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Topic: Lapco bigshot 12"
Posted By: D-ballz
Subject: Lapco bigshot 12"
Date Posted: 10 June 2004 at 10:23pm

i just got my Lapco Bigshot today.  and honesty im not that impressed. people say the barrel shoots completely straight all the way until the balls hits the ground, ha nit mine.  i shot and it doesnt even go that straight.  i shoot and the balls goes somwhat straight then curves.   then  a ball broke in the barrel.    but there was a little wind, but wasnt to bad.

i was using PMI RPS balls,   are those the right size?  cuz i must be doing somthing wrong,   i sure hope i didnt spend 55 bucks on some crap barrel.

 



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98c
Lapco Bigshot 12"
blowback vents
and soon to get-
remote
Stock
Polished internals



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Posted By: pntbl freak
Date Posted: 10 June 2004 at 10:26pm

I have had really good success with that barrel.

So check to make sure there is no scratches or junk on the inside of the barrel.

Also make sure that the paint isnt old and doesnt have dimples or soft spots.



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Posted By: maroon out
Date Posted: 10 June 2004 at 10:27pm
It's definatly not a crap barrel.


Make sure your velocity isn't too high.

Was your paint old?

Was your paint too big? Try blowing one through the barrel, it should go through fairly easily.

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Posted By: D-ballz
Date Posted: 10 June 2004 at 10:29pm

i put a ball in and it went like an inch, then i tyed to blow, but the air just went around the sides of ball, and i couldnt get it out,  so i had to puch it back out from other end.

but i thought PMI was the right size paintballs for lapco bigshot

the paint isnt old, the barrel is complety smooth,  



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98c
Lapco Bigshot 12"
blowback vents
and soon to get-
remote
Stock
Polished internals


Posted By: maroon out
Date Posted: 10 June 2004 at 10:31pm
Paint will vary in size from case to case.

Try some different paint.

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Posted By: benttwig33
Date Posted: 10 June 2004 at 10:39pm
oil your barrel

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Posted By: wonk22
Date Posted: 10 June 2004 at 10:42pm
a ball broke in the barrel?...or did you chop it?...the night i got my bigshot there was no wind and i was shoting 20 yards away at a tree and the balls were in a really...i mean in a really tight pattern

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Posted By: D-ballz
Date Posted: 10 June 2004 at 10:44pm

well i wasnt shooting fast,  i think the ball broke in barrel



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98c
Lapco Bigshot 12"
blowback vents
and soon to get-
remote
Stock
Polished internals


Posted By: D-ballz
Date Posted: 10 June 2004 at 10:46pm

but there was a little wind,    still i went into the woods and it still didnt shoot that straight,



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98c
Lapco Bigshot 12"
blowback vents
and soon to get-
remote
Stock
Polished internals


Posted By: mod98commando
Date Posted: 10 June 2004 at 10:48pm
Originally posted by D-ballz D-ballz wrote:

i put a ball in and it went like an inch, then i tyed to blow, but the air just went around the sides of ball, and i couldnt get it out,  so i had to puch it back out from other end. but i thought PMI was the right size paintballs for lapco bigshot...

The paint is a bit small for the bigshot if that's the case. Since it's small and air can get around it easily, it's not unlikely that accuracy is lost. If the air can get around the ball it can mess with the trajectory and throw it way off target. You also won't get consistent velocities or range between shots because of the poor seal the ball makes with the barrel. If you can find some bigger paint you'll probably see better results. My bigshot works extremely well with most paint but there are some brands that even the bigshot doesn't really work well with. RPS paint is generally good but the different types vary in size so some are better than others. I like RPS paint for the strong shells and consistently sized paint but it is kind of small, I'd rather use them on my flatline where small paint is desired. I used to use proball until the stores around here stopped selling it and then I started using draxxus midnight and blaze a lot. I also use PMI premium sometimes. When I use the flatline though I almost always go for marbs.



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Posted By: D-ballz
Date Posted: 10 June 2004 at 10:59pm
ok just of curiousty,  are you supose to oil barrels? 

