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    Posted: 14 January 2017 at 6:43pm
So, I'm in the market for a new vehicle. 

Starting a new gig that is going to require about a 75-100 mile daily commute depending on which route I take, and carries the possibility of being stuck in bad traffic on top of it. 

Obviously with so much driving, MPG and comfort are going to come first, but I'm still hesitant to stick with a "car" when I absolutely loved the space I had in my crew-cab truck. 

I've checked out the Ford Fusion, which I liked as far as cars go, and really liked the Ford Explorer, but it seemed a little pricey plus the gas mileage probably isn't good enough to be my daily driver. Haven't seen the Toyota Camry in person yet, but I don't like the looks of them online.


That brings me to you guys. I feel like every time I go to look online, I'm either stunned by how uninformed I am of the market these days, or simply don't know what to look for.

I'll be looking for decent gas mileage, new or low mileage used, and nothing too compact. Throw some ideas at me. 
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The double clutch trannys on the Focus are garbage.

I really liked the new Honda Civic when I test drove it.

Problem with newer cars is direct injection. And I'm not sure if the motors in the new Toyota sedans have timing belts or chains. Chains are wonderful, especially if it's a non interference motor.
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Originally posted by impulse418 impulse418 wrote:

The double clutch trannys on the Focus are garbage.

I really liked the new Honda Civic when I test drove it.

Problem with newer cars is direct injection. And I'm not sure if the motors in the new Toyota sedans have timing belts or chains. Chains are wonderful, especially if it's a non interference motor.

Things like this are what I need to hear. I am one of the least mechanically inclined people I know, and have an incredibly limited knowledge concerning cars. 
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If you're drive didn't involve traffic, I would suggest a manual transmission. Most manufacturers are going towards the CVT, which I'm pretty leery of. Some have pulled it off better than others, but all in all still aren't the most reliable.

I would simply Google the living crap out of whatever car you're looking at. But I would highly suggest staying away from pretty much all domestic cars especially Chrysler, European, and Mitsubishi. Nissan has also got considerably worse reliability wise, mostly concerning their CVT transmission.

Hyundai has come a long way and has a great warranty. But their cars look like ugly copies of European designs.
Not sure if Subaru fixed their head gasket problems.
Haven't heard much on KIA

Take a look at the new Civic. Much larger the earlier gen, and the base model I drove was only $18k. The Corolla is also a nice car, but visibly looks smaller than the Civic.
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Ford has come a long, long way. Do not go for an AWD Edge but the FWD models are solid. I never cared for the Explorers because they felt like glorified edges to me.

I really, really like the Escape. When I worked for Ford we sold a ton with the only issues being recalls.
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Subaru fixed their head gasket issues, but wound up having torque converter issues in their lineartronic transmissions..... Ask me how I know this...

Given the mileage you're going to be putting on this thing USAF, I'd highly recommend going with something that has a nice, long, comprehensive warranty. Take it from someone who has put 120k miles on their car in 4 years.

Kias are really reliable and have come a long way in their time on the market, but they're frikken LOUD when it comes to road noise.

Mazda is solid. Let me rephrase that... Mazdas are probably the most dependable and best cars out there right now for the money. My 6s was a tank when it came to dependability. The wife's '09 Mazda 3s is closing in on 100k miles and the most we've had to do to it is change the oil and tires. We're likely going to go with the CX series for her next car later this year.
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Just looked them up, I don't hate the look of the Mazda 6 Touring. Another one to add to the list Wacko
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Whichever car you decide to go with, lurk around an owner forum for a week or 2 before deciding to see what kind of issues people are having with it.  
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Wife's Mazda 3 hatchback is really nice. I find it comfortable to drive in and it is zippy. When I rent cars, I've had a few times with 2015 camry's and I absolutely love driving that car compared to all the other rentals. Plenty of space and it feels nice with a great pick up and go off the line. As a toyota person, I was glad to see that Toyota has brought some youth into their cars.
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The only thing you mentioned that I have any experience with is the fusion. I've got an '09, so its a little older, but its a fantastic car.
The one I have is in no way even remotely built for power, but for economy. It's not a sprinter, but its a hell of a marathon runner. Long road trips are a cinch in it. It gets excellent highway miles and is very comfortable.

Also quite safe in crashes which involve animals of the hooved kind. I bulls-eyed a doe with it a few weeks back, killed her immediately, and did a mere bend in the hood that I'm not going to even bother to fix.

Oddly, its even good in the snow.

I've got an 800 mile drive to Kentucky for a wedding coming up this April, and I'm looking forward to the trip, only because this car is such a good set of wheels under me.


