potentially be attached to a real firearm. You're looking at serious fines and/or jail time.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 November 2007 at 11:23pm
I will post up an old post I wrote up years ago on the subject of snipers in paintball as it hasn't seen the light of day in forever.

Originally posted by Snake6 Snake6 wrote:


The History of Military Sniping, and how it relates to the Game of Paintball.

Ok. So I got bored, and I am sick and tried of this stupid sniper debate. I got a Barnes and Noble gift card for Christmas, and didn’t know what else to get so I picked up several books on Military Snipers. Here are my findings.

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First lets go over the basics of what a sniper is, and what a sniper is not.

“A sniper…is considered a specialist, whose prime function is to kill selected high value targets at long range using superior skill and armament. A sharpshooter, by contrast, is a rifleman (proficient or otherwise) who acts in an opportunist manner, taking shots at the enemy when the chance arises”

From SNIPER by Adrian Gilbert

Keep this in your mind as you read the rest of the article.

The American Revolution (1775-83)

Sniping first came onto the battlefield during the American Revolution. Standard infantry of this period were equipped with “Brown Bess” smoothbore muskets. The Continental Congress approves 10 independent companies, armed with long rifles. The men of these companies were the first snipers.

Comparison between the “Brown Bess” musket, and the Long Rifle.

“A soldiers musket, if not exceedingly ill bored (as many are), will strike the figure of a man at 80 yards: it may even at 100, but a soldier must be very unfortunate indeed who shall be wounded by a common musket at 150 yards, provided that the antagonist aims at him; as to firing at a man at 200 yards, with a common, musket, you might as well fire at the moon.” –British Major Hanger, on the “Brown Bess” musket

 In contrast, the American Long Rifle (as carried by the Irregular companies), was effective in ranges up to 300 yards, and headshots could be achieved at 200. At these ranges American Snipers picked-off high ranking British Officers. During the battle of Saratoga an American sniper brought down British General Simon Frasier from a range of 300 yards. Despite its advantages the long rifle had several disadvantages. Its slow reload time(2 shots a minute), and lack of bayonet fixture made it useful only as a skirmisher weapon, not for use as a standard infantry weapon.

 

Brown Bess

Long Rifle

Range:

80 Yards

300 Yards

Muzzle Velocity:

1100-1300 fps

 ~1600fps

Ammunition:

.75 caliber ball

.40-.70 caliber ball

 

As you can see from the table, the Rifle outranged the common muskets of the time by over 200 yards. Also the muzzle velocity of the Rifle was much higher than that of the Brown Bess.

The War of Northern Aggression (American Civil War) (1861-65)

During the Civil War, the standard infantry rifles were the Enfield(for the south), and the Springfield(for the north). These were muzzleloading rifles with effective ranges up to 500 yards. The confederacy managed to acquire Witworth and Kerr rifles from Europe for their snipers. These rifles had an effective range of well over 1200 yards, and hits were reported at over 1500 yards.

Confederate Snipers were selected in a manner which has been used to select snipers in most present wars. The best men from each infantry regiment entered into shooting competitions. They were required to hit man-sized boards at 500 yards. The best shooters were given the prized Kerr and Witworth rifles. They then went through extensive training in the use of these rifles.

The snipers were warned never to get within 400 yards of the enemy, but to use their superior range, to keep the enemy at a safe distance.

 

Springfield/Enfield

Kerr & Withworth

Range:

 1200+ yards

500 Yards

Muzzle Velocity:

 

 

Ammunition:

.451 Hexagonal Slug

 

 

World War I (1914-18)

US Snipers during World War I used modified, and accurized versions of  the standard service rifle the Springfield 1903, equipped with 2 to 4 power scopes. Snipers during the war mostly sniped from behind the MLR, the main trench line. These snipers were Infantrymen taken off the line, and equipped with scoped rifles. With their rifles they could pick the enemy off 3 or 4 trench lines back from the MLR. The marksmanship standard for infantry of the time was to be able to hit a standing man from around 100 yards. The snipers were trained to hit targets from over 500 yards.

World War II (1938-45)

World War II snipers were selected in different manners during the war. I will concentrate on the Marine Corps Snipers trained at Green’s Farm because the documentation of this school and its snipers is the best. There, snipers were instructed in 5 week courses in marksmanship, camouflage, and field craft. They were trained to approach a target using stealth and to eliminate the target from long distances. These snipers were required to hit a moving target at 500 yards, and to hit a stationary target at 1000. They were equipped much the same way as snipers in WWI  were. These snipers used accurized  versions of the M1903 Springfield service rifle, the A1 or A3 variants equipped with 2 or 4 power scopes. Marine Infantry qualified at 500 yards.