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98c
Lapco Bigshot 12"
blowback vents
and soon to get-
remote
Stock
Polished internals


Posted By: maroon out
Date Posted: 10 June 2004 at 11:02pm
Originally posted by benttwig33 benttwig33 wrote:

oil your barrel


....or don't

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Posted By: maroon out
Date Posted: 10 June 2004 at 11:08pm
Found this in a topic in repair and maintinance:


Originally posted by Rednekk Rednekk wrote:

I see posts like this a lot, and I had a similar reaction when I got my bigshot. Appearently there was a light oil coating in the barrel(crappy paint will build up oil too) causing uneven friction and making the balls take on weird spins. I washed it with hot, soapy water, rinsed it(running it through the dishwasher would prolly work too), and ran a swab soaked with rubbing alcohol through it a few times, let it dry, got it again with a dry swab. Switched to some quality, fresh, paint, and there was the accuracy improvement I was looking for. I just clean it like that after every day of playing, especially if I get a ball break.


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Watch your thoughts they become words
Watch your words they become actions
Watch your actions they become habits
Watch your habits they become character
Watch your character it becomes your destin


Posted By: D-ballz
Date Posted: 10 June 2004 at 11:08pm
so em i supose to oil my barrel or not?

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98c
Lapco Bigshot 12"
blowback vents
and soon to get-
remote
Stock
Polished internals


Posted By: maroon out
Date Posted: 10 June 2004 at 11:13pm
No.

Oiling your barrel will only make your accuracy WORSE.

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Watch your thoughts they become words
Watch your words they become actions
Watch your actions they become habits
Watch your habits they become character
Watch your character it becomes your destin


Posted By: D-ballz
Date Posted: 10 June 2004 at 11:17pm
so anyother ideas on what im doing wrong,  cuz other wise im sending the barrel back

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98c
Lapco Bigshot 12"
blowback vents
and soon to get-
remote
Stock
Polished internals


Posted By: D-ballz
Date Posted: 10 June 2004 at 11:32pm

i think its got to be the paint im using,  cuz why would i break a ball?

what paints do u recomend the best for Lapco Bigshot?

 



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98c
Lapco Bigshot 12"
blowback vents
and soon to get-
remote
Stock
Polished internals


Posted By: Paintball Panda
Date Posted: 10 June 2004 at 11:36pm
what paint are you using??? Draxxus Blaze fit that barrel like a glove.


Posted By: D-ballz
Date Posted: 10 June 2004 at 11:38pm
i was using pmi rps  

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98c
Lapco Bigshot 12"
blowback vents
and soon to get-
remote
Stock
Polished internals


Posted By: D-ballz
Date Posted: 10 June 2004 at 11:42pm
so its comming down to eithier i had bad balls, or my volocity is to high or somthing.

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98c
Lapco Bigshot 12"
blowback vents
and soon to get-
remote
Stock
Polished internals


Posted By: TankDude
Date Posted: 10 June 2004 at 11:49pm
i use midnights throught my big shot 14'' all the time. I LOVE IT shoots really nice. big ball also shoots nice through it. never tried any pmi paint

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Posted By: D-ballz
Date Posted: 11 June 2004 at 12:22am
what brand is midnights?  or is that the brand

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98c
Lapco Bigshot 12"
blowback vents
and soon to get-
remote
Stock
Polished internals


Posted By: dayofdefeat2010
Date Posted: 11 June 2004 at 12:30am

Diablo

http://actionvillage.com/paintball-paintballs-and-paint-grenades-diablo-paintballs-diablo-midnight-paintballs.html">Diablo Midnight Paintballs
pad http://actionvillage.com/paintball-paintballs-and-paint-grenades-diablo-paintballs-diablo-midnight-paintballs.html - Diablo Midnight Paintballs
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Posted By: D-ballz
Date Posted: 11 June 2004 at 10:56am

will a little wind affect the ball?  cuz there was some wind when i shoot, just a little.

and i think it is my paintballs  because why would i have a ball break?

i  wish i had a chrono so i could see what my volocity is set at

other wise if i cant figure out what im doing wrong, i might have to get rid of the barrel 



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98c
Lapco Bigshot 12"
blowback vents
and soon to get-
remote
Stock
Polished internals


Posted By: pntbl freak
Date Posted: 11 June 2004 at 11:06am

Try some different paint, you might have gottin a bad box...

Also check your velocity, that could be a big problem.  With it to high it will affect your accuracy a lot.  With it being to low, your shot wont go a far as it should.



