Do you think "snipers" are real?
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Topic: Do you think "snipers" are real?
Posted By: DeathFromAfar
Subject: Do you think "snipers" are real?
Date Posted: 08 June 2004 at 5:15pm
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Do you think that "Snipers" are real? |
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Posted By: painthunter9
Date Posted: 08 June 2004 at 5:16pm
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ya there is snipers ------------- 98c flatline remote pen spring mod car stock |
Posted By: DeathFromAfar
Date Posted: 08 June 2004 at 5:17pm
| i know there are...i just wana see what other people think |
Posted By: Figment #99
Date Posted: 08 June 2004 at 5:18pm
| Yes, but not in paintball. |
Posted By: Trogdor2
Date Posted: 08 June 2004 at 5:20pm
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Not in paitnaball. In war, snipers are used.
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Posted By: DeathFromAfar
Date Posted: 08 June 2004 at 5:22pm
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yes...there are snipers in paintball...if u would go back to the roots of paintball then u would know that...the problem is that there are to many people that pick up a paintball gun and go out and start shoting ppl and think that they are players...trust me...they may play the game but they know nothing about its past and how public paintball got started snipers are real in paintball...the term sniper refers to a style of play that takes a long time to get good at, im not gona say how to become a sniper...ull have to figure it out on your own |
Posted By: Notorious Bob
Date Posted: 08 June 2004 at 5:26pm
Those people were the ones who got ghille suits and waited under a bush to shoot...that was mostly a induvidal sport, now it is teamwork. |
DeathFromAfar wrote:Posted By: -Tippy98
Date Posted: 08 June 2004 at 5:32pm
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oh yes there are snipers, those are the guys that you think are bushes or tree stumps and then a few quiet balls come at ya and ur out for the time being. ------------- Playin the game of work and paintball |
Posted By: DeathFromAfar
Date Posted: 08 June 2004 at 5:34pm
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thank you...now i know that about 1/2 of the people on this are just newbies no offence...but for all yall who said no...go talk to some people who play war games and some of the people who took this sport from nothin to a everyday thing you should thank people like that for that...without them who knows...ur so loved speed ball might not be around NEVER FORGET THE ROOTS!!! |
Posted By: I <3 my A5
Date Posted: 08 June 2004 at 6:16pm
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Posted By: paintmonster99
Date Posted: 08 June 2004 at 6:33pm
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yes there are snipers but i dont think there are any or very little in paintball ------------- kill or be killed |
Posted By: CodFillet8063
Date Posted: 08 June 2004 at 7:31pm
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I believe the roots of snipers were people that could pick off a small bird called the Snipe. I don't know where I heard that, but if it is true then I guess you're a sniper if you can shoot a small bird with a paintball gun...
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Posted By: jigglydude
Date Posted: 08 June 2004 at 7:41pm
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funny how u say that the oldewr players r snipers, because all the
older players on this forum dont believe in snippers, and the newer 1's
do. and unless u say how u becoime a sniper, you can not say you are one. otherwise i could say that i am the ruler of china, but i wont tell u why, i just am, so get to work people and fix my wall!! |
Posted By: TippyPOWER
Date Posted: 08 June 2004 at 7:44pm
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not too many REAL snipers, the ones with ghillie suits.If you have a ghillie suit and you fire very little shots from afar while remaining hidden-YES if you r stupid and hide in the back shooting loads of paint and callin yourself a sniper, then NO ------------- I remember the day I dropped my 98 on my spyder and the feedneck dented and fell off My Setup 98C Response Dead On Drop Fwd 2X Trig Halo TSA painted Black Flatline X-chamber Raised Rail |
Posted By: GunSamuri
Date Posted: 08 June 2004 at 8:51pm
wow thats big talk coming from someone with less than 20 posts LOL. also I noted that U joined may of this year thats 1 month and now U are being tunnel visioned saying "yes theyre are snipers no matter what" How much of the roots do you know? why dont you right us a nice little history of paintball snipers so I can hear why theyre are some? Because if youve only been playing paintball for a few months I think that would make you then newb.... ------------- Tippmann A5 Flatline Barrel Egrip W/DF Trigger 6 stage X chamber Rear Velocity Adjuster Yea I may be Cocky but I have the skills to back it up :P |
Posted By: You Wont See Me
Date Posted: 08 June 2004 at 8:57pm
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Posted By: BryanGehrke
Date Posted: 08 June 2004 at 8:58pm
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hahaha yea im new to the forum to but well put, i got a laugh outa that ------------- 98c 14in teardrop R/T GTA expansion chamber GTA Double Trigger Evlution 2 viewloader |
Posted By: jt8hammer
Date Posted: 08 June 2004 at 9:45pm
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Why is there always posts about snipers on here, to me its really getting old. But i dont think there are snipers in paintball, you cannot consistently shoot in the exact spot you are aiming for in paintball, nor can you get the distance (unless you use a flatline which has little accuracy. But there are snipers, just not in paintball. ------------- 
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Posted By: GunSamuri
Date Posted: 08 June 2004 at 9:51pm
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why are theyre always sniper posts? what an An aparently no one told you that all new paintball players want to be snipers! man i remember the day i wanted to be a sniper...lol ------------- Tippmann A5 Flatline Barrel Egrip W/DF Trigger 6 stage X chamber Rear Velocity Adjuster Yea I may be Cocky but I have the skills to back it up :P |
ABSURED QUESTION! because this is the tippmann forums ofcourse!!!!Posted By: GunSamuri
Date Posted: 08 June 2004 at 9:52pm
then I got my big kid underwear.... ------------- Tippmann A5 Flatline Barrel Egrip W/DF Trigger 6 stage X chamber Rear Velocity Adjuster Yea I may be Cocky but I have the skills to back it up :P |
Posted By: wonk22
Date Posted: 08 June 2004 at 10:03pm
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sniper
n : a marksman who shoots at people from a concealed place A skilled military shooter detailed to spot and pick off enemy soldiers from a concealed place. One who shoots at other people from a concealed place. i think the question should be is there shooting in paintball???....shooting or marking...hmmmm ------------- 
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Posted By: evil_fingers
Date Posted: 08 June 2004 at 10:28pm
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Paintball snipers are actually around, but its not the same as the "real world sniper", paintball snipers jus sit around wit their ghillie suits or whatever type of camo that he or she is wearing and the paintball sniper doesnt hafta to shoot like the real ones...paintball snipers jus sit in whatever foliage is around and wait and blow away their opponents wit whatever marker he/she has when they walk right pass the sleathy paintball sniper. If you wanna more....look it up in http://www.paintballstar.com - www.paintballstar.com they have a dvd video available if anyone wants to know whata paintball sniper is really about. ------------- Do not steal....the government hates competition! 