 

M1 Garand

M1903A3

Range

500 yards

1000yards

Ammunition

.30-06

.30-06

Korea (1950-53)

Korea, in the latter part of the war turned into a bogged down war of attrition, looking somewhat like the trench warfare of WWI. This, alongside Korea’s terrain of rolling hills combined to make it prime sniper territory. Sniping tactics in Korea did not change much from the tactics of WWII so I will not elaborate on them. The rifles also remained the same. Snipers in Korea were equipped with 1903A3 Variant Springfield’s, and National Match M1’s(which were used in competition shooting because they were more accurate than the standard M1) Equipped with 4 power scopes(the M1D model). The accuracy of the M1 was not as good as that of the Springfield, due to the need to offset the scope, and have major Eye Relief built-in to the rifle due to the Clip Feed of the M1. These M1’s still were able to reach ranges of 500 yards accurately. In Korea the use of the .50 caliber round for sniping was first seen. M2 Machine Guns mounted with a 10 power scope were able to reach ranges of 2800 yards effectively, Snipers also experimented with .55 Caliber Boy’s antitank rifles modified to take .50 caliber rounds, and mounted with scopes which had the same range as the M2, but was able to be carried by a man whereas the M2’s were limited to fixed positions.

 

M1D Sniper Model

M1903A3 Sniper

M2 Machine Gun

Range

500 yards

1000 yards

2500 yards

Ammunition

.30-06

.30-06

.50 Caliber

 

Vietnam (1965-75)

Vietnam is the perfect example of how a sniper can be employed during combat. The restrictive ROE and vast open fields and rice paddy’s of Vietnam became prime sniper territory. The Marine Corps and the Army both Fielded Snipers. Army snipers were equipped with accurized versions of the M14 service rifle, accurate out to 700 yards. The Marine Corps fielded snipers equipped with Winchester Model 70 Hunting rifles firing the .30-06 cartridge, and later in the war snipers carried the M40, which fired the standard 7.62x51mm(.308) cartridge both of these rifles had an effective range of over 1000 yards. Also snipers used modified M2 .50 caliber machine guns, fitted with scopes. These were accurate to ranges out to 2500 yards. Normal infantry of the time fired the M16 Assault Rifle, and the enemy fired the AK-47 assault rifle. These rifles were designed for infantry combat which takes place in ranges of only around 200 yards, and can only be fired accurately up to 500 yards. Thus snipers were able to operate with impunity from beyond the range of effective return fire of the enemy.

 

M16

Winchester 70

M40

M14 Sniper

Range

500 yards

1000 yards

1000 Yards

700 yards

Ammunition

5.56mm

.30-06

7.62x51mm

7.62x51mm

 

 

 

 

 

Now through all these wars several things have remained in common among snipers, lets analyze these facts:

A sniper acts independently from standard infantry, not as a part of a unit but in a one or two man team.

This is possible in paintball, most of the time in scenario games, I am alone behind enemy lines trying to accomplish a mission. But you do very little if any tactical good for your team waiting in one spot for an entire game, hoping a target of high-value (such as the opposing general) walks by.

A sniper does not act at random, he selects targets of high value and eliminates them.

Targets of High Value in a military sense are:

  1. Officers:
    • Generals
    • Field Grade officers
    • Company Grade officers
  2. Forward Observers
  3. Crew Served Weaponry:
    • Heavy Machine Guns
    • Artillery Batteries
    • Mortar Crews
  4. Non Commissioned Officers
  5. Radiomen

Targets of High Value in Paintball:

  1. Generals
  2. Tank Crewman (if there are tanks)
  3. Um…. Yeah… that’s all I can think of...

The problem with selecting high value targets in a scenario paintball game is, there are very few. The vast majority of players play independently, not under any command and they do what they want. What officers and team captains there are do not look any different than any other players.

The Sniper fires at targets from beyond the range of return fire by the standard infantry weapons, or from distances that were beyond the training of the normal infantryman.

As you can see from the diagrams of the Sniper Rifles of the Period in comparison to the standard issue infantry weapons, the sniper rifle always has a great deal more range than infantry weapons, and the sniper has been trained to an accuracy standard that is beyond that of standard infantry training.

This is where sniping in paintball fails. All paintball markers except those equipped with the Flatline or Apex systems fire the same distance, around 25 yards or 75 feet. The Flatline will reach ranges of up to 150 ft, but because the ball loses velocity at the same rate as a normal paintball, the chances of getting a break, or a single accurate shot at those ranges are close to zero.

The sniper uses a single accurate shot to take his targets down.

The ammunition expended to kill ratio of a sniper in Vietnam was 1.7 rounds per kill. The average infantryman expended 50,000 rounds per confirmed kill.

It is possible to take targets down with a single shot in paintball. However it is near impossible to eliminate a target with a single shot from beyond the effective range of return fire by the enemy.

A sniper uses camouflage and concealment to hide himself from his enemies to eliminate his targets.

No qualms with this, it can be done. Most every scenario paintball player does it. Using camouflage doe not make you sniper.

