co2 or HPA tank?
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Topic: co2 or HPA tank?
Posted By: D-ballzz
Subject: co2 or HPA tank?
Date Posted: 27 June 2004 at 1:06pm
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well im trying to decide. wiether or not i should just stick with co2 or get a hpa tank? currenty i have a 12oz and a 20 oz, and im thinking of getting the gta X-chamber kit to make more constant shots. but instead i could buy a hpa tank, but for one, hpa is expensive, and 2 i read on the tippmann site that hpa has very little advantage over co2 unless you have the low pressure kit which is another 120 bucks. so should i just stick with co2 and buy a x-chamber which is only about 40-50 bucks or get hpa which is about 150-200 for a decent tank plus i would have to get the low pressure kit to really make a difference over co2 which is another 120 bucks, so either i spend 50 bucks or almost 350 bucks? ------------- life sucks, then u die ------------------- 98c 12oz,20oz 12" Lapco Bigshot polished internals, along with every other homemade mod you can think of soon- x-core chamber, and rocket cock 2 |
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Posted By: Paintball Panda
Date Posted: 27 June 2004 at 1:13pm
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ok when Tippmann said it makes no diffrence between c02 and HPA they just want you to fall prey to there Selling Sceem... THE Huge advantage Hpa has over c02 is that it wont Freeze your gun. The Expansion Chamber from GTA SUX!!! it only a 2 stage. if your ganna stay with c02 I suggest these 2 Critical upgrades for it.
Thats a bit cheaper then switching to HPA but in the end you'll see that HPA is the way to go... And besides if you buy the tank now you can always save your money and buy Comp-Air to make your Custom super Sexy or you can buy a really cheap tank thats like 78$ and buy the Comp-Air kit. and put Macroline on, which should be around 200$ and later on you can buy a bigger HPA tank and keep your 47ci tank as a spare. ------------- 
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Posted By: D-ballzz
Date Posted: 27 June 2004 at 1:16pm
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and also, hpa doesnt get as many shots per tank compared to my 20oz tank. a 68/3000 tank will get about 660 shots. heck my 12 oz gets that much, i think im gonna stay with c02, and buy a x-chamber, but i dont know what to get, and what i will need for it. ------------- life sucks, then u die ------------------- 98c 12oz,20oz 12" Lapco Bigshot polished internals, along with every other homemade mod you can think of soon- x-core chamber, and rocket cock 2 |
Posted By: Paintball Panda
Date Posted: 27 June 2004 at 1:23pm
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For Xpansion you will need the fallowing
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Posted By: paintballaluke
Date Posted: 27 June 2004 at 1:24pm
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Thats why you get a 68/4500 tank and it will shot more!, or 88/4500 |
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Posted By: Paintball Panda
Date Posted: 27 June 2004 at 1:30pm
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uhh... 68/4500 gets around 1020 shots, that heck of alot more then a 12oz co2... Rule of thumb with HPA is get the Ci*15 Exapmple: 47 x 15 = 705 Shotd So with a 68ci tank it should get around 1020 and 88ci should be around 1320 So you See HPA Gets almost 25% more shots. -------------
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Posted By: D-ballzz
Date Posted: 27 June 2004 at 1:36pm
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um, yea buy mt 20 oz gets about 1000 anyway. like i said i kinds decided im sticking with co2, way cheaper, and if i get a x-chamber it iwll make it more consistant, maybe not like hpa. but i only play with my friends and maybe somtimes i go to a field, im no pro tournamet guy i dont need hpa.
and with that X-chamber why would i need 2 90 degree fittings? one for the chamber, whats the other one for? my asa isnt a 90 degree fitting the hose goes straight out. ------------- life sucks, then u die ------------------- 98c 12oz,20oz 12" Lapco Bigshot polished internals, along with every other homemade mod you can think of soon- x-core chamber, and rocket cock 2 |
Posted By: D-ballzz
Date Posted: 27 June 2004 at 1:44pm
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ok i think im eithier gonna get the tippman x-chamber kit, its only 40 bucks and has everything i need to install it, or the X-core, but thats 20 plues i need a vertical adapter which is another 20 plus a 90 degree fitting, only thing i dont know is what size steel hose i will need. ------------- life sucks, then u die ------------------- 98c 12oz,20oz 12" Lapco Bigshot polished internals, along with every other homemade mod you can think of soon- x-core chamber, and rocket cock 2 |
Posted By: paintballaluke
Date Posted: 27 June 2004 at 1:49pm
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tippmann x -chamber isnt very good! The dead on x-core 8 stage is the best on the market right now. |
Posted By: D-ballzz
Date Posted: 27 June 2004 at 2:04pm
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ok heres what im buying...........
