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    Posted: 09 March 2015 at 12:15pm
Hello, I have a tippman A5 with response trigger.  I am curious as to which shroud(s) I could use with this?  I was trying to purchase a G36 shroud and the seller told me that it will not work with a response trigger.

Any help is much appreciated.  I'd most likely be buying from Amazon but any other reasonably priced website with correct shrouds that will fit will be greatly appreciated!  

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What particular company's shroud were you looking at?

I know that a lot of them aren't compatible with the R/T due to the fact that they fit too tightly to allow the banjo fittings and takeoff hoses to fit under the shroud itself. I have seen people do it though.


You could always carefully cut the shroud to accommodate the line and fittings, but you run the risk of messing up a pretty costly investment.
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Any links to any shrouds that fit a response trigger would be appreciated.  Or any kind of help choosing what I can do to my gun.  Haha.

I am a noobie at this and have only owned the gun for a couple months.  Yet I want to upgrade it and get it ready for the season.  Would it be better if I just get a barrel shroud and a rail for the top of the gun?  As for the manufacturer I have no preferences as long as it's not cheaply made.  I rather not invest in something and have it break shortly afterwards from playing. 
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I couldn't find any links to any G36 shrouds that say they will work with the R/T, so a rail and barrel shroud may be the way to go cosmetically.

As for upgrades, there are a ton that are going to make your A5 perform even better. That's traditionally where I've always spent my money in the world of paintball (especially on highly customizable markers like the 98c and Autocockers)

Is this a new model A5 (2011 or newer) or an older model. I'm assuming it's the newer one.

Tippmannparts.com has always been a good source of upgrades for all Tippmann markers. They have a wide range of body kits for the A5 as well. I know the Killhouse brand G36 shroud by them won't fit with the R/T system, however they have some really nice looking Trinity kits for sale that look like they wouldn't interfere with the banjo fittings and LP lines for the R/T.

As for performance upgrades, there are ways to make the cyclone more efficient and quicker feeding while being more gentle on the paintballs themselves. There are different hoppers that offset to the side to allow the use of optics and the like, expansion chambers, etc. etc. You can find a lot of them listed here: link.

I'm not an A5 user myself, but guys like Mack can give you even more advice if you want it. I hope this helps!
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I am speaking to a representative from Tippmann's website and they are saying no kits should have problems with r/t's!  haha.  I'll end up buying one and it won't fit.. 
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Yeah, I'd just stay away from the Killhouse brand because they specifically say it won't fit the R/T (unless you want to modify it). Good luck!
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Originally posted by tallen702 tallen702 wrote:

Yeah, I'd just stay away from the Killhouse brand because they specifically say it won't fit the R/T (unless you want to modify it). Good luck!

The lady I spoke with said that she talked to a technician and he said there will be no problems with the G36 body kit (killhouse).  She said if any problem occurs that I can just call and complain... jesus.  lol

I really want a G36 body and was about to purchase it just to test it.  If you're saying that the company says it won't fit with r/t then I will believe you and just not buy it.

I guess I'll go with a barrel shroud / rail combo instead then.. Hopefully it looks good!  Any recommendations would be appreciated. :)
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The picture I posted up earlier is a G36 from Killhouse, so obviously, they can be made to work, I simply don't know what's involved though. Amazon has a pretty liberal return policy, so you may be able to order one from there, test it without doing anything other than loosely fitting it, and if it doesn't work, you can probably send it back.
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What barrel would you suggest with the G36 body kit?  I was looking at an apex.  I want something that looks great with the style but also has accuracy / range.  I'll be playing woodsball.
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/ALL-METAL-G36-BODY-KIT-FOR-TIPPMANN-A-5-/231491378241?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item35e5f61c41

That's the body kit I am going to buy once he replies to my question about a r/t.  What barrel would be a nice fit?
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The Apex is a pretty cool barrel the forum member "FreeEnterprise" likes using the apex for a lot of trick and distance shots with good results. My personal favorite barrel has always been the J&J ceramic. It's not going to give you any more range (no barrel other than the flatline or apex will do that) but it's accurate, economical, looks GREAT, and is self-cleaning if you have a ball break in the barrel (you essentially shoot it clean).
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Speaking of the Apex I was considering buying one but due to my shroud on my 98 custom I am unsure about if the 14" will fit or not. I know it comes in 14 or 18, but does a 14" measure 14" including the apex or is that the length of the barrel itself?
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Hmm.