 

 

Now as you can see there are several places where sniping fails in paintball. Now look at the definition of a Sharpshooter:

“A sharpshooter… is a rifleman (proficient or otherwise) who acts in an opportunist manner, taking shots at the enemy when the chance arises”

From SNIPER by Adrian Gilbert

Ok, this looks a little more feasible in the game of paintball than the sniper definition doesn’t it?

For paintball purposes we can strike rifleman, because there are no rifles in paintball.

“who acts in an opportunist manner, taking shots at the enemy when the chance arises”

This sounds feasible. The definition of a sniper that Spec Ops puts forth is one of an “ambush player” that fires from concealment, using camouflage. The problem with the Spec Ops definition of a sniper is that it perfectly describes the definition of a sharpshooter in a military sense.

So we will set forth the definition of a Sharpshooter in paintball. This is what most of you would call a Sniper in paintball.

A sharpshooter takes shots from concealment, shoots at targets as the opportunity arises, and uses a marker that has the same range as everyone else’s. This is not a Sniper. This is a sharpshooter. You will never be a sniper in paintball simple ballistics prevent this from ever happening.

The fact of the matter is if you think you are a sniper in paintball, your terminology is wrong. The definition of a sharpshooter, fits paintball a lot closer that the definition of a sniper. But for those of you who insist that you are still snipers, look at an analogy: You work for a living. Your job is to go to people’s houses and businesses, to pick up their trash and take it to the dump. You drive a Garbage Truck. What would you be called, a Garbage Man, or a Professional Truck Driver?

You would be called a Garbage Man, would you not? As much as you would prefer to be called a Professional Truck Driver, everyone would call you a Garbage Man because it fits what you are doing better than the title Professional Truck Driver does.

 

The definition of Sharpshooter, or a Designated Marksman fits what you are doing in paintball a whole lot better than Sniper does. Stop fooling yourself.

 

References:

 

SNIPER- Adrian Gilbert

One Shot-One Kill- Charles W. Sasser and Craig Roberts

Marine Sniper- Charles Henderson

 

Authors Note: In my haste of writing this, I may have gotten some minor facts mixed up, or in the wrong place. Please contact me with the correct info if you have something to add, or a correction.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 November 2007 at 11:32pm
Originally posted by Lost_Shadow Lost_Shadow wrote:

http://rap4.com/paintball/os/socom-silencer-p-1349.html


Whats your point?

Its says right in the item description:

Originally posted by Item Description Item Description wrote:


his is a replacement muzzle for the stock orange muzzle. It is designed to be used for theatrical purposes only.

The Socom Silencer works with any barrels that is smaller than 1" in diameter.
Works best with T68 16" barrel, all SB rifled barrels and Tippmann A5 stock barrels.

The Socom Silencer also fits all T16, RAP4 and RAP5 systems.

The socom silencer is made out 100% metal, it is solid. The silencer is made for looks and intimidation only, it is not made to reduce noise


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 November 2007 at 11:32pm
From the link you provided:

Quote The socom silencer is made out 100% metal, it is solid. The silencer is made for looks and intimidation only, it is not made to reduce noise.


Thus, it is not a silencer, just a piece of metal to make it look "cool."


So, here's my question to you kid, does your "Silencer" actually make the paintball gun quieter when you shoot it?

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Beat you to it tallen.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 November 2007 at 11:35pm
just like mine its 100% metal and jus silenced my gun just like the socom silencer just buy it

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Snake6 Read this all ok
http://www.specialopspaintball.com/articles/snipertech.asp
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 November 2007 at 11:42pm
By putting foam into it you have modified it into a illegal silencer. This 100% illegal and you have committed a felony offense. Since you have posted methods for making illegal items, this thread must be closed now. If you would have read the forum rule you would know this is acceptable behavior. Don't be surprised if your account gets guested. 
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Originally posted by Lost_Shadow Lost_Shadow wrote:

Snake6 Read this all ok
http://www.specialopspaintball.com/articles/snipertech.asp


What is your point?

Anything from SpecOps is not credible or notable . If you knew anything about the paintball world you would know this by now. SpecOps is trying to sell a product and uses these so called "guides" to market their products to people like you who know no better and take them for fact. As a subject matter expert I know that what is described a sniper by specops is just another player, and a marketing ploy. I think it is time for you to stop posting for a while, read up on your facts and to come back when you have a valid argument, not some specops fanboy copy and paste. Give your own reasons why you think snipers exist then I will disprove them. I don't feel like disproving an article that is nothing but product placement.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 November 2007 at 11:53pm
because im one just come to pr and ask The A team or SRTT team and you will know jajajaj

Edited by Lost_Shadow - 05 November 2007 at 11:54pm
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Huh? Speak English.
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IM Sniper ok just come here to PR and play whit us and learn

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 November 2007 at 11:59pm
Just come?

I am assuming you mean just come on? No, you have not presented any credible evidence to the effect that you can somehow snipe in paintball. I will not "just come" until you present some sort of evidence that you are  a sniper. Until then go away and wait for the ATF.
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