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Posted By: wonk22
Date Posted: 08 June 2004 at 10:42pm
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there are people in paintball that call themselves snipers....that doesnt make them one....nobody "shoots" anyone in paintball....they mark them -------------
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Posted By: KillerCanuk
Date Posted: 09 June 2004 at 6:28am
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There are paintball snipers, but they're not guys that hang back at the end of a field and drop paint between the eyes of their opponents on the other side.
Paintball snipers are the guys that sneak around so well, that you walk right past them and dont even know they are there, until you get a few quietly placed shots on your back. Thats at real paintball sniper. ------------- 
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Posted By: oldsoldier
Date Posted: 09 June 2004 at 7:20am
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Lions, and Tigers, and Bears.....oh my.....
Again on the New Players Forum.....go figure. |
Posted By: ares
Date Posted: 09 June 2004 at 7:30am
| the paintball industry reconizes snipers |
Posted By: LordJovian
Date Posted: 09 June 2004 at 7:40am
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Posted By: oldsoldier
Date Posted: 09 June 2004 at 11:09am
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The "industry" "recognizes" "paintball snipers" because too many young troops will buy whatever high speed low drag, fancy named marker in hopes that they actually can improve their skills. Practice and technique takes too much work for the younger generation, when you can buy a "wondergun" that will do it all for you, yeah, right. The hide and hope crowd CANNOT and HAS NOTclearly defined the "paintball sniper" as doing anything "special" that the standard one each woodsball player does as a norm. Shooting from a concealed position.....I guess the rest of us stand up in the open and shoot at the opponants, and only our "paintball snipers" are SMART enough to actual hide and shoot from a concealed position. Once said "paintball snipers" can diferentiate between an "AMBUSH" and a clearly defined TACTICAL APPLICATION of a "paintball sniper" maybe us "older" players might stop laughing for those few seconds, before we overcome the individual "hero" in his badly designed ghillie suit, and poorly picked position.
I use "RANGER" styled tactics, hard hitting, fast moving, and co-ordinated attacks...and I do not, and never will call myself a "PAINTBALL RANGER", for my ego is not that frail wherein I need a "NAME" to feel that I am better than the next guy playing the game. As the NORM...the PAINTBALL SNIPER posts generally fall into the NEW PLAYER FORUM for those of us with actual expierience and skill already know better, and do not post this useless dribble hoping for a justifacation and a boost to our ego. |
Posted By: oldsoldier
Date Posted: 09 June 2004 at 11:15am
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Oh and "stacking" the pole results is a real reflection of the opinions expressed........again a few need to justify their frail egos and multi vote....just to make it appear that they have a "valid" point......
We have beat this DEAD HORSE....go find a forum that actually believes...and post there.....we have made the point and the MAJORITY here has voiced their opinion many, many times before, and the results do not change that "quickly". The high percentage here on the TIPPMANN forum...beleive in TEAMWORK and actual TACTICAL APPLICATIONS not a fancy PERCEPTION of a skill. |
Posted By: maddog192
Date Posted: 09 June 2004 at 11:21am
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In the us military snipers are 1500% more accurate than the avarage soldier. In paintball you cannot be that accurate. Snipers are one shot one kill. In paintball the ball move slow enough that you can see them. Now many time you can avoid them but snipers only fire one shot to get a kill in real life. Snipers in paintball dont exist only people who pick off people from a distance with 5 or six shots. In paintball there is too many factors that affect the paintball's path and you CANT hit a target at 150 yards with 1 shot. Its not possible especially if they are moving. ------------- Venimus, Vidimus, Pinximus (We Came, We Saw, We Painted) |
Posted By: Natural_Force
Date Posted: 09 June 2004 at 11:21am
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If you are going to compare paintball to the military, then yes, there are snipers. Say that the average shooting distance in the military is comperable to the average shooting distance in paintball, then compare a military sniper to what would be its equivilant in paintball. The equivilant would be someone that has a barrel like a flatline and is a very good shot. They stay back and take the longer shots while other players are up closer to the action taking shots in large volume. However, these "sniper" tactics are usually frowed upon because it isn't in the spirit of the game. You aren't playing with real bullets that can cause you serious harm, and the guns you use don't have near the accuracy or predictibality that real guns have. So get in the action, mix it up, and don't worry about being hit. If you think you're a "sniper" you should rethink your strategy, or even if the game is right for you. |
Posted By: Menohl
Date Posted: 09 June 2004 at 11:53am
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I'm sure i'm opening myself up to a massive flood here, but if so, whatever...