http://www.countypaintball.com/product_description.asp?item=2547 - http://www.countypaintball.com/product_description.asp?item= 2547 http://www.countypaintball.com/product_description.asp?item=1127 - http://www.countypaintball.com/product_description.asp?item= 1127 plus i need a vertical adapter, but i donno where to get em. country doesnt have them and now all i need to know is.... somone who has this x-chamber can u please tell me what size steel hose i will need?
cuz im gonna oder this tonight if possible if somone can just tell what size i need ------------- life sucks, then u die ------------------- 98c 12oz,20oz 12" Lapco Bigshot polished internals, along with every other homemade mod you can think of soon- x-core chamber, and rocket cock 2 |
Posted By: D-ballzz
Date Posted: 27 June 2004 at 4:10pm
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anyone have one??? ------------- life sucks, then u die ------------------- 98c 12oz,20oz 12" Lapco Bigshot polished internals, along with every other homemade mod you can think of soon- x-core chamber, and rocket cock 2 |
Posted By: D-ballzz
Date Posted: 27 June 2004 at 6:13pm
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please somone!!!!!!!!!!!! whats the length i need for a steel hose for the X-core!!!!!!!!!!!! i need to oder it tonight ------------- life sucks, then u die ------------------- 98c 12oz,20oz 12" Lapco Bigshot polished internals, along with every other homemade mod you can think of soon- x-core chamber, and rocket cock 2 |
Posted By: 5ptcontingency
Date Posted: 27 June 2004 at 6:27pm
| Save yourself the trouble and get a macroline kit |
Posted By: D-ballzz
Date Posted: 27 June 2004 at 6:30pm
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no way. thoses break wayyyyyyyy to easly. i want somthing durable and reliable, so anyonw know what size steel hose i need??? come on, everyone says x-core is the best..... well apparenty no one has one. ------------- life sucks, then u die ------------------- 98c 12oz,20oz 12" Lapco Bigshot polished internals, along with every other homemade mod you can think of soon- x-core chamber, and rocket cock 2 |
Posted By: Vertigo
Date Posted: 27 June 2004 at 7:15pm
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um macrolines are durable and reliable they are much easyer to put on and they are much cooler looking
------------- mask 40$ gun 300$ compressed air 200$ jersy 50$ paintballs 60$ field fee 20$ shooting your friend in the nuts priceless |
Posted By: aaron4881304
Date Posted: 27 June 2004 at 7:42pm
| another idea might have be to buy a palmer stabilizer now to help with your C02 consistency problems until you get enough cash to buy your hpa, then you could switch over and keep using the stabilizer if you haven't already made your decision. |
Posted By: cockchafer
Date Posted: 27 June 2004 at 8:38pm
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i would just buy an HPA tank. ------------- a-5 polished internals Tippmann Werks Barrel CP flame drop foward gta double trigger pen spring mod |
Posted By: You Wont See Me
Date Posted: 27 June 2004 at 9:23pm
------------- A-5 E-Grip JCS Dual Trigger DOP X-CORE 8 stage x-chamber Lapco Bigshot 14" Beadblasted Optional setup: R/T Dead on Blade trigger |
cockchafer wrote:Posted By: <Ridd
Date Posted: 27 June 2004 at 9:45pm
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D-Ballz... I don't know where you hear about the negativity in the macroline...Me and other guys have repeatedly have "confirmed' the durability of it and you keep on insisting that it isn't. I have told you this on a different thread and still you don't believe me. I HAVE EXPERIENCE IN THIS! 2 fittings and a macroline is about the same price as for 2 nickel plated fittings and a steel braided hose, if not cheaper. If you are so insistent on buying the steel braided hose, just wait until you get your other parts then measure the distance between the asa and your x chamber then purchase your steel braided hose then. Eventually you are either going to buy a drop forward and PROBABLY need a different length again.
