for all you "snipers"
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Topic: for all you "snipers"
Posted By: gnarkill
Subject: for all you "snipers"
Date Posted: 03 June 2004 at 7:55pm
yes this is another sniper post. even though i think there is no such thing in the game of paintball. well here is what i am going to show you snipers http://www.paintballstar.com/pn/modules.php?op=modload&name=PagEd&file=index&page_id=195 - http://www.paintballstar.com/pn/modules.php?op=modload&n ame=PagEd&file=index&page_id=195
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Posted By: spyderjunke
Date Posted: 03 June 2004 at 8:02pm
  yeah that puts all the " iam a sniper " to rest
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Posted By: gnarkill
Date Posted: 03 June 2004 at 8:07pm
I think the mods should have a setting where every post with the word sniper would be deleted.
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Posted By: You Wont See Me
Date Posted: 03 June 2004 at 8:38pm
Im going to go buy that NOW!!!!!!
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Posted By: DeathFromAfar
Date Posted: 03 June 2004 at 8:41pm
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nothin against you but i have an idea that you dont like snipers...is it because u cant beat them? or the fact that while there 250+ feet away and u cant see them they can see and take u out?
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Posted By: †Sniper†
Date Posted: 03 June 2004 at 8:42pm
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No markers can shoot 250 ft bubba...try again...
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Posted By: DeathFromAfar
Date Posted: 03 June 2004 at 8:51pm
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Posted By: diabloboy
Date Posted: 03 June 2004 at 8:56pm
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Many players will claim that paintball snipers do not exist. They do, but sniping in paintball refers to a style of play and not sharpshooting from a great distance as, of course, the distance that a paintball can travel is quite limited. Sniping refers to a style of play, most often applied in woods games, where the sniper will usually attack by surprise and from concealment, often moving from spot to spot, as they wait for their opponents to come within range or stealthily make they way within range of their targetWhile the sniper won't be found at your local speedball field, you will likely to see them (or not) at a big games, and scenario games, where the fields are much larger, time constraints are minimal, and there are many more people involved. Naysayers will claim that snipers are nothing more than campers, but here is the difference: the camper will find himself a comfortable spot, usually an easily defended man-made bunker, and there he will stay and happily wait until the action comes to him. The sniper, on the other hand is working the bush, using any cover to his advantage as he makes his way into the area where his opponents are to be found or sets up for an eminent ambush. He may hold a position for some time before moving on, always alert for the next best spot of concealment, often taking to the ground to crawl to the next position undetected.
The sniping style of play requires a great deal of patience. In fact, patience is probably the single most important virtue of the paintball sniper. If you don't have it, learn it, or try a different style of play, because you can never be more than mediocre at sniping without it. So sniping isn't as easy as many may think. It requires patience, skill, and knowhow to be effective at this style of play, but it can also be very rewarding. There is great deal of satisfaction in hearing, "Where IS he?!" after that covert elimination!
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Posted By: TheRevelation
Date Posted: 03 June 2004 at 8:57pm
Hey, just think about this. Every newbie at one time wants to be a sniper. Theres a sort of romance about it. Being able to stay far away, safe, and get everyone out. Marketing sniper products would be a good way to make money.
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Posted By: DeathFromAfar
Date Posted: 03 June 2004 at 8:59pm
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true...thats alot like how i play...but i work every day imporving my aim on cans at long distances, so far with 3 shots i have hit a can 274.5 feet away...im working on 300...but its hard...u have to kinda aim high and far...complicated...but it works
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Posted By: gnarkill
Date Posted: 03 June 2004 at 9:42pm
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DeathFromAfar wrote:
true...thats alot like how i play...but i work every day imporving my aim on cans at long distances, so far with 3 shots i have hit a can 274.5 feet away...im working on 300...but its hard...u have to kinda aim high and far...complicated...but it works |
What kinda barrel do you have....it has to be a flatline. EVERYDAY! you can afford to practice EVERYDAY? i doubt it and ya i think the only kind of sniper is one that is quiet and is highly camoed up. thats it.
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Posted By: PaintMagnet
Date Posted: 03 June 2004 at 9:50pm
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I have a scope on my tippy lol~
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Posted By: Mr Fett
Date Posted: 04 June 2004 at 2:30am
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†Sniper† wrote:
No markers can shoot 250 ft bubba...try again... |
umm, you try again...the flatline barrels can reach 250 ft. :-)
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Posted By: oldsoldier
Date Posted: 04 June 2004 at 10:06am
OK TROOPS....let us review one more time. "Sniping" as a TACTICAL APPLICATION is totally useless in the game of woods paintball....unless you are targeting newbs for sport. But as an actual COMBAT MULTIPLIER for your TEAM you are useless.