I myself, along with the rest of my team consider me a "sniper". First off to clear up confusion, my team is a woodsball team, we don't play speedball very much at all, we play woodsball. Now your saying that if you don't compete in speedball then its not really a team. Fine, me and my friends play every weekend agaist other groups of friends in the woods field at my paintball field. Now that we got that out of the way... Good Woodsball is like speedball in the fact that there are positions, similar to back middle front. We have our pointmen, our flankers, our scouts (aka runners) and I'm the "sniper". My tactics from my military training basically dictated how i was going to play before i even decided it. Now, i don't wear a guillie suit, but i do wear camo. I spend most of the game in one location waiting for the enemy team to either come into my sights, or my team to flush them to me. I do not move very often, and when i do move its usually via bellycrawl and extremely slow so i the other team doesn't see or hear me moving. When i do shoot i use my scope, and i never fire more than 3 round busts; 1. because I only fire when its a sure thing 2. I don't give away my position by firing a dozen rounds. On average my teammates go through 200-400 rounds a game and get 1-2 kills. On that same game i usually go through 20-30 rounds and average 2-3 kills. My marker is set up for the style i play, my scope helps me see enemy coming a long way away, and under 50 feet is pretty accurate for aiming, my stock steadys my aim, my remote keeps the weight off my marker and makes it easier to handle, my barrel is very quiet and doesn't give my position away to the whole woods. I could go on but there is no point. Being a good sniper requires patience, accuracy, a good sense of stealth, and knowing the terrain you play on like the back of your hand. Most people do not have the patience for it, and when they hear a fight going on in another area they will get up and go looking to join the fight, or they will get tired after sitting in the same area for 15-20 minutes and will move on. If you are very patient and a good shot sniping can be very rewarding, but if you just like the sound of a bunch of markers going off and paintballs wizzing by your head, then its not for you. ------------- 
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Posted By: You Wont See Me
Date Posted: 09 June 2004 at 12:32pm
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Old soldier:1,000,000,000
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Posted By: Smitty
Date Posted: 09 June 2004 at 1:12pm
| yes i think there are paintball snipers. they are the guys that ssit in bushes or trees that can shoot far and that are hard to see. i think anyone that is in a stationed position is a sniper. they are the ones that try to "snipe" people out from a place where they are barely seen. |
Posted By: You Wont See Me
Date Posted: 09 June 2004 at 1:18pm
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Posted By: spyderjunke
Date Posted: 09 June 2004 at 1:36pm
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Posted By: unknown_user
Date Posted: 09 June 2004 at 1:46pm
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im a sniper, i wear a ghille suit and i like to eat some twinkies while im waiting and waiting for someone to walk around me . I also like to drink pepsi and fall asleep... hey im a sniper
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Posted By: ares
Date Posted: 09 June 2004 at 3:56pm
| if u know where every one is(like in speed ball) then there is no snipers but part of the game i play(i usually play on a farm near a barn) involves hiding. ussually both teams attack each other but i guess some one could snipe. |
Posted By: tippmann89c
Date Posted: 09 June 2004 at 4:48pm
The exact same question was asked by Mr. Marker on April 18.  Search
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Posted By: evil_fingers
Date Posted: 09 June 2004 at 6:04pm
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If everyone is a sniper is woodsball, whos gonna be in the assault team. And like I said before there is a DVD video on the subject of paintball snipers available....this I know cus Ive seen it. But, fer those who still wont believe it, then this thread will go on and on and on......... ------------- Do not steal....the government hates competition!
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Posted By: SR_Crewchief
Date Posted: 10 June 2004 at 11:09am
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I see that it's time for an educational document...again.
Read and Learn. First some basics need to be established. The game is paintball and for the purposes of this class it is played in the woods where the terrain dictates that you’ll be engaging each other most of the time at between 20 and 25 meters. (In other words close range) It is played most often by 2 opposing sides of roughly equal size. For all intent and purposes this game is modeled on military small unit combat. Now several you are going "whoo hoo, my kind of sniper country"…without knowing what makes a sniper. Many of you have gone to the dictionary and found a reference saying something to the effect that a sniper is someone who fires from concealment and have used this a your basis for your claim to being one in paintball. That's all well and dandy, except you ignore the rest of the definition. snip·er ( P ) Pronunciation Key (sn p r)n. A skilled military shooter detailed to spot and pick off enemy soldiers from a concealed place. One who shoots at other people from a concealed place. Source: The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth EditionCopyright © 2000 by Houghton Mifflin Company.Published by Houghton Mifflin Company. All rights reserved. Now you’ll note that this expanded definition is still quite general in it scope, after all anyone who squats behind bush to fire is a sniper which is not the case. So, since the dictionary has not resolved this we must consult the experts for a better definition of what makes a sniper in our chosen environment. It happens that I’ve had the opportunity to do just that from time to time in my 22 years in the Army. In summary here are the extreme basics of what is an effective sniper: · A superior marksman · Expert knowledge in the art camouflage for concealment · The ability to approach the target without being detected · Engage the target from beyond effective range of return fire · The ability to engage the target without revealing your position · The ability to egress the area after successfully engaging the target without being positively identified and engaged The first three of these points are possible in the game of paintball, but do not make you a sniper, they just take some training and practice. Let’s look at them one at a time. A superior marksman Basically someone who’s shooting skills are well above that of the average player. No big problem here, skill levels very, some people are just plain better than others. Expert knowledge in the art camouflage for concealment This one is a little tougher. It takes knowledge of what will fool the eye into not seeing what is really there. It’s still doable though. Trained military have an advantage over the someone whose camouflage skills are solely based on hunting. Not because the non-military hunter is any less skilled but because of who the camouflage is intended to fool. But once armed with the knowledge of what the differences are this isn’t even a problem. So, yes this can be effectively applied to paintball. The ability to approach the target without being detected This one is a bigger problem. If just taken as being able to move close enough to a player that is already in place to make your shot undetected is very difficult. Since instinctively humans are hunters, our attention is automatically drawn to movement or things that are out of place. It’s takes someone that is extremely skilled in moving undected to pull this one off. But I have seen it done. I should add to this the ability to setup a position that provides an undetected position from which to shoot that covers an area you expect your opponent to move through. A basic ambush. Both require an undetected shooting position and can be effectively applied to paintball depending on skill level The last three points are where the concept of a sniper in paintball fails. Engage the target from beyond effective range of return fire No matter what you do, as long as everyone has the same approximate muzzle velocity, everyone has about the same effective range. Yes, that means Flatlines too. While Flatlines do have the ability, do to an aerodynamic backspin, shoot farther than other barrel systems the paintball still loses velocity at the same rate. What this means is that a paintball from a flatline loses the energy to break its shell at the same rate as one fired from a conventional barrel. The advantage of the flatline is initial flat trajectory that paintball has, which allows someone to fire under foliage that would otherwise break the ball. (The first failed point in being an effective sniper) The ability to engage the target without revealing your position Since the effective range is around 20-25m means that when you fire you have effectively revealed your general position. What I mean is this. Your shooting from such a close range that either the pop of your ball leaving the barrel or the sound of your bolt cycling (or both) will give your general position away to anyone with average hearing as far away as 40m. Unless you are only engaging 1 or 2 people or are extremely lucking you yourself can now be effectively counted as a mission kill. (The second failed point in being an effective sniper) The ability to egress the area after successfully engaging the target without being positively identified and engaged What this means is the ability move to a new shooting position after having engaged a target without being detected and counter-engaged your self. Since it’s been demonstrated that you can’t effectively engage a target without revealing your initial shooting position and exposing yourself to effective counter fire this one automatically fails. (The third failed point in being an effective sniper) Now just because you can’t effectively apply all of the above tactics of what makes an effective sniper doesn’t mean that the first 3 listed can’t be applied to paintball. Do they make you a sniper? No. But they do give you the ability to setup an effective close ambush. Just a word of advice here, bring along several friends and you might even be effective at it. |
Posted By: Menohl
Date Posted: 10 June 2004 at 12:08pm
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Excellent post, its nice to see an educated opinion in the argument for once, although i will slightly disagree with you on the last 2 points.
