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    Posted: 22 May 2005 at 11:22am
My friend told me that if the made paintball, in which the paint could "swirl" then the balls would travel even farther on the flatline. Are there any paintballs like this? Maybe Tippmann could design their own paintballs too!
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would probably mean the fill would be less viscous. a thin fill may screw wit hthe paintball casing. ever put a paintball in water? it may be able to be done though. i dont know how they woould get the spin of the fill to any exact science
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It would be cool if they put fins inside the ball so that the paint moves with the outside shell.
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Cool, but cost about $100 a case.

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Originally posted by Priestthehunter Priestthehunter wrote:

My friend told me that if the made paintball, in which the paint could "swirl" then the balls would travel even farther on the flatline. Are there any paintballs like this? Maybe Tippmann could design their own paintballs too!

Yes, that would be very cool. But very expensive, too.

And Tippmann does make paint. It sucks.

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Originally posted by Monk Monk wrote:

It would be cool if they put fins inside the ball so that the paint moves with the outside shell.

Been done, but didnt catch on. Paint was ridiculously expensive, and no real improvent was shown. Making paint spin just doesnt work, where basically throwing water balloons. Even if the outside shell spins, the paint would. Ever spin a glass of ice water and see that the ice didnt follow the glass? Thats what a paintball would do.

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Originally posted by Ariakon_Eagle Ariakon_Eagle wrote:

Originally posted by Monk Monk wrote:

It would be cool if they put fins inside the ball so that the paint moves with the outside shell.

Been done, but didnt catch on. Paint was ridiculously expensive, and no real improvent was shown. Making paint spin just doesnt work, where basically throwing water balloons. Even if the outside shell spins, the paint would. Ever spin a glass of ice water and see that the ice didnt follow the glass? Thats what a paintball would do.



Thats the reason for the fins.
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The fins would make the paint spin. It would just throw the paint around inside, and it would need to be rubber to make a difference at all, and rubber would be dangerous. The paint is the 99% of the wieght of the paintball, you need that to spin to make any difference at all. Without it, its like spinning a ping pong ball.

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ever try swing a bucket of water well if you haven't the water stays at the bottom of the bucket same gos for piant in a piant ball  (but i think piant balls are filled all the way full) so making piant swirl in flight would be inpractical unless u put a piant mixer in the ball....   lololololol
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already been done 20 years ago.(third from the top)
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The spin has to be perfectly uniform for it to work. The spin creates lift, if this lift pulled in different directions in flight it would pull your ball off an accurate course of travel in the long run. Hey wait, isn't that how flatlines work now!

You would need a fill that was not dense, solid in the shell and liquid instantly once it hits air. There is real ammo that will go from solid to high energy plasma on impact, so I base my idea off that with the phase change.

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i just dont think it would work and they couldnt make it work unless it was expensive...either way i dont think it would cetch on
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aerodynamically it's possable (like a reverse backspin that puts pressure on the outer shell), meaning that it could work.  Even so, I may be wrong.  Pressure on the outer shell would mean that it would fit tighter to the flatline's inner chamber, and create more backspin, but then again, why not just buy bigger calibur paintballs?  Cool idea though...
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That sounds like a good idea, but I think the curve in the barrel may slow the pb down. Tippmann does make paint, but it is expensive. I've never tried it so i don't know how it performes.

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Originally posted by HITMAN187 HITMAN187 wrote:

That sounds like a good idea, but I think the curve in the barrel may slow the pb down. Tippmann does make paint, but it is expensive. I've never tried it so i don't know how it performes.

*?  This one I can't figure out...  The curve in the barrel makes the pb slow down?  That's the whole point of giving it backspin!

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Ive still never understood the people that talk about paintballs not spinning because of the liquid fill.

Spin one on your desk. It works. End of discussion.
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Yeah I know that! But the kid wants the ball to spin like a bullet inside of the flatline. 

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Originally posted by HITMAN187 HITMAN187 wrote:

Yeah I know that! But the kid wants the ball to spin like u bullet inside of the flatline. 

I thought he wanted it to go farther?  (bullet ball pierces the back of head, start bleeding to death)  Tell the wife and kids... (dies before finishing sentence)  Bullet balls?

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its imposible to do. Aball is not aerodynamic Thats why the bullets in guns today are shaped as cones, they have the ability to be rifled.
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It's been tried, but was never successfull.  It is a dump idea in my opinion.
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