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Topic: Walking
Posted By: pballer90
Subject: Walking
Date Posted: 14 June 2004 at 2:36pm
I just got my double trigger.i am trying to walk it however it doesnt seem nearly as fast as just shooting it regularly.i have done a trigger stop mod and a clicky pen mod.the spring is as light as if there was no spring.also when i am trying to walk im do not have co2 in my gun.do i need a stronger spring or a even lighter spring or taking out the stop or gassing up my gun and testing it?



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Posted By: Kevin Z
Date Posted: 14 June 2004 at 2:47pm
Walking the trigger is nearly impossible with a mechanical trigger.

The characters you see getting megaBPS are using electronic triggers. The trigger is a microswitch with take-up and stop adjustments. With that kind of trigger you can walk super fast.

With a mechanical trigger, you have a double trigger that looks super cool, and that's about all it's good for.

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Posted By: pntbl freak
Date Posted: 14 June 2004 at 2:51pm
Yeah Kevin is right.  Its near impossible to walk a mechanical trigger.  The trigger is for looks and some feel more comfortable with it.

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Posted By: TippmannA5User
Date Posted: 14 June 2004 at 3:13pm
ditto, and to even attempt to walk a mech, you need CO2.

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Posted By: A-5 bunkerking
Date Posted: 14 June 2004 at 3:32pm
Their is only one person i know that can walk a mech gun, and thats evil-98. but he is god with making and customizing triggers, so he can do just about anything.


Posted By: warbeak2099
Date Posted: 14 June 2004 at 4:03pm
It's not impossible. People have been able to walk mech mags with the ULT and the Deadly Wind HAIR mod for mags is coming out. That'll bring the trigger pull down as low as 2oz. That's lighter than most electros! I'm thinkin it'll revolutionize the industry. I mean, a mech that can shoot faster than an electro? Sweet.

Ok, you want to walk your 98. Not gonna happen if you don't have the ebolt. Unless of course you figure some way to make the trigger pneumatic-operated like in a Deadly Wind HAIR. Now, even if you have an ebolt, you certainly need your gun to be gassed up to fire! With the ebolt, trigger stop, no spring and some adjustments to the roller switch, you'll probably be able to get some walkin going. But yes, gassing the gun up would definately help lol.    

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Posted By: ted.c0bb1es
Date Posted: 14 June 2004 at 4:17pm
practice

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Posted By: tyranny
Date Posted: 14 June 2004 at 4:25pm

Originally posted by ted.c0bb1es ted.c0bb1es wrote:

practice

finger weights  



Posted By: SnakeEyes
Date Posted: 14 June 2004 at 4:29pm
Originally posted by TippmannA5User TippmannA5User wrote:

ditto, and to even attempt to walk a mech, you need CO2.



Ummmmm, why?

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Posted By: iamjoseph58
Date Posted: 16 June 2004 at 12:01am

if you want to walk with a 2x trigger you need to have the e grip. um i dont think you can walk wih the r/t. alot of people think you can but it feels like it cause of the bounce of the respoce piston.



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Posted By: fdjizm
Date Posted: 16 June 2004 at 12:13am
i have the rt, and its hard to walk bcuz it double fires, but it i bring the screw to were the speed is the fastest the sweet spot is hard to find and i can walk the trigger really fast, i did it at the range, i maxed at 16bps, walking not sweet spotting it


Posted By: benttwig33
Date Posted: 16 June 2004 at 1:35am
^^dude...you cant walk a normal trigger...there is NO WAY ON EARTH you can walk a RT.

lol

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Posted By: benttwig33
Date Posted: 16 June 2004 at 1:36am
Originally posted by iamjoseph58 iamjoseph58 wrote:

if you want to walk with a 2x trigger you need to have the e grip. um i dont think you can walk wih the r/t. alot of people think you can but it feels like it cause of the bounce of the respoce piston.



i agree

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Posted By: speedballer560
Date Posted: 16 June 2004 at 9:34am
u basicilly have to have a ebolt or grip to even come close to walking

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Posted By: fdjizm
Date Posted: 16 June 2004 at 11:03am
wow, well then i must be crazy cuz i actually do walk my double trigger with my r/t...y would i make that up...


Posted By: Jibs98
Date Posted: 16 June 2004 at 11:22am
^^^ because you're bragging and u are stupid ^^^

o yea sorry bud but also i doesnt count when u have a sear to actuate the hammer and you have a 2 pound trigger pull to deal with.

maybe you're not walking your trigger as much as you're "stomping the ground really hard"...ing your trigger.


Posted By: fdjizm
Date Posted: 16 June 2004 at 2:01pm
calling me stupid?.. bcuz im telling people it is possible to walk a a5 rt.. i have ONE do u get that threw ur head,, i have an a5 with the rt.. and i walk it !! y is that hard to understand, do u own and a5 with an rt??.. no u dont so before u talk and think about how technically impossible it is to walk a mech trigger... talk to somone who actually OWNS one.. its possible and my trigger pull is not 3 pounds or 2 pounds it feels like about an ounce to me, maybe if u had a little bit more strenght in ur hand u can do it, but i guess u think its impossible, u weakling


Posted By: fdjizm
Date Posted: 16 June 2004 at 2:01pm

because ur bragging and ur stupid, lol grow up



Posted By: paintballaluke
Date Posted: 16 June 2004 at 3:26pm
^^^^Hes right! Jibs98 you shouldnt be talking or challenging somebody who actually owns the setup!

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Posted By: fdjizm
Date Posted: 16 June 2004 at 4:00pm

check this out jibbs im gonna show a video clip i made to the forum, just for u since u think walking a mech trigger is impossible...