The ability to engage the target without revealing your position There are a few barrels out there that are considerably quieter than others, and if using them in conjunction with only firing 2-3 rounds MAX you can conceal your position. I myself use a J&J Ceramic Barrel and have had many people comment on the fact that unless they were right on top of me they could barely hear it, and could not pinpoint my location. There have been many times where i've fired 2 rounds and taken out my mark, and suddenly his teammates rush to the spot i hit him and blidly law down grazing fire in the general direction that i'm located at. There have even been times where they've shot at a completly different area then where i was it alltogether. The ability to egress the area after successfully engaging the target without being positively identified and engaged Following what i said for your 5th point. If you have used a quiet barrel and only shot 2-3 rounds, and you are in a situation like i've just described, you can use conceled movement to egress the area and move to your next shooing point. I do it alot, where i've shot one, the rest of the team are blidly shooting in my area, and i egress move to a new point, and take out another one. Now obviously alot of this is dependant as you said on how well you can move without detection, but i'm in the military and have quite a bit of expierience at camoflague and evasion tactics, so alot of this comes naturally to me now. Also the other major factor is how quiet you marker is, if you marker is loud this ain't going to work. and finally, the terrain is always going to be a huge factor in whether or not this is going to work. The bottom line is your expierience at stealth, your marker, and the terrain will always determine whether sniping is possible on a woods field, sometimes it will work, sometimes it will not. -------------
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Posted By: oldsoldier
Date Posted: 10 June 2004 at 6:42pm
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First off, the first mistake you are making as an amateur is assuming since you are in the military this comes "naturally". Infantry for 23years and I still work on the skills, and if you are not trained and or have operated in the "ways of old" the new military no longer teaches the fundimentals of what we learned years ago. Close Combat is totally and real bullets are totally differant than what most of todays military is trained for, and Small Unit Tactics unless you are a Ranger, or Recon is a forgotten art.
Second....no matter how quiet you marker is, a good "reaction drill" will quickly identify and isolate said shooter if he is dumb enough to fire more than one round. Sound no matter how faint can be isolated with the second shot, and an expierienced leaders first question if he is on the recieving end is "Where would I be to shoot me here" and wala there you are, for paintball markers have very limited fields of fire and fire lanes since they can not cut brush and need more of an arc to accomplish range. |
Posted By: oreomann33
Date Posted: 10 June 2004 at 6:48pm
| you can go and wait for 2 hours for someone to walk buy and try to hit them or you could have fun and get in the action. |
Posted By: Justice
Date Posted: 10 June 2004 at 6:52pm
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I hate it when pple think that just because they only have 20 posts means they are a n00b. Hate to burst your bubble but Im sure theyre are players out their that have played for years and only visit this site once in a great while. Ive talked to multi year vets of paintball and I mentioned these forums and they have never heard of them. Post count does not equal pro or newb. Get over yourself. Back on subject, yes I believe there are snipers in paintball as by definition. Have a nice day. ------------- 
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Posted By: †Sniper†
Date Posted: 10 June 2004 at 6:53pm
If you can find a paintball gun that fires three shots without being heard, then you deserve to be called a sniper. |
Posted By: ghostguy6
Date Posted: 10 June 2004 at 7:02pm
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LOL I sit in the bush in a ghillies suit and get mostly 1 shot kills, however I do move around the field. I dont camp and wait for the target, I go hunt them. I sit in wait only while im lining up my shot and while i wait to mercy people( cheap players who need a little humiliation) I have been stepped on while hidding and the other team didnt know I was there until i shot 2 of them in the back ------------- 
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Posted By: †Sniper†
Date Posted: 10 June 2004 at 7:10pm
umm k...you must play with blind people... |
Posted By: jigglydude
Date Posted: 10 June 2004 at 8:19pm
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Posted By: ItIsWhatItIs
Date Posted: 10 June 2004 at 8:29pm
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why do these thread still continue?
Why cant it be settle for once? I vote yes!!! ------------- It Is What It Is A-5 R/T Flatline Polished Internals |
Posted By: metal_monster87
Date Posted: 10 June 2004 at 8:39pm
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NO SUCH THING AS PAINTBALL SNIPERS!!!!!! ------------- http://punisher87.mypicgallery.com/mpg/Route.asp |
Posted By: †Sniper†
Date Posted: 10 June 2004 at 8:40pm
such a valid argument. I particulary enjoyed reading your third point. Oh wait...  support it dude |
Posted By: Paintball Panda
Date Posted: 10 June 2004 at 8:41pm
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I Agree with you... I tryed that hiding stuff its fun for the first five sec. but then you get bored... and if you miss that most important Shot then your S.O.L. And there are no "Snipers" just really great Ambushes... |
Posted By: Shut Down
Date Posted: 10 June 2004 at 8:41pm
So you ask our opinion and essentially call us ignorant for giving it to you? Rela mature...nice way of trolling, go back to living alone under your bridge. Edit- I love how one of your supports for an argument is "trust me". Good job, I'm sure you changed a lot of peoples' minds ------------- http://www.tippmann.com/players/forum/wwf77a/members.asp - !!**~~My Hate List~~**!! Yes, that means you too! Bill Gardner is ImpyKing's pimp! |
Posted By: oldsoldier
Date Posted: 11 June 2004 at 6:06am
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It is rather funny, a "kid" lecturing a few of us on the roots of the game. Since a few of us here have been playing since the beginning....when it was real paint, a tube of 10 balls cost $2.50 and your 12 gram got you 30 shots, but you still had CO2 left because we had SKILL, and did not need to repaint the woodline for a single hit.