I don't really want to use the features of the apex because I think it's not realistic to shoot around corners.   I just mainly wanted it for the apex part because it looks like a silencer and I hear good things about the range / accuracy.

http://www.amazon.com/BT-Paintball-14-APEX-Barrel/dp/B004DWWBRQ/ref=pd_sim_sg_6?ie=UTF8&refRID=13Y9Y2VTS3YP5VTVJASY

So would that suffice or should I be looking for a different brand name?
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Originally posted by jordanpischke jordanpischke wrote:

does a 14" measure 14" including the apex or is that the length of the barrel itself?


Don't quote me on this because I don't have one in front of me, but I believe it's a 10-3/4" bbl plus the length of the tip to bring it up to a total of 14". I could be wrong though. FE would know better than I.

Originally posted by DasBoochie DasBoochie wrote:

I don't really want to use the features of the apex because I think it's not realistic to shoot around corners.   I just mainly wanted it for the apex part because it looks like a silencer and I hear good things about the range / accuracy.
http://www.amazon.com/BT-Paintball-14-APEX-Barrel/dp/B004DWWBRQ/ref=pd_sim_sg_6?ie=UTF8&refRID=13Y9Y2VTS3YP5VTVJASY
So would that suffice or should I be looking for a different brand name?


That's the one. BT are the makers of the Apex.

As for the suppressor look, there are slip-over fake suppressors you can get for standard barrels that look even more like the real thing, but don't have the added functionality of the apex tip if you're looking to go the budget route.
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Sure!  I'd love to see a few options.  So they won't affect the accuracy of the barrel, would they?  If you could recommend a couple barrels and the fake suppressors that'd be great,  Are there any real suppressors that work?  haha, it may be a silly question.. but I have to ask.
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Also, what bore size should I go for?  The ansgear representative told me that a .685 is the size I'd want.
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Originally posted by DasBoochie DasBoochie wrote:

Also, what bore size should I go for?  The ansgear representative told me that a .685 is the size I'd want.


Bore size really depends on what pain you're going to be using most of the time. That's why people who play a lot, especially on the more competitive side of the sport, tend to go with barrel kits that allow them to change the bore diameter to fit the quality and size of paintball they are using at that time.

The thing to remember is that paint-to-barrel match is the number one thing that affects accuracy. Too tight, and you run the risk of breaks in the barrel and create undue drag and deformation of the ball which can cause it to act erratically up on exiting the barrel. Too much room, and you're wasting air and creating turbulence around the ball, which again leads to erratic behavior upon exiting the barrel which results in a loss of accuracy. You should be able to blow the paintball through the barrel with your own lungs. If it rolls through on it's own, it's too loose, if you can't blow it through, or it's extremely hard to do so, it's too tight.

Barrels are always a trade-off in paintball. If you want more range or curve/trick shots, you're going to lose the flexibility and consistent accuracy you get with inserts/kits. If you want the utmost accuracy, you're going to be stuck at the default range of everyone else.

Some people have combined the apex tip with other barrels to get the best of both worlds, but even then, it's a give an take.
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I spoke with another tippmann rep and he informed me the G36 body kit will NOT fit a r/t.. So I suppose I won't be getting the kit I wanted!  Sad day.. haha

Back to square one.. Which kit to get now.. :(
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http://www.ansgear.com/Custom_Products_CP_Tactical_Barrel_System_Dust_B_p/cptacticalbarrel.htm

Would this barrel be the best bang for the buck?  I'm thinking about buying a tip for it as well which is another $20.00.  So it'd be about $70.00 total.  Or would there be a better option with the same (or even better) cosmetic effects?
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Originally posted by tallen702 tallen702 wrote:



Bore size really depends on what pain you're going to be using most of the time . . . . 


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