Now lets examine the physics of balistics......I am sure we can find someone out there who can possibly hit something at 250feet with a HOWITZER arc, but for accuracy and consistancy Mr Newton's Laws of physics as well as several others have not been rewritten for the paintball sniper.
Even in actual firearm shooting accuracy at extended ranges beyond the MAXIMUM EFFECTIVE RANGE of a weapon is suspect. The .45ACP fired from a M1911A1 pistol can only hit consistantly in a COMBAT enviorment ar 25m (75feet) and a "hope to hel*" 50/50 man sized target hit shot can be made at 50m (150feet) and that is a better balistic shaped round traveling at 790fps +/-. And we have young einstiens here that claim a soft geletin shelled liquid filled "ball" subject to various balistic faults at 290fps can accurately hit at 250feet? (80meters).
The concept of sniping and "HERO WORSHIP" usually dies once our mismatched ghillie suited wonder, who picks a tactically inappropiate site based only on his markers fire zone fires his first round at someone who actually has some skill in the game. Newb hunts are fun, but try it against a OMHW and see what happens.
As for our video, I could go out and shoot one too, on all the faults of the concept, and I do give a class at TWC's every year, on the techniques of the sniper, and then explain how they do not relate and or correspond to the short ranges of this game.
I am a trained MOS carrying sniper, and have proven my skill on the field....probably why I am so good at picking out the amateurs mistakes.
The tenants of "sniping" are the ability to shoot from outside of immediate accurate return fire, to shoot from outside of visual aquisition range of the human eye established as 250meters, and to site a position that provides cover, concealment, egress, and most of all the ability to do the unexpected.
Sneaking around thru the woods in a mismatched suit, trying to AMBUSH newbs as an individual is not a TACTICAL APPLICATION of the skill, it is a NON TEAM PLAYER attempting to impress those of limited skill that his CONCEPT is correct, but yet only based on a TV/movie read the books mentality, not training and a practical TACTICAL APPLICATION.
I appreciate each and every sniper on the other TEAM for he/she decreases that TEAMS overall COMBAT POWER by one, making our mission accomplishment that much easier.
OMHW wishes to thank all those opposing wanna-be's who attempt this failed concept...and if you are playing alongside us you too can enjoy the fun of our usual game "sniper hunts" as I explain the fine art of "wanna-be sniper hunting" to all those willing to actually learn how to apply an actual LIGHTFIGHTING skill to thier game.
Buy the markers, by the produsts some marketer has put out there, but the ole Mark 1 Brain cell still has to work effectivly for any equipment to work, and if the brain is not working and in the proper mindset, all the "toys" in the world will not help your game.
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Posted By: paintballaluke
Date Posted: 04 June 2004 at 11:56am
nice video clips!
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Posted By: evil_fingers
Date Posted: 04 June 2004 at 4:26pm
uh oh.....this looks like everyone wants to become a sniper now
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Posted By: †Sniper†
Date Posted: 04 June 2004 at 4:39pm
Mr Fett wrote:
†Sniper† wrote:
No markers can shoot 250 ft bubba...try again... |
umm, you try again...the flatline barrels can reach 250 ft. :-)
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Read his next post, claiming he can shoot 274 feet. Thats a load of
crap and then some. And nobody can shoot accurately at 250 feet,
much less hit with nearly every shot. Good job sucking on your facts
bud.
All that was in response to:
DeathFromAfar wrote:
true...thats alot like how i play...but i work
every day imporving my aim on cans at long distances, so far with 3
shots i have hit a can 274.5 feet away...im working on 300...but its
hard...u have to kinda aim high and far...complicated...but it
works |
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Posted By: Carbine assault
Date Posted: 04 June 2004 at 4:45pm
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Theres no such thing as snipers really, but the tactic of sniping does. ineffective? yes.
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Posted By: jimmy_needles
Date Posted: 15 June 2004 at 2:53pm
†Sniper† wrote:
No markers can shoot 250 ft bubba...try again...
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Posted By: oldsoldier
Date Posted: 15 June 2004 at 5:29pm
Do any of you truely understand what maximum effective range if a marker is as compared to maximum range.
Having the ability to howitzer out a ball 100m is fine, odds on a hit...minimal, odds on a break..infentesimal.