And yes the game started as a "wargame" where we hunted each other, played "army" and had fun, tourneys were played in the woods, no fancy "clown suits", no corperate sponsors, no blow up doll cover, just a few people out having fun for the games sake, not what we have today. So lecture on there kid, you do not have a clue, and for those of us "older" folks who actually have a skill to referance what we speak of, we pretty much can say that the skill of sniping has little or no point of referance in this game. Just a bunch of kids with little self worth giving themselves a name to feel better about themselves and to believe in thier mind that they are just a little better than the troop next to em. Still have not heard or seen you sniper types differentiate between what you call sniping and standard one each infantry techniques as applied to the game. Lets see, I wear camo, I use a 40rd hopper, a 4oz bottle, and a WG65A1 and have a higher elimination rate than most, use cover and concealment to my advantage, use accurate select fire on my targets, and per most of my Teammates can "vanish" before thier eyes, and most importantly I "Lead by example", in front, that gentleman is the mark of an INFANTRYMAN, our motto is "Follow Me" as we advance foward, and as TEAM player, all the rest of this individual stuff is just crap. And when we do play when I do see our "Teams" ghillied wonder, or a claim that "I will snipe" from here, I immediate reduce my TEAMS foward combat power by the number of idiots with that perception and concept of play accordingly. And vice versa when we run into the enemy "loner" I can reduce the threat to my team by again the corresponding number of idiots with that perception. |
Posted By: SR_Crewchief
Date Posted: 11 June 2004 at 6:46am
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Menohl,
As OS pointed out, your not the only trooper out here. I retired last year with 22 years service. No I'm not infantry ora trained sniper like OS and others, but I am a trained NCO. That means that I'm versed in basic small unit tactics and can teach the same, and that is all that is really needed to organize an effect presensce of the paintball field. Not putting you down, just putting a couple of things into perspective. Now about quiet shooting. Yes, the J&J is relatively quiet. But if you've taken 2-3 shots and haven't been localized by the group your shooting at I'd call that either luck or lack of disipline and skill on the part of your opposition. I have both the Armson Stealth and the J&J Ceramic. I wouldn't expect to not be localized if I were to take 2-3 shots from within effective range. I will grant that if you can avoid being localized after taking your shot, for what ever reason, and the opposition isn't beating the bushing looking for you, you've got about an even chance of egressing. I wouldn't count on that happening everything though, not even the majority of the time. The only real flaw I see in your arguement is that it appears that you expect to face opponents with little or no tactical skills. What you should be doing is operating with the idea that you'll be facing equal or superior skills while working to bring your teammates skills up at the same time. In the ambush that you described, wouldn't it have been more effective if you were part of a fire team or short squad instead of being an individual? What I'm getting at is teach a small group to work as a team. Learn how to set effective hasty ambushes as a group instead of looking for the optimal location for an individual. By doing it this way it makes each of you more effective. It doesn't heard that it's also a lot more fun! ;) For most of the rest of you, Menohl made an intelligent reply. He commented on what he sees as wrong in my post, but he also supported his arguement with why. That is what this forum is supposed to be about. An exchange of ideas to help make this game better. Instead of making the standard "Yo Mama" and "trust me" posts/replies, think it through, write it down, and support it. You will gain a lot more respect doing it that why. Try to use supportable facts and knowledge instead of opinion. |
Posted By: creeping death
Date Posted: 11 June 2004 at 8:01am
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of coarse there are snipers, my grandfather was "sniper" or sharp shooter back in the day ------------- -Eric |
Posted By: ghostguy6
Date Posted: 11 June 2004 at 8:42am
It's basically a homemade version of the progressive 14" with a slight bend similar to the flatlines to add about an extra 60ft of travel. It was a b*tch to make but it was sure worth it. Ill post some pics when I get it back from being anodized -------------
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Posted By: Sarge14
Date Posted: 11 June 2004 at 9:44am
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OS, you swithched from Tippmann to Armotech? I really enjoy reading these types of threads it gives me a better sense of the game when Old Soldier explains What paintball is really about. And what it isnt. ------------- Nothing is Stronger than the Heart of a Volunteer Proud to be a Soldier in the United States Army! Commo Leads the Way!! |
Posted By: S\/\/4T-L()G4N
Date Posted: 11 June 2004 at 10:02am
Right... Ok, there is a DVD about it. Once again, there are many santa DVD's out there, and guess what? He still doesn't exist. "fer those who still won't believe it." There is a very good reason behind this though. Its a one sided arguement really. The only person that has intellegently argued for snipers is Menohl. All the other people fighting for snipers is just throwing in random arguements. The arguements are just like their "sniper" tactics. They are loner points. THis is gonna sound really dumb, but they argue like they play paintball, alone. Notice all the anti-sniper points go along with the discussion and they are all working as a team. OS comes back with his long posts refuting yours, and then other people back him up. OS backs other people up with his extensive knowledge. Most of the reasons for snipers in here are so random that I have no idea where they came from. I do  Manohl though for his efforts.------------- 
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Posted By: stealth stalker
Date Posted: 11 June 2004 at 10:35am
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Snipers r what paintball is made around. If there were no snipers in paintball, it would be speed ball
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Posted By: KICKINKEV
Date Posted: 11 June 2004 at 10:42am
| yes, i believe there are snipers cause i am one, i think it would be heard to be a sniper in paintball tho, cause the guns wont be accurate enough to hit the target from a far distance away without shooting alot and wasting paintballs |
Posted By: ghostguy6
Date Posted: 11 June 2004 at 11:41am
