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DeTrevni
Moderator Group b-YOU-ick. Was that so hard? Joined: 19 September 2005 Location: Houston, Texas Status: Offline Points: 11951 |
Posted: 24 September 2008 at 2:44pm | |||
Without even reading what Mack said, I'm gonna assume he just won.
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Evil Elvis: "Detrevni is definally like a hillbilly hippy from hell"
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AoSpades
Member Eight Lives Left Joined: 16 September 2008 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 396 |
Posted: 24 September 2008 at 2:47pm | |||
Well, if you can't take the heat...get inside with Mike
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The Reaper
Member Property of: Mack Joined: 19 August 2008 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 175 |
Posted: 24 September 2008 at 3:01pm | |||
Mack.
Why even post?
You don't buy paint at wal-mart. And you obviously by your post don't know about monster ball? I guess proving your internet tough guy is all that matters.
And by your response I see you have lots of free time...
Why don't you "try" some monster paint and get back to us Master?
I run a private field and have seen the issues that come from this paint. You can discredit that all you wish, but the fact is still the same, I know about monsterball paint, you don't...
move on grumpy. |
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Try being informed instead of just opinionated. How long before you admit that Obama was a mistake? |
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Snake6
Platinum Member Outranked by guitarguy? Joined: 11 September 2003 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 11229 |
Posted: 24 September 2008 at 3:11pm | |||
Mack is respected a hell of a lot more than you will be around here. Therefore you have no right to say anything, why can't you just move on?
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AoSpades
Member Eight Lives Left Joined: 16 September 2008 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 396 |
Posted: 24 September 2008 at 3:13pm | |||
"private field" is fancy talk for big backyard. Oh and yes i have used monster balls on more than one occasion. about a year ago they were banned from the field.
because they stained clothing
EDIT: i like how he buts alot of spaces between each sentence. It makes it easier for Macks Red writing of "you're wrongness" Edited by AoSpades - 24 September 2008 at 3:16pm |
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Rambino
Platinum Member I am even less fun in person Joined: 15 August 2002 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 16593 |
Posted: 24 September 2008 at 3:37pm | |||
No need to pile on, guys. Everybody is welcome to post their opinions here. I'm sure we can all get along if we try. |
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Mack
Moderator Group Has no impulse! control Joined: 13 January 2004 Location: 2nd Circle Status: Offline Points: 9906 |
Posted: 24 September 2008 at 3:41pm | |||
If that is the case, he needs to leave a little more room.
Edited by Mack - 26 September 2008 at 12:47am |
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The Reaper
Member Property of: Mack Joined: 19 August 2008 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 175 |
Posted: 24 September 2008 at 3:56pm | |||
http://forum.specialopspaintball.com/index.php?showtopic=158 364
http://www.amazon.com/review/product/B001715ID0?showViewpoin ts=1
http://www.walmart.com/catalog/allReviews.do?product_id=5774 956 above you can see lots of examples of the same stuff I was talking about. I'm done, you can have back your "forum"...
continue piling on... |
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Try being informed instead of just opinionated. How long before you admit that Obama was a mistake? |
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Mack
Moderator Group Has no impulse! control Joined: 13 January 2004 Location: 2nd Circle Status: Offline Points: 9906 |
Posted: 24 September 2008 at 4:38pm | |||
Edited by Mack - 26 September 2008 at 12:50am |
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jmac3
Moderator Group Official Box Hoister Joined: 28 June 2004 Status: Offline Points: 9204 |
Posted: 24 September 2008 at 7:54pm | |||
<silly youtube with their cursy soundtracks>
wut? Edited by Rambino - 24 September 2008 at 9:55pm |
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Que pasa?
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ammolord
Moderator Group Started from the botttom, not there yet Joined: 06 July 2007 Location: Minot, ND Status: Offline Points: 1850 |
Posted: 24 September 2008 at 8:02pm | |||
i duno, i dont realy have a problem with em. i dont use em cuz i got shot in the hand by one and it broke my thumb (gun WAS chronoed at 285).
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XBL: xXAmmoLordXx ~Minister of Tinkering With Things That Go "BOOM!"(AKA Minister of Munitions)~ |
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The Guy
Platinum Member Soup Can Guy Joined: 18 March 2004 Status: Offline Points: 6666 |
Posted: 24 September 2008 at 8:02pm | |||
Wut Jmac??
