Autococker Question?

Okay, so the first rule of Autocockers is that the word "Trilogy" anywhere in the name lessens it's value by about 75%. The main reason being that the integrated 4-way (3-way) switch makes fine tuning almost impossible due to the lack of certain points of adjustability. Not to mention the fact that buying a brand new autococker is about like buying a brand new Toyota Camry. You overpaid for what you got, and you won't get anything like what you paid for it if you try to sell it down the road.

In short, buy a '00+ USED autococker from e-bay or MCB for cheap and go from there.

I just typed in "Autococker Paintball Gun" into the e-bay search bar and got 5 pages of results. You can get an e-bladed sucker on there for less than $300 now. Anywho, the great thing about 'cockers is the sheer amount of modification that you can perform with a basic understanding of air-flow principles.

"Half-blocking" by the way, can mean one of several procedures, the first is cutting the front part of the body of the marker back to where the trigger frame ends. This does away with the ASA and forward valve chamber and integrates them into the front block. However, it also lessens the valve-chamber volume and thus, requires a high input-pressure to maintain velocity. You CAN add a volumizer to the front block to compensate for this, however, and achieve some good lp numbers, though not as much as you would with a full front valve chamber. The other term for half-blocking is the removal of large quantities of metal from the rear portion of the marker and replacing the traditional back-block with a "sled" that rides on top of the lower tube portion of the marker, or chopping both tubes to achieve a shorter rear-end over all. The removal of all this metal lightens the marker and can help improve cycling rates as well as shorten the rearward throw of the ram, which again improves cyclical rates. Again, there are drawbacks to this process. Chopping both tubes down means that you not only have to have specially made bolts and drive springs, but the main-spring strength is going to be increase dramatically to give the hammer enough inertial force to keep the valve open for the required time. This results in a stiffer feel to the marker rather than the more fluid motion that most autococker users are used to.

As for improving the marker, litterally EVERYTHING can be changed for some form of a operational advantage. 3-ways can be changed out to fine tune the re-cocking cycle, LPRs can be adjusted to set the speed and force with which the ram opens and closes the breach/re-cocks the marker (this can help eliminate chopping all together) Rams can be changed out for shorter/longer throws, and QEV's can be added to increase the cycle rate. Your valve can be changed out for a high-flow to lower the operating pressure, the springs and hammers can be changed to do the same, there are about a million different types of bolts, rear-blocks, bolt retention pins, beaver tails, grip frames, trigger types, sears, and even ball detents that can all be changed/replaced/tweaked to make the marker completely yours and like no other.

They truly are the pinnacle of customization in a sport where cookie-cutter markers have been the norm for quite some time now. All that customization and the moving parts tend to both awe and intimidate people at the same time. Honestly, the theory is simple, and once you grasp it, there's no end to what you can make a 'cocker do. There's a reason people still stare in wonder whenever they see a nice one out on the field.

Well it's a good thing i ask'd you guys, ty.

DeTrevni i seen your race cocker and wanted to know what year/model that was?

Amazon is selling 05 pro-stocks for $94 New!
Amazon.com Link

Best deal in paintball history if you ask me.

I may pick up a few just to tinker around with at that price!

Edited by tallen702 - 30 September 2007 at 3:20pm

hey! before you order!

Action Village is selling Super-Stock-Select-Fire (e-trigger) cockers for something like $150 shipped now.

I kinda got my eyes set on the "04 Pro Stock" for only 94 bucks tho? And yea im off work for a month or two...

Edit: I Kinda want to upgrade it with other things, i probly wont be able to use it this month or so, so i need somthing i can learn from and somthing to work on.

Edited by kurieitaa - 01 October 2007 at 3:18am

Well i knew the "cocker" will be way different then my a5, but im up for the challenge.

tallen702 wrote: I have a feeling that we're going to see a re-birth of 'cocker users in the very near future with the fact that they have become so accessible with the price-drop.

Probably not. Their price range only really appeals those who are veterans of the game that either just love cockers or want a cheap but well performing mech/electro. But with all the newer mid-end electros coming out at very low prices, that market is continuing to dwindle. Autocockers are going out of date, soon they will only be seen being used by Cocker Collectors.

I blame K2. They basically killed any advancement and improvement in the Autococker design, and therefor killed the demand for them.

DeTrevni wrote: I talked to a Race tech. They have literally given up on the paintball market, and said that they will continue to service the old parts, but other than that, they are a dead company. Shame really, Race Frame > E-Blade.

I will be able to get those still right?

edit: nvm found them on pbreview lolz, man i think im going to have fun with this.

I was thinking of getting this "Planet Eclipse E-Blade Electronic + Grip Frame"

Edited by kurieitaa - 01 October 2007 at 3:17pm