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i have 6 years of "tactical experiance" so I learned to hide well, there is a reason my name is "ghostguy" If you want to learn how to hide the biggest thing you must to is look at your surroundings and use them to your advantage. If you want to be a sniper think " Where do you have the best shot? Do you have lots of cover and an easy escape if things do go wrong? If i sit there will something look out of place? Is this a common place to hide that will be easily noticed as a "sniper hole"? Be tactful hiding by a tree does not make you a sniper! one of the best things I have learned is to hide in plain sight, its the last place they will look. When you play, I bet you scan the tree line, but how many of you scan the big open field with 8"'s of grass in it? if you do it right the grass is much more effective than the trees especially if your opponent is alone and not hunting for you in packs of 2 or more. BE PATIENT!!!! As soon as you see the enemy dot take the shot! wait until you know you will hit him without being seen! Fire one shot and one shot only! it is much harder to zero in one the sound if no one is expecting it, as soon as you fire the second shot the enemy knows you are in the area and WILL be looking for you -------------
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Posted By: Shut Down
Date Posted: 11 June 2004 at 11:49am
Your logic, reasoning, and lessons are not so much bad and/or stupid as they are...astounding and mind-numbing. ------------- http://www.tippmann.com/players/forum/wwf77a/members.asp - !!**~~My Hate List~~**!! Yes, that means you too! Bill Gardner is ImpyKing's pimp! |
Posted By: S\/\/4T-L()G4N
Date Posted: 11 June 2004 at 12:45pm
Thats funny, all of the other sniper threads go against what you are saying. Every other sniper that has argued has said that they don't use cover, they use concealment. So you tell me the difference between the two and why I should believe you over all the other snipers. -------------
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Posted By: ghostguy6
Date Posted: 11 June 2004 at 1:42pm
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"Six years and you haven't moved beyond the basics..." I said I have 6 years of tactical eperiance, by no means did I say it was as a sniper. What I wrote was from my personal experiances not from some website. Im not going to go into the more advanced stuff because quite frankly I dont think anyone here can see my reason of thinking. From what Ive read here most of the so called snipers are 14 or 15 year olds who have watched to many movies and played to many video games "So hiding in the open does make you a sniper? It's the first place you look, the eye is drawn to open areas numb nuts. Im saying if you conceal yourself in the open you have less of a chance of being spotted because most people take a quick glance over the open areas, think nothing is there then forget about it and move on, then concentate on the areas were you have more places to hide in "Thats funny, all of the other sniper threads go against what you are saying. Every other sniper that has argued has said that they don't use cover, they use concealment. So you tell me the difference between the two and why I should believe you over all the other snipers." your right I should have used concealment insted of cover, but remember that cover does = concealment "This is also called common sense" being a sniper is mostly using your head, any idiot can pull the trigger! -------------
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" Posted By: oldsoldier
Date Posted: 11 June 2004 at 2:40pm
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Cover- protection from direct enemy fire
Concealment- protection against observation Cover does not neccesarily equal concealment, you can be behind cover ie a depression in an open field protected from enemy fire, and not concealed, or you be behind a "bush" in a concealed position which will not protect you from direct fire. The art and trick to the skill is finding a position that provides both. That is where proper training and application sorts out the skilled from the amateur wanna-be...the simple mistakes in application based on their perceptions, not what is required. The skill of a sniper has many facetts that most if not almost all of you a clueless about, only your "hollywood" perception of the skill. |
Posted By: Shut Down
Date Posted: 11 June 2004 at 2:58pm
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I believe that...*pukes* Anyway, hiding in the open makes egress very difficault...oh, yeah, you just contradicted yourself. Need an egress route...but concealing in the open...harder to get cover to egress...ouch. Someone's tactics don't line-up here...something reeks...
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Posted By: Sarge14
Date Posted: 11 June 2004 at 3:33pm
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OS, I am coming to this years TWC Primarily just to meet you. And play paintball. ------------- Nothing is Stronger than the Heart of a Volunteer Proud to be a Soldier in the United States Army! Commo Leads the Way!! |
Posted By: evil_fingers
Date Posted: 11 June 2004 at 4:00pm
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Snipers do exsist in paintball...there are 3 kinds....woodsball, speedball and scenarios and they all use the same type of equipment...in speedball the back players doesnt only give the front players covering fire and of course not using a scope...they take out the opposing team members jus like what a sniper would do so the front players can move on to the next objective like a bunker.....woodsball snipers are very different....woodsball snipers use stealth, like sittin in a clump of bushes in a wooded area when the opposing team walks right passed him and they dont realize that one of the other team members is jus a few feet away and is ready to lay a barrage of paint and without using a scope...and theres also another kind of paintball sniper...those who claim they can take out anyone from a 100 ft. away wit a paintball gun by using a scope whether or not if the field is wooded or flat....these individuals are called wannabe's, cus the majority knows that type of sniping doesnt work at all. And btw,.....Im givin up on this thread...its gettin palyed out. ------------- Do not steal....the government hates competition!
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Posted By: Shut Down
Date Posted: 11 June 2004 at 4:19pm
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Like cuss on the internet? Wow, U R KEWL! ------------- http://www.tippmann.com/players/forum/wwf77a/members.asp - !!**~~My Hate List~~**!! Yes, that means you too! Bill Gardner is ImpyKing's pimp! |
Posted By: DeathFromAfar
Date Posted: 11 June 2004 at 4:34pm
| using **'s to hide the word is just as bad as actually using the word. |
Posted By: tippyMx770
Date Posted: 11 June 2004 at 4:46pm
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no ------------- Tippmann 98c 14 in whisper barrel toxic performance trigger rico ak modded trigger chrome flame drop 
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Posted By: oldsoldier
Date Posted: 11 June 2004 at 5:34pm
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Do any of you professed "snipers" understand the concept of "fire and maneauver", "direct fire support", "base of fire" or any other concepts of small unit tactics........snipers are useless, in this game, a good "god gun" acting as a high firepower "machinegun" is 250% more effective than our hide and hope wanna-be.
