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Poll Question: which of these is best, and why
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Originally posted by Meg@tr0n Meg@tr0n wrote:

jerseypaint:i didn't know that....are the new droids just as efficient?


The droids are supposedly at least as efficient. They're going to wind up being the top-end of Mac-Dev's offerings, so they'd better be for the price you'll wind up paying for one.
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Originally posted by Meg@tr0n Meg@tr0n wrote:

jerseypaint:i didn't know that....are the new droids just as efficient?

Yeah, I cannot wait to try one.  Sized like a shocker, efficiency like a Borg, and great quality from MacDev.


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Originally posted by p_p_b_h p_p_b_h wrote:

oh lol now im looking at mags.... there are too many nice guns in the world....mags look really sleek, small, and are supposed to be pretty good... grrr.....i feel like i should somehow get millions of dollars and just buy every gun out there... now i understand why gunwhores exist...

Mags are some of the best markers ever made, IMO. Why do you think most of todays high end markers use valves derived from Mags?

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I really dont consider markers that will be worth a 1/4th of their price new in 2 or 3 years to be high end. Why not just pick up a dm4 or 5 for like 3-400 used, just as fast, couple ounces heavier, little bigger. I've seen 05 egos down around 375-450, why pay 1200 when you can get a 2 year old version of really the same gun for way less.
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Originally posted by GhilleMan GhilleMan wrote:

I really dont consider markers that will be worth a 1/4th of their price new in 2 or 3 years to be high end. Why not just pick up a dm4 or 5 for like 3-400 used, just as fast, couple ounces heavier, little bigger. I've seen 05 egos down around 375-450, why pay 1200 when you can get a 2 year old version of really the same gun for way less.

Just because the price of a marker drops doesn't mean it isn't high end. The demand for the newest marker is so high in the high-end marker market, that the demand for older version shoots way down, leaving a large supply still in stores. To get these older models sold, companies and owners are forced to sell at a "too good to be true" type price to gain consumer appeal.
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Originally posted by jerseypaint jerseypaint wrote:

Originally posted by GhilleMan GhilleMan wrote:

I really dont consider markers that will be worth a 1/4th of their price new in 2 or 3 years to be high end. Why not just pick up a dm4 or 5 for like 3-400 used, just as fast, couple ounces heavier, little bigger. I've seen 05 egos down around 375-450, why pay 1200 when you can get a 2 year old version of really the same gun for way less.

Just because the price of a marker drops doesn't mean it isn't high end. The demand for the newest marker is so high in the high-end marker market, that the demand for older version shoots way down, leaving a large supply still in stores. To get these older models sold, companies and owners are forced to sell at a "too good to be true" type price to gain consumer appeal.


so why buy an 08 ego for 1300 when you can get an 05 for in the neighborhood of 400
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Originally posted by GhilleMan GhilleMan wrote:

so why buy an 08 ego for 1300 when you can get an 05 for in the neighborhood of 400

Never said they aren't over priced. I just said, because, over time, they fall in price doesn't mean they aren't high end.


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Originally posted by GhilleMan GhilleMan wrote:

Buzzard


I really dont consider markers that will be worth a 1/4th of their price new in 2 or 3 years to be high end. Why not just pick up a dm4 or 5 for like 3-400 used, just as fast, couple ounces heavier, little bigger. I've seen 05 egos down around 375-450, why pay 1200 when you can get a 2 year old version of really the same gun for way less.

Well what defines "high end"? Is depreciation really a factor or is quality, features, and the simply fact that there is demand at such a price enough to dictate that a product is considered high end?

 

Furthmore... while it might not be the most frugal or fiscall responsibl decision... if you are making a significant amount of money what is wrong with using your wealth to buy the fastest, lightest, and most expensive marker? How does buying the slightly better,... singificantl more expensive version of a product negate its niche of being a high end product?

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of the high end guns i own... (2k4 Texas Storm, PMR SE, 2k4 Cocker E2)

i prefer my 2k4 Cocker E2...

its fast: ~19bps from my fingers
its semi efficient: ~400 shots from a 47/3k
consistent: 280-295fps all day
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weight: who really cares (though i did buy my PMR because it weighed a lot less)
accuracy: godly with the .688 14" barrel i generally use
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found a deal online, guy sold a osirus with kaner kit for 390.... i cried.... alot.....
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Originally posted by p_p_b_h p_p_b_h wrote:

found a deal online, guy sold a osirus with kaner kit for 390.... i cried.... alot.....


im glad i didnt see it.. i woulda cried myself
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Hee. My Osiris was $200.
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Originally posted by DeTrevni DeTrevni wrote:

Hee. My Osiris was $200.


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how many cockers are actually considered high end? would my freeflow and my dads jeff orr be considered high end?

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'Cockers are kinda hard to place these days. The Jeff Orr signature series is usually considered to be good, but I don't know if they fit into the high-end category anymore. Not saying that they aren't of the utmost quality, just that people have started putting most 'cockers in the mid-range category these days due to the proliferation and lower costs.
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lol played speedball today. dont know why so many pople like shooting fast, i maybe used 5 balls a game and took about 2 out a game, missed maybe 1 ball. shooting walls of paint just means its hard to move. kinda funny, i did a run down the tape line and had 2 guys firing at me, by the sounds of it ramping there shockers(every1 had a shocker for some odd reason) and i put out 3 balls, got 1 guy twice, and put hte other ball so close to him he ducked in, then took a bunker and shot him with my left hand taking 3 shots, 1 hit his hopper when we snaped out. damn i love cockers.(although a lighter gun woulda been nice, i think if im feeling bold ill bring the phantom out,)
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ya ive decided to get some more 12 grams and stick a hopper on the phantom and play. ive given up on getting a new gun for now, i should just get better with the phantom, its the smallest and lightest gun i have, or work out a little more to offset the cockers weight.
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Sounds like you're playing a bunch of scrubs.

Whatever, though. Once you start to play competent people you may see the need for something with a little more oomph.



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one of my teamates has a cocker and its an awsome high end. i have a Tpppmann 98c Pro thats makes a real good high end. im a right wing for the Spartans and my marker was exactly what i needed for my position.
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Originally posted by Spartanz Halo Spartanz Halo wrote:

one of my teamates has a cocker and its an awsome high end. i have a Tpppmann 98c Pro thats makes a real good high end. im a right wing for the Spartans and my marker was exactly what i needed for my position.

98c is not high end. And depends on cocker if its high end. Unless its a Racer or something like that its not going to be considered high end either.
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