Are you saying the stupid Monsterball Experiment can be done on nearly any brand of paint with the same results? Proposterous. |
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NoMeRcY
Member Joined: 24 September 2008 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 9 |
Posted: 24 September 2008 at 10:54pm | |||
anybody know off hand what type of paint skirmish usa is using?
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Mike
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DeTrevni
Moderator Group b-YOU-ick. Was that so hard? Joined: 19 September 2005 Location: Houston, Texas Status: Offline Points: 11951 |
Posted: 25 September 2008 at 3:14am | |||
Without having read a word in this thread, other than the OP's, I can tell you right now why it's bunk. And I'll keep it short so people actually read it. :)
Monsterballs are paint. As such, they probably weigh the same amount as any other paint out there, give or take a VERY little. In consequence, at similar velocity and distance, they will hit JUST THE SAME as all the other paints. I don't understand where all this "Monsterball is liek sh00ting rawks!!1!" crap comes from. I mean, it sucks. I don't buy it because I can't get a reliable break... Edited by DeTrevni - 25 September 2008 at 3:15am |
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Evil Elvis: "Detrevni is definally like a hillbilly hippy from hell"
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The Reaper
Member Property of: Mack Joined: 19 August 2008 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 175 |
Posted: 25 September 2008 at 7:49am | |||
I love quotes like this. See the problem is, you don't know me... I see that you have very high regard for an arrogant blowhard like mack. But, why would that discount others opinions? Maybe you guys should make this a private forum, since all I get from you guys is attacks. Mack, when you said your niece was tougher than me, you started the name calling. I guess in this little world no one stands up to you... Sorry, I didn't know.
But, you are full of it. Fact. You don't buy monster paint. Fact. You make huge assumptions based on few words, thinking you completely understand and therefore have the need to "disprove" others opinions. Fact. You enjoy trying to make other people look bad. (which shows how insecure you actually are...) Fact. You like to pretend you are a "excellent" debator. When in fact you just like to see your words on the screen and pat yourself on the back. You are great at debating what you "think" the argument is about, but you don't get the facts first... Lets go back to the beginning and I will lay out the issue so that you can repaste my comments and put up more garbage about the paint you don't use, and don't like, but are so busy supporting. I don't know mike, and didn't paste his video. But, don't let the facts get in the way of bashing me, or aligning me with him. Look. I play paintball, (which should be enough to be "allowed" to post on here without attack). I have an opinion. I started the thread. On my private field (a little over 50 acres in my backyard) I have run into issues with this paint. Yes, I banned it from my field as most fields have done now. The reason why is because it doesn't break consistantly. Which increases the impact exponentially. As paintballs are designed to be safe when fired at or under 300fps and BREAKING when impacting. If the paint doesn't break, the danger of serious injury goes way up. I don't pretend that I am the only one who has seen the danger of these paintballs (as you do mack, I guess its easier to ignore the guy that had his finger broken by the paint on this very board...) But, I like to fix things. This paint issue could be easily fixed if enough guys contact the manufacturer and wal-mart and asked. That is all I was asking in this thread. You took it to this whole different level. Here is what I was thinking. Say some mother goes out and buys a tippmann A5 for her kid from wal-mart. And she buys monsterballs at the same time. Now, I know since you are "all knowing" that you will say this is rediculous. But, I had 4 brand new A-5's this year and ALL of them were shooting between 355 and 360 fps out of the box. Take that and monsterballs and you have a recipe for disaster. It didn't have anything to do with me or my playfield it has to do with public health.