Read some tactical manuals, adapt the techniques described, and understand the fundimentals before you follow a flawed concept. |
Posted By: †Sniper†
Date Posted: 11 June 2004 at 5:40pm
We have a winner! Oh wait...everyone with common sense already came to that conclusion months, even years ago... |
Posted By: jigglydude
Date Posted: 11 June 2004 at 6:45pm
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Posted By: Shut Down
Date Posted: 11 June 2004 at 7:01pm
Perhaps you need to re-read the rules... adding astriks or any other symbol does not change it...and it's not funny, seeing as nobody else was laughing. ------------- http://www.tippmann.com/players/forum/wwf77a/members.asp - !!**~~My Hate List~~**!! Yes, that means you too! Bill Gardner is ImpyKing's pimp! |
Posted By: †Sniper†
Date Posted: 11 June 2004 at 7:14pm
/me punches stealth in the face |
Posted By: mercenary4hire
Date Posted: 11 June 2004 at 7:43pm
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alot of people will say no cause markers have a short range. range is important, but not as important as the ability to move silently. This is effective when done right, but few in paintball know how to do it right and call themselves snipers because they think its cool after seeing enemy at the gates or sniper. ------------- model 98 lp kit vigilante reg polished internals drilled feedneck dye stickies hammerhead 14" barrel sling paintjob sureshot sight Ricochet AK hopper a whole lot of skill |
Posted By: Shut Down
Date Posted: 11 June 2004 at 7:49pm
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And I'm sure you are one of the few that does it right... ------------- http://www.tippmann.com/players/forum/wwf77a/members.asp - !!**~~My Hate List~~**!! Yes, that means you too! Bill Gardner is ImpyKing's pimp! |
Posted By: †Sniper†
Date Posted: 11 June 2004 at 7:53pm
I'm sure you are the epitome of stealth. Stalking through the woods unseen, listening to the ragged and unawares breath of your prey before you strike with your godlike skill. go home. |
Posted By: oldsoldier
Date Posted: 11 June 2004 at 7:53pm
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Again...why do the "sniper" crowd think that they are the only ones who "sneak" or use "stealth" on the field. I guess the rest of us travel with a brass band and flags waving just so we get noticed. Get a clue folks.....Small Unit Tactics, INFANTRYMAN basic one each, nothing special, nothing high speed, in our game a good player using BASIC INFANTRYMAN tactics and techniques does all that you all seem to feel is so special. We use camoflauge, cover, and concealment, we move using techniques wherein not to get noticed, and or observed, we use select, accurate, direct fire upon our targets, NOTHING SPECIAL THERE FOLKS......BASIC INFANTRY
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Posted By: GunSamuri
Date Posted: 11 June 2004 at 10:36pm
you get up and do something with you life? dont you mean you SIT ON YOU BUT AND TRY TO SNIPE?lol me on the other hand i play paintball with my life.... ------------- Tippmann A5 Flatline Barrel Egrip W/DF Trigger 6 stage X chamber Rear Velocity Adjuster Yea I may be Cocky but I have the skills to back it up :P |
Posted By: GunSamuri
Date Posted: 11 June 2004 at 10:38pm
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btw old soilder i love you your my new idol lol jk ------------- Tippmann A5 Flatline Barrel Egrip W/DF Trigger 6 stage X chamber Rear Velocity Adjuster Yea I may be Cocky but I have the skills to back it up :P |
Posted By: PaintballWizard
Date Posted: 11 June 2004 at 10:52pm
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Posted By: Menohl
Date Posted: 12 June 2004 at 1:21am
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It has become blatantly obvious to me that I should have never spoken in the first place about pro-paintball-snipers. Several people have pointed out that since I am somewhat new to the forum and have under 100 posts that I am a newb, and therefore should be treated like a stupid paintball newbie who thinks he's the bomb...
I would like to thank several people for helping me to reach this decision (excuse me if some of these are sarcastic): †Sniper† - for misquoting me, and by misquoting me, making me look like I said that I have a barrel for my marker that makes no sound whatsoever... Next time I would appreciate it if you are to quote me, that you quote what I said, not what you edited of what I said to try to make your point. SR_Crewchief - Thank you for bringing the subject up in the hopes of an honest and intelligent conversation, and thank you for speaking up on my behalf for giving an honest and intelligent answer. I'm just sorry that you didn't get what you wished. S\/\/4T-L()G4N - For being the only other person to not bash me for giving my personal opinion about a topic, and recognizing that we all have opinions, and that everyone isn't going to agree all the time, but that doesn’t mean we have to bash those that do disagree. and finally to oldsoldier - Thank you for reminding me that your 23 years of infantry service have made you so omnipotent that you can pass judgment on your brothers in arms so fast. allow me to quote you: First off, the first mistake you are making as an amateur is assuming since you are in the military this comes "naturally". Infantry for 23years and I still work on the skills, I would assume that with your extensive training and experience that you would not underestimate another military member especially when you don't know their experience... but then again, I’m new to the forum... so therefore I’m some new-to-paintball-and-the-military dork who is more than worthy of your verbal abuse. I've been serving my country for over ten years, which is just as long as I’ve been playing paintball, and it honestly saddens me to see a vet bagging on an active duty member for the sake of status in an online forum to impress people who you don't know and will never meet. I just hope it makes you sleep better at night. I may not have served as long as you, but i am pround of what i do for my country as i hope you are for what you did, and i would just hope that you could even slighty understand how angered i am at your comments to myself. Believe in snipers or don't, be one or don't. Don't let anyone else bring you down for you playing technique. I'll see you all at the Tippmann World Challenge in September. -------------
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Posted By: The Guy
Date Posted: 12 June 2004 at 1:30am
Hey now. I love being the center of attention on the paintball field. It draws attention away from my teammates. Its fun dancing in a clearing while people lob balls from WAY out of range hoping for some magical lucky break off my gun or something. ------------- http://www.anomationanodizing.com - My Site 
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Posted By: †Sniper†
Date Posted: 12 June 2004 at 7:44am
ehh...I didn't miquote you, I quoted the part of your argument that I disagreed with...