The balistics of a paintball, along with the impact energy required for a high percentage "break" is approximately 20-25m that is 75feet plus or minus. The flatline does not increase maximum effective range. all it does is lower the balistic arc of the flight of the ball. The impact energy of the ball decreases proportionatley with range and beyond the MER the percentage of ball break drops considerably.
So the flatline does not give you better "range", your atual MEF is still 20-25m only the balistic arc of the ball is lower making "straight shooting" at MEF that much easier.
I used a original flatline, one of the first, saw no distinct advantage in range, only the differance in the flight of the ball. I am back to standard barrels due to the "problems" inheriant to the flatline.
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Posted By: ktaz_90
Date Posted: 17 October 2004 at 5:49pm
i like the idea of snipering but for me i play the snipering theme but i also play speed ball so i disagree with some about the whole newbie thing
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Posted By: Frozen
Date Posted: 17 October 2004 at 5:51pm
This thread is four months old.
End yourself.
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Posted By: je2ta
Date Posted: 17 October 2004 at 7:23pm
I agree with OLDSOLDIER on the fact i hate playing woodsball and theres always one person who wants to be the sniper so he goes ands hides, while the rest of the team moves he stays in one place waiting?????why its useless. By the time the other team evens gets remotely close the rest of the team is already engaged in combat and when its over the "sniper" comes out and says "i was waiting till they got closer". Not very fun waiting instead of playing with the rest of the team if you ask me.
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Posted By: Pigtail999
Date Posted: 17 October 2004 at 7:25pm
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Posted By: Psycho5785
Date Posted: 17 October 2004 at 9:17pm
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gnarkill wrote:
I think the mods should have a setting where every post with the word sniper would be deleted. |
Like... This one?
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Posted By: chronzak
Date Posted: 17 October 2004 at 9:52pm
ktaz_90 wrote:
i like the idea of snipering but for me i play the
snipering theme but i also play speed ball so i disagree with some
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"snipering" dam kid are you retarded? just goes to show how dumb the sniper supporters are
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Posted By: @5 M@$T@
Date Posted: 17 October 2004 at 9:52pm
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†Sniper† wrote:
No markers can shoot 250 ft bubba...try again... |
You are obviously stupid. Youll remember saying that n00b comment when Im taking you out at 300 ft. And your name is sniper, if you were a sniper you would know that you can shoot farther than 250+ ft.
PS: shooting people from 20 ft away doesnt count as a snipe.
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Posted By: SR_Crewchief
Date Posted: 17 October 2004 at 10:17pm
@5 M@$T@ wrote:
†Sniper† wrote:
No markers can shoot 250 ft bubba...try again... |
You are obviously stupid. Youll remember saying that n00b comment when Im taking you out at 300 ft. And your name is sniper, if you were a sniper you would know that you can shoot farther than 250+ ft.
PS: shooting people from 20 ft away doesnt count as a snipe. |
300ft? Not likely. While it is balisticly possible under certain conditions for a paintball to travel this far, it will not the the energy necessary to break, even against a hard surface.
Before making claims of this kind of range, show us your controlled testing results.
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Posted By: evil_fingers
Date Posted: 18 October 2004 at 2:16am
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GOOD GOD!!!! what bonehead bumped this old thread up 
I wanna make a suggestion....anyone bumpin a thread thats more than a month old should be guested.
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Posted By: MROD
Date Posted: 18 October 2004 at 11:18am
my God there needs to be a sniper sticky. These posts r just getting so annoying.
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Posted By: [FI]
Date Posted: 18 October 2004 at 12:39pm
This is funny...*pops popcorn*
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Posted By: Frozen
Date Posted: 18 October 2004 at 12:49pm
SR_Crewchief wrote:
@5 M@$T@ wrote:
†Sniper† wrote:
No markers can shoot 250 ft bubba...try again... |
You are obviously stupid. Youll remember saying that n00b comment when Im taking you out at 300 ft. And your name is sniper, if you were a sniper you would know that you can shoot farther than 250+ ft.
PS: shooting people from 20 ft away doesnt count as a snipe. |
300ft? Not likely. While it is balisticly possible under certain
conditions for a paintball to travel this far, it will not the the
energy necessary to break, even against a hard surface.
Before making claims of this kind of range, show us your controlled testing results. |
Exactly. Sure, I can lob a ball 300 feet easily, but the odds of it actually hitting anything and breaking are slim to none.
Also, my name is a bit of a misnomer. I don't actually snipe/try to
snipe/sharpshoot/be lame/get owned in paintball by trying to be
something that doesn't exist.
For those of you out of the loop, I am †Sniper†...
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