Posted By: paintballaluke
Date Posted: 16 June 2004 at 4:05pm
Nice I want to see it! Post it here when your done!

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Posted By: evil-98
Date Posted: 16 June 2004 at 4:07pm

^^

i already have one.

if your not willing to buy an electric kit. then yes its Hard to walk the trigger mech.

w/ some modification you can easily walk the trigger. nothing is impossile you just dont want to believe it

i would show you guys the vid again but PuPz host is down.

i suggest you go to http://www.model98.net - www.model98.net those are your basic mods.

makes the trigger pull alot better then stock

PM me if you need help

 



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Posted By: Jibs98
Date Posted: 16 June 2004 at 4:11pm
I have shot at least 500 balls through an a-5 w/an rt and a DOP 2x trigger. I have also owned a 98 for over a year. The objective of walking a trigger is to not press it down so hard that your getting a fairly low rate of fire hitting the upper and lower grooves of the trigger. All the guys at my field admit you can't walk a mechanical tippmann <and some of them are pretty buff, which im sorrry to tell you doesnt exactly help pulling a trigger with your fingers >, get over it.


Posted By: paintballaluke
Date Posted: 16 June 2004 at 4:15pm

~Yeah but his a-5 had trigger mods, And like the evil-98 said its possible with http://www.model98.net - www.model98.net trigger mods~



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Posted By: SnakeEyes
Date Posted: 16 June 2004 at 4:20pm
Originally posted by fdjizm fdjizm wrote:

i have the rt, and its hard to walk bcuz it double fires, but it i bring the screw to were the speed is the fastest the sweet spot is hard to find and i can walk the trigger really fast, i did it at the range, i maxed at 16bps, walking not sweet spotting it


Please explain your definition of walking. There is something very fishy about being able to walk an r/t by definition.

An r/t resets the trigger by force. If you are pulling and releasing the trigger as you do when you walk it, then the force required to make the r/t work properly is fluctuating (force, no force, force, no force and so on)

And if you are walking an r/t, you might as well just remove it and learn to shoot true semi auto anyway.

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Posted By: SnakeEyes
Date Posted: 16 June 2004 at 4:22pm
And you can definitely walk a mechanical trigger. I do it constantly with my fully mech 98c. Unfortuantly I dont have it in working order right now to shut you up.

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Posted By: iamjoseph58
Date Posted: 18 June 2004 at 2:24am
you cant walk a r/t does the responce piston ring a bell?

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Posted By: fdjizm
Date Posted: 18 June 2004 at 9:00am

oh ok, i cant walk an r/t..... heres is the link to the video...

http://www.tippmann.com/players/forum/wwf77a/forum_posts.asp?TID=102470&PN=1 - http://www.tippmann.com/players/forum/wwf77a/forum_posts.asp?TID=102132&PN=1" target=_blank _blank?> http://www.tippmann.com/players/forum/wwf77a/forum_posts.asp?TID=102132&PN=1



Posted By: fdjizm
Date Posted: 18 June 2004 at 9:07am

http://www.tippmann.com/players/forum/wwf77a/forum_posts.asp?TID=102470&PN=1 - http://www.tippmann.com/players/forum/wwf77a/forum_posts.asp ?TID=102470&PN=1

click there for the video i made..

 

so.... this is not walking the trigger on an a5 with rt???..



Posted By: Jeremy578
Date Posted: 18 June 2004 at 10:45am
Originally posted by Kevin Z Kevin Z wrote:

Walking the trigger is nearly impossible with a mechanical trigger.

The characters you see getting megaBPS are using electronic triggers. The trigger is a microswitch with take-up and stop adjustments. With that kind of trigger you can walk super fast.

With a mechanical trigger, you have a double trigger that looks super cool, and that's about all it's good for.


You can do it with a RT but thats not truely walking the trigger.

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Posted By: evil-98
Date Posted: 18 June 2004 at 10:56am
^^ what more like bouncing? lol

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Posted By: evil-98
Date Posted: 18 June 2004 at 11:05am

Originally posted by SnakeEyes SnakeEyes wrote:

Originally posted by fdjizm fdjizm wrote:

i have the rt, and its hard to walk bcuz it double fires, but it i bring the screw to were the speed is the fastest the sweet spot is hard to find and i can walk the trigger really fast, i did it at the range, i maxed at 16bps, walking not sweet spotting it


Please explain your definition of walking. There is something very fishy about being able to walk an r/t by definition.

An r/t resets the trigger by force. If you are pulling and releasing the trigger as you do when you walk it, then the force required to make the r/t work properly is fluctuating (force, no force, force, no force and so on)

And if you are walking an r/t, you might as well just remove it and learn to shoot true semi auto anyway.

ya i analyzed his shoots true many process to see whats going on. and the very first shoot (0-.20 sec) was a sweet spot of 2 fires the next shoot (.21-1.2 sec) the middle finger was off the trigger but the index finger still on the trigger causing sweet spot of another 2 fires the shoot after that (1.3-1.10 sec) both fingers were on the trigger causing sweet spot of another 2 fires and so on and so forth

what i see is slow walking w/ mostly sweet spoting

so its like this

index, sweet spot 2 shoots (.20 sec)

middle, sweet spot 2 shoots (.20 sec)

index, sweet spot 2 shoots (.20 sec)

middle, sweet spot 2 shoots (.20 sec)

index, sweet spot 2 shoots (.20 sec)

total of 1 sec 10 bps

 

 



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Posted By: fdjizm
Date Posted: 18 June 2004 at 2:30pm
good analysis, i guess thats what going on lol, but since all i heard is straight shots when im pulling th trigger fast its something like walking to me, since i keep moving my finger... im gonna take my rt off and try it, lets see if i can walk it then...



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