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Posted By: mercenary4hire
Date Posted: 12 June 2004 at 9:02am
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Posted By: mercenary4hire
Date Posted: 12 June 2004 at 9:05am
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Posted By: Aggie
Date Posted: 12 June 2004 at 10:23pm
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I don't want to know the debate... So I'll say, I believe in Snipers!
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Posted By: GunSamuri
Date Posted: 12 June 2004 at 10:39pm
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dude mercenary I never said someone is a newb if they just joined the forum I said hes a newb because of his arguments I just pointed out that he was new to the forum because it helps make the fact that hes a newb all the more obvious. Look KNOW the roots ok heres your history lesson: paintball was developed by bored forest rangers who used their tree markers to start shooting each other in the early 80s I believe. warpig along with many other sites have it posted? now lets clear some things up i DO believe in paintball snipers except not in the same context as you people do. but <poopy>DOES THE ROOTS HAVE TO DO WITH SNIPERING? NOTHING!!! deathfromafar is an idiot and he should learn the roots before he goes making arguments about paintballs roots. btw I believe a paintball sniper is anyone who "snipers" people not from long range or a concealed poition but from a point of vantage because thats what a sniper is look it up it means shooting from a point of vantage, many snipers in the military ect the specific special forces sniper dont use high powered sniper rifles or scopes they just sit on a rooftop with an assult rifle and shoot at other enemy soilders whos wepons have about the same range as theirs its about the same in paintball go to a pointof vantage and light someone up thats in range. It cant be someone whos stealthy because every paintball player should be and it cant be someone who can hit in one shot or from long range because all guns have the same range (except flatline which isnt accurate) and even with a very accurate gun I would pay to see someone hit a person at 300ft with 1 shot its just not statistically possible. but going to a vantage point and lighting someone up with your marker is very possible. btw i dont to me paintball snipering is really not possible in speedball becaise its basically a firefight with no real concealed position or points of vantage. ------------- Tippmann A5 Flatline Barrel Egrip W/DF Trigger 6 stage X chamber Rear Velocity Adjuster Yea I may be Cocky but I have the skills to back it up :P |
Posted By: jigglydude
Date Posted: 12 June 2004 at 11:07pm
and arnt bunkers non see through solid objects large enough for a player to hide behind? isnt that concealed? a player can sneak halfway down the field by using the snake just like they could use brush. very quiet guns and blind spots on the field allow players to remain hidden in the confusion of speedball, just like they could in a fire fight in woods ball |
Posted By: Salem
Date Posted: 13 June 2004 at 12:38am
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why do i even bother but i guess I will. ur telling me a sniper shoots opponets form a concealed location and doesnt get caught. well expain to me how anyone could miss the signs of a sniper. ok me and my squad are moving through the woods. suddenly a buddy of mine gets shot out. now lets check what evidence we have to find you. 1.the splat. just by looking at my friend i can get a general direction that your in. 2. the sound-if were within range, your gun is within earshot. another indicator of direction. 3. the cloud of white c02- thats a dead give away buddy. its going to be hovering right at your location. okay all of the above is ways we use to find you. annd thats assuming that your very good at camoflaugeing yourself and I didnt spot your gun or mask. okay after taking your shot you have 2 options. turn and run (in which case your shot immediaetly. or 2 sit tight. assuming you sit tight i can use the above evidence to track you down. which wont be hard because your probably behind/in a brushpile/bush. and just by using our evidence before we'll be able to narrow the options to 1 or 2 piles of brush unless were playing in ungodly thick woods. so now it would be very simple to decide where you are. surround you using supressive fire, and light you up for bein so dumb. so if we were playing in extremely thick woods and you managed to shoot me/ my buddy, we must have left ourselves standing in a clearing or something. in which case we desrve to be sniper by a noob sniper wanna be -Kasey ------------- 
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Posted By: oldsoldier
Date Posted: 13 June 2004 at 6:31am
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Lions, and Tigers, and Bears, Oh MY..........again
I was a TRAINED MILITARY SNIPER had the MOS the School and everything, and I say they are NO SNIPERS IN PAINTBALL....so there (with hands on hips and a pouty face) Only arguement you amateurs understand...facts, tactics, training, all mean nothing to a child with a "perception" and a "I am better than all of you" mentality, and still for the life of them do not UNDERSTAND the simple concept of TEAMWORK..... No Problem, Reigns of Ruin July 31 to Aug 1, Joliet Il, I along with OMHW will be there, I am the General for the HUMAN side, PLEASE all your sniper wanna-bes....be there prove it to us, show us, hiding behind a keyboard armed with a concept is one thing....... Oh and by the way I am a fighting General, I don't hide at the HQ, I LEAD BY EXAMPLE, a true INFANTRYMAN armed with skill, talents and a TEAM. But alas here come the excuses, mom won't let me, too far to go, to expensive, as our Snipers again "hide" behind their frail egos, armed only with a concept. |
Posted By: MarkS9542
Date Posted: 13 June 2004 at 7:50am
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Well if your the sniper your a waist of paint balls if u got a gun and u think its really accurate and u call it a "sniper gun" then the move up, the more u move closer to ur opponant the more accuracy u will have. Usually snipers are the ones afraid of being hit. ------------- New Dye DM4 Matrix Blue pic Pasted on Freak barrel Empty Box of paintballs |
Posted By: Hide>n<seeK
Date Posted: 13 June 2004 at 8:26am
why cant people just drop the whole "sniper's are real or not" subject
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Posted By: mercenary4hire
Date Posted: 13 June 2004 at 10:40am
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Posted By: firerz05
Date Posted: 13 June 2004 at 11:35am
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In speedball there are deffinately not snipers, theres only back players, and they usualy dump paint left and right. ------------- 
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Posted By: Shut Down
Date Posted: 13 June 2004 at 12:43pm
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If everyone wnats it dropped so bad...why do you keep brining it to the top? ------------- http://www.tippmann.com/players/forum/wwf77a/members.asp - !!**~~My Hate List~~**!! Yes, that means you too! Bill Gardner is ImpyKing's pimp! |