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Posted By: D-ballz
Date Posted: 11 June 2004 at 11:26am

well like i said before i dont have a chrono so how em i supose to know where my volocity is at?

wait. i have an idea.  if somone could screw there volocity screw all the way in, and count how many full turns (360 degrees) you have it at. so i could put mine the same.   i want somone to do this that knows there volocity is set perfect like 280 fbs or somthing



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98c
Lapco Bigshot 12"
blowback vents
and soon to get-
remote
Stock
Polished internals


Posted By: You Wont See Me
Date Posted: 11 June 2004 at 12:47pm
Originally posted by D-ballz D-ballz wrote:

well like i said before i dont have a chrono so how em i supose to know where my volocity is at?


wait. i have an idea.  if somone could screw there volocity screw all the way in, and count how many full turns (360 degrees) you have it at. so i could put mine the same.   i want somone to do this that knows there volocity is set perfect like 280 fbs or somthing

That wont work. The ONLY way to tell how fast your marker is shooting is to use a chrono. Go to a field and ask them if you can chrono your gun.

When I first put on my bigshot from the stock barrel i was shooting in the 400 fps. I had it around 280 with the stock barrel. So make sure you get it chrono'd.

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A-5
E-Grip
JCS Dual Trigger
DOP X-CORE 8 stage x-chamber
Lapco Bigshot 14" Beadblasted

Optional setup:
R/T
Dead on Blade trigger


Posted By: D-ballz
Date Posted: 11 June 2004 at 1:44pm

yea, i turned my volocity down a bit,  it shoot a little better, still i had ball curves.   but then my co2 tank went empty. grrrrr once i get my volocity set to whatever its supose to be set at, (i think its like 280) then ill have to buy some different paint.   most people say diablo is the best for the bigshot barrel. so i guess il get that.   then hopfully my gun will shoot straight.



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98c
Lapco Bigshot 12"
blowback vents
and soon to get-
remote
Stock
Polished internals


Posted By: You Wont See Me
Date Posted: 11 June 2004 at 1:45pm
Hope you figure this out.

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A-5
E-Grip
JCS Dual Trigger
DOP X-CORE 8 stage x-chamber
Lapco Bigshot 14" Beadblasted

Optional setup:
R/T
Dead on Blade trigger


Posted By: mod98commando
Date Posted: 11 June 2004 at 1:54pm

Originally posted by You Wont See Me You Wont See Me wrote:

...That wont work. The ONLY way to tell how fast your marker is shooting is to use a chrono. Go to a field and ask them if you can chrono your gun...

Exactly right. Changing the tank, barrel, or paint can change the velocity even if the velocity screw doesn't move at all. The reason is because of friction or pressure on the paint. Changing the paint can make the pressure change because the paint may be a different size and creates a better/worse seal with the barrel. Putting a different tank on or even just removing and putting the same tank back on can cause a variation as well, I've had it happen to me but I fixed it at the chrono before playing with it. Changing the barrel can affect velocity in two ways. The first is that it could be a different size and match the paint better or worse than the last barrel. The second is that the inside could be smoother or rougher than the last barrel and that means friction could be increased or decreased. An example of this would be with my SL-68II. When I put my ceramic on, it jumped up about 50 fps puttin it near 340 fps. If that's not enough of a reason to check with a chrono all the time then I don't know what is. I've also had my 98c, with the velocity screw all the way in, shooting around 300 fps. The velocity screw can move velocity up or down but it doesn't necessarily keep the velocity there all the time.



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oreomann33: Everybody invades Poland

Rofl_Mao: And everyone eats turkey

Me: But only if they're hungary

Mack: Yeah but hungary people go russian through their food and end up with greece on everyth


Posted By: stumpty
Date Posted: 11 June 2004 at 2:25pm
Why don't you clean like that one guy said on the first page.


Posted By: You Wont See Me
Date Posted: 11 June 2004 at 2:58pm
Putting oil in the barrel? That would ruin the accuracy/

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A-5
E-Grip
JCS Dual Trigger
DOP X-CORE 8 stage x-chamber
Lapco Bigshot 14" Beadblasted

Optional setup:
R/T
Dead on Blade trigger


Posted By: Bauerp0weR 18
Date Posted: 11 June 2004 at 3:25pm

Like others have said, don't oil up your barrel, that will just mess up your shots.  First off, make sure your paint is the right size and not too old otherwise that affects the performance.  The only sure way to pinpoint your velocity is by getting it chrono'd.  Go to any local field and they should be able to do that for you.  Also, because you are running on Co2, sometimes you get liquid Co2 into your gun and you get some velocity spikes that can mess up your shot.  I don't know if your accuracy was consistantly off or if it was just a few shots but to reduce velocity spikes you can get a x-chamber that catches the liquid Co2.

Make sure you do some troubleshooting first, and if all else fails, the only explaination I can think of is that the barrel is defective, which would be a shame since the BigShot is a really great barrel.

Hope this helps and good luck!



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