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x7 phenom build from scratch Help

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    Posted: 04 May 2015 at 6:07pm
Would it be cheaper or similar Cost If i build x7 phenom by parts that i need.
At first Im thinking to buy an x7 phenom and mod it to mag fed(Rap 4 Tacamo MKP-II DMAG ) and replace the stock barrel adapter & barrel and other 3rd party parts that would make the gun batter 
than i start to wonder if it would be cheap if i just buy the parts of x7 phenom i need since the i wouldnt need the stock Middle parts are replacing it with Rap 4 Tacamo MKP-II DMAG and other stock parts. 
Can anyone give me an stock parts list that i need to order and would it be cheaper or same price ?
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I would have to price every piece however when you do the Tacamo mag-fed conversion you are basically replacing the clam shell so you will need all the internals PLUS the e-trigger. You may be actually better off just buying a ready to go mag-fed marker. I am not a big fan of RAP4 but look at their mag-feds, as well as Mil-Sig and don't forget the new mag-fed Tippmann TCR.
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for some reason i feel like the x7 is more well build and the parts are better than rap4.
is there an all internal parts kit sale on site ? 
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Your best bet would be to head over to Tippmannparts.com and go through them for internal parts. Their prices are better and they have all the diagrams you'd need to make sure you had the necessary parts.

To agree with the previous poster though, if I were going mag-fed, I'd go with the TCR from Tippmann vs building out an X7 in a Rap4 body.
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ANother thing that I did not mention was that last Christmas I decided to treat myself and purchased the Tacamo conversion kit with the Lok Bolt as recommended, as well as the Gen4 box mag. Purchased everything through RAP4 but the new mag-fed kit comes with D-mags and the mag-well for the D-mags will not accommodate the box mag so I was also forced to buy the original mag-well so I could use the box-mag.

Something that RAP4 should have mentioned at the beginning and they could have done the swap out with my having to purchase the additional legacy part.

Since I had the D-Mag kit first I followed the online video tutorial and swapped out the guts from my Phenom to make the new mag-fed. Very impressed with the look and feel. Fired off a few rounds on mechanical mode and had no issues, however when I put it on electronic mode, I noticed immediately that the trigger got stiff. Didn't pay it much mind however on auto I was getting jams and paint chops. The whole purpose of the Lok Bolt is to avoid chops but I was getting them, and everytime I got a jam I would have to pull the mag out, losing a few paintballs in the process to feed the mag back in.

When the new mag-well came in, I swapped out the D-mag well and attached the box mag. Same issue but worst. When there was a jam, I would need to take off the box mag, pull the feeder tube make sure everything was clear and then re-assemble. But the problem would come back again. Several calls to RAP4 I had no answer other than I needed to buy another part for a newly purchased item and they were selling it, not providing it.

I ended up sending everything  back and losing a re-stock fee which I could have fought but was too busy at the time.

Further investigation showed that this was an inherent problem with some, not all kits having to do with the mold casting. The Phenom is great and I love it, but if you are going mag fed, go with a mag-fed out of the box. IMHO Clap
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