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Posted By: D-ballzz
Date Posted: 27 June 2004 at 9:51pm
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ok first of all, i get just as many shots out of my 20oz then i would with a 68/4500 tank, so why spend 200 bucks just for a consistant upgrade, when i can get a x-chamber for 50 bucks and fix that. like i said im not a pro player, actually i have never even been to a paintball field, i just play with friends, and i just want a cheap way to fix volocity, and that was is with an x-chamber, I DONT WANT HPA!!!!!!! and i never will. unless im a pro paintball guy. anyway.... so u mean no one in here knows what lenght of steel hose i will need with x-core ------------- life sucks, then u die ------------------- 98c 12oz,20oz 12" Lapco Bigshot polished internals, along with every other homemade mod you can think of soon- x-core chamber, and rocket cock 2 |
Posted By: maroon out
Date Posted: 27 June 2004 at 9:54pm
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What gun is it on and do you have a drop? ------------- Watch your thoughts they become words Watch your words they become actions Watch your actions they become habits Watch your habits they become character Watch your character it becomes your destin |
Posted By: <Ridd
Date Posted: 27 June 2004 at 10:00pm
I don't know...do you have the asa that came with your Tippmann or do you have a drop forward (and which one)? Do you realize though the macroline isn't just for HPA/Nitro..what I'm saying its more durable than the steel braided hose? Just get a foot of it and cut to length??????? |
Posted By: D-ballzz
Date Posted: 27 June 2004 at 10:46pm
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i have 98 custom, everything stock except i have a bigshot. ------------- life sucks, then u die ------------------- 98c 12oz,20oz 12" Lapco Bigshot polished internals, along with every other homemade mod you can think of soon- x-core chamber, and rocket cock 2 |
Posted By: maroon out
Date Posted: 27 June 2004 at 10:54pm
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7" ------------- Watch your thoughts they become words Watch your words they become actions Watch your actions they become habits Watch your habits they become character Watch your character it becomes your destin |
Posted By: D-ballzz
Date Posted: 27 June 2004 at 11:13pm
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hmm, someone just told me 6" now im confused ------------- life sucks, then u die ------------------- 98c 12oz,20oz 12" Lapco Bigshot polished internals, along with every other homemade mod you can think of soon- x-core chamber, and rocket cock 2 |
Posted By: <Ridd
Date Posted: 27 June 2004 at 11:15pm
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Unbelievable... Buy both 6" & 7". |
Posted By: D-ballzz
Date Posted: 28 June 2004 at 8:25am
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well a took a tape messure, and i messured it on my gun where i think it will go, it looks like 6 inch is plenty ------------- life sucks, then u die ------------------- 98c 12oz,20oz 12" Lapco Bigshot polished internals, along with every other homemade mod you can think of soon- x-core chamber, and rocket cock 2 |
Posted By: PitchBlacK
Date Posted: 28 June 2004 at 10:10am
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gee am I the only person here who does NOT have problems with CO2? it works just fine for me. i mean if you're an autistic speedballer with some sorta gatling gun then maybe CO2 isn't for you but otherwise, HPA is just for fancy pants kids. paintball guns are becoming the next honda civic's.. i bet someone will come on here talkin about how they mounted a spoiler on their loader to help them stay low while running fast. ------------- 
PitChBLaCk - Wasting Autistic Speedballers Since 2001 Tippmann A-5, 12" SP Teardrop, 20oz. CO2 w/ SP On/Off |
Posted By: maroon out
Date Posted: 28 June 2004 at 10:16am
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County's suggestion was 7". I'd just go with that.
....or just make it simple and get macroline. ------------- Watch your thoughts they become words Watch your words they become actions Watch your actions they become habits Watch your habits they become character Watch your character it becomes your destin |
Posted By: Bauerp0weR 18
Date Posted: 28 June 2004 at 11:22am
------------- Black Smart Parts Ion Halo B Check-It Unimount macroline 68/45 Pure Energy tank |
Posted By: D-ballzz
Date Posted: 28 June 2004 at 11:26am
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lol yulp i agree with you 100% HPA is for people that play speedball, and the money for it to blow, theres nothing wrong with c02, just get a x-chamber and your fine. if i was rich i would get a hpa tank, but. plus i get more shots with my 20 oz then a average tank can. ok say i get a 7" hose, what if its to long? ------------- life sucks, then u die ------------------- 98c 12oz,20oz 12" Lapco Bigshot polished internals, along with every other