Lots of young kids play paintball and their heads aren't as hard as yours. (pun intended). Edited by The Reaper - 25 September 2008 at 7:50am |
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Try being informed instead of just opinionated. How long before you admit that Obama was a mistake? |
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oldpbnoob
Platinum Member Not old, Not noob. May be Dave's grandma Joined: 04 February 2008 Location: Yankee Stadium Status: Offline Points: 5676 |
Posted: 25 September 2008 at 11:08am | |||
I'll put my .02 in. To start out, the only experience I have with MB was about two months ago when a guy brought some to a local BYOP field and when he opened them, they were obviously crap. You couldn't hardly get them to break and when they did, the inside was more like pancake batter than liquid. The guy also opened up a box of some other paint that he had gotten at Wally World as well and it truthfully, was about the same. By the same token, I have run into crap paint at FPO fields as well. One of the ones I go to only sells Origins. I usually have good luck with it, but the last time I went, the "basic" was total garbage. I watched guys getting peppered with little or no breaks. I also left that game with more welts on my arms from hard hits/no breaks than I have ever had before. I attribute it again to possibly an old batch as every other time it has been great. A couple of things regarding Reapers posts. 1. I have had neck breaks on FPO fields where the skin was broken as well as other parts of my body. That's why I now wear a neck protector ALL THE TIME. 2. Saying that you can save a life by writing to Walmart and Brass eagle about the quality of their products is a little extreme. Sometimes extreme isnt all that bad though. 3. Anybody shooting a marker out of the box at someone without chronoing beforehand gets what he/she deserves. Apparently, they failed to read the instruction manual. Parents that buy their kids markers without doing so are equally at fault. 4. A kid shouldn't get hit in the temple if he has a mask on. Nuff said. 5. It is your perogative to ban whatever you want at your field. You are the master of your domain. 6. My 10year old daughter won't even go play because she is afraid of being shot after seeing some of the welts I have come home with, so she isn't tougher than you. On a personal opinion note, I don't think anyone that is new to the hobby, should be buying their equipment at WM. (I don't think anybody should buy anything at WM, but that is another whole issue) People need to realize that PB markers are not toys and you should be properly educated about them when buying them. I can guarantee that most times the clerks at the big box stores have never even fired a marker let alone been schooled in proper safety. Just as a point of reference, Mack is typically very helpful and usually fairly patient. He has helped me with numerous issues that I have had and seems to be very well respected on this forum. Edited by oldpbnoob - 25 September 2008 at 11:14am |
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"When I grow up I want to marry a rich man and live in a condor next to the beach" -- My 7yr old daughter.
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Mack
Moderator Group Has no impulse! control Joined: 13 January 2004 Location: 2nd Circle Status: Offline Points: 9906 |
Posted: 25 September 2008 at 11:41am | |||
Edited: I think oldpbnoob pretty much covered the issue with what I've copied below:
Second Edit: If anyone wants to start a petition to ask Wal-Mart (and other box stores) to either get educated about paintball or get their stupid butts the heck out of our sport, I'll probably sign that. My big irrational safety fear concerns an eight or nine year old whose mommy and daddy have allowed them to keep their Wal-Mart marker, tank and paintballs in their room because they're "just harmless toys" according to the associate who sold them the stuff. Edited by Mack - 26 September 2008 at 1:04am |
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DeTrevni
Moderator Group b-YOU-ick. Was that so hard? Joined: 19 September 2005 Location: Houston, Texas Status: Offline Points: 11951 |
Posted: 25 September 2008 at 12:36pm | |||
Seriously, Reaper. Are you even reading Mack's posts, or just assuming you're superior? Every single one refutes everything you say with logic and understanding, and your rebuttals are to the effect of, "NUH-UH!!!" If you're gonna leave, leave, if you're gonna stay, don't be all butt-hurt about an argument over the internet...
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Evil Elvis: "Detrevni is definally like a hillbilly hippy from hell"
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jmac3
Moderator Group Official Box Hoister Joined: 28 June 2004 Status: Offline Points: 9204 |
Posted: 25 September 2008 at 1:24pm | |||
I would like you to know some fields that have banned MB has nothing to with it being "dangerous"
In talks with a person that runs a field that banned MB. He said only because of environmental issues. He has no issues with the alleged "danger" Reaper, maybe if you had FACTS to prove your OPINION. Also, you say your private field. Do you check velocities of every single person every game? Do you check them at all? Do people use CO2? You need to realize that Monsterballs may not break, but it is more due to the age of them sitting in WalMart. I have taken dead center lens bounces from better paint. I have also taken hopper bounces with equally decent paint. |
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Que pasa?
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Mack
Moderator Group Has no impulse! control Joined: 13 January 2004 Location: 2nd Circle Status: Offline Points: 9906 |
Posted: 25 September 2008 at 6:52pm | |||
Well . . . now the gloves are off.
I'll start with quote and a few comments to refresh everyone's memory.
With
that out of the way, let’s get down to business. Below is an excerpt from an earlier post:
Apparently, he actually felt that he did need to prove his toughness though because he followed up a few posts later with this:
During a later reexamination of this picture I realized something remarkable: We have a Congressional Medal of Honor recipient on the forum. (FYI:
That is what the medal on the right is.) Below is a pic for comparison
and here is a link
to the site I got it from.
Edited by Mack - 25 September 2008 at 10:44pm |
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