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     I had a 2013 Fusion as a take home car for work for about a year. It was a four cylinder. I loved how the car looked and handled. It got decent mileage on the highway (around 35), but under 20 or right at 20 in the city. I was a detective then, so I wasn't driving the vehicle hard either.
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Originally posted by Reb Cpl Reb Cpl wrote:

The only thing you mentioned that I have any experience with is the fusion. I've got an '09, so its a little older, but its a fantastic car.
The one I have is in no way even remotely built for power, but for economy. It's not a sprinter, but its a hell of a marathon runner. Long road trips are a cinch in it. It gets excellent highway miles and is very comfortable.

Also quite safe in crashes which involve animals of the hooved kind. I bulls-eyed a doe with it a few weeks back, killed her immediately, and did a mere bend in the hood that I'm not going to even bother to fix.

Oddly, its even good in the snow.

I've got an 800 mile drive to Kentucky for a wedding coming up this April, and I'm looking forward to the trip, only because this car is such a good set of wheels under me.




If any set of four wheels can survive Rebs luck it might be the best vehicle known to man.
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I got my wife the new Honda HRV. It is a bit smaller than the CRV, but doesn't feel like it inside. I've literally hauled the kitchen sink in this thing and the way the seats fold down (or up giving you tons of room from the floor) are amazing. 

Gas mileage is incredible as I average 30mpg ALL THE TIME even around town. On the highway I get around 35mpg. It has the new 4 cylinder with vtech that turns off a cylinder in the "eco" mode when on the highway. Uses regular gas, and I got the loaded version with leather and touch screen navi with touch screen controls for the hvac system. Seat heaters ect nice rimps, great tires, all wheel drive that is automatic when it feels a wheel slip. Great vehicle. I have 30,000 miles on mine already! We got it the week they came out last year. Zero issues, does amazing in the snow! These start at $18,000. Mine fully loaded was $25,000 after negotiation.

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I don't hate the look of that FE. I usually feel like most of the smaller crossovers are really girly but that one in black wouldn't be bad.

My dad found a good deal on a Nissan Juke Nismo RS, but I just can't get over the aesthetics.
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I haven't bought a new vehicle for myself since my '90 gmc, I like running used.  I'm not sure where you live, so if you don't need awd, I would avoid it.  You get better mileage and there's less maintenance costs down the road. Take lots of test drives, or if you know a friend or co-worker that has one that similar to what you want, talk to them about it, sit in it, check for things like blind spots which are different in every vehicle and depending on how tall you are; some are definitely better than others. I like the hunt of looking for a vehicle, I always have a make/model/ year range in mind and have spent up to a year looking for the right one.

Since moving to the island, I parked my forester, I don't need awd and the jdm turbo engine sucks gas. I picked up a mint '04 Vw Golf TDI.  I am getting 49 mpg in town, haven't had a long trip yet to check highway mileage.  GL.

Originally posted by usafpilot07 usafpilot07 wrote:

I don't hate the look of that FE. I usually feel like most of the smaller crossovers are really girly but that one in black wouldn't be bad.

My dad found a good deal on a Nissan Juke Nismo RS, but I just can't get over the aesthetics.

I bet these are nice vehicles, however I have always wondered what attracts anyone to it, imo it is one of the ugliest current vehicles on the road...DANG.






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Originally posted by JohnnyCanuck JohnnyCanuck wrote:

I haven't bought a new vehicle for myself since my '90 gmc, I like running used.  I'm not sure where you live, so if you don't need awd, I would avoid it.  You get better mileage and there's less maintenance costs down the road. Take lots of test drives, or if you know a friend or co-worker that has one that similar to what you want, talk to them about it, sit in it, check for things like blind spots which are different in every vehicle and depending on how tall you are; some are definitely better than others. I like the hunt of looking for a vehicle, I always have a make/model/ year range in mind and have spent up to a year looking for the right one.

I'll more than likely NOT go with AWD. It would only be needed a couple times a year tops. Only reason I'd get a vehicle where it was a vehicle is that I still have to go to work, no matter how bad the weather is. 

And, unfortunately, while I spent about 10 months looking for my last truck, I'm in a bit of a rush this go round. I don't trust my current daily driver to hold up to such a heavy commute each day. There's a decent chance it will come down to the first really good deal I come across in the next few weeks.

Since moving to the island, I parked my forester, I don't need awd and the jdm turbo engine sucks gas. I picked up a mint '04 Vw Golf TDI.  I am getting 49 mpg in town, haven't had a long trip yet to check highway mileage.  GL.

Originally posted by usafpilot07 usafpilot07 wrote:

I don't hate the look of that FE. I usually feel like most of the smaller crossovers are really girly but that one in black wouldn't be bad.

My dad found a good deal on a Nissan Juke Nismo RS, but I just can't get over the aesthetics.

I bet these are nice vehicles, however I have always wondered what attracts anyone to it, imo it is one of the ugliest current vehicles on the road...DANG.

Yeah, apparently they're fun to drive and the RS at least is really well put together inside, but it's hideous and I couldn't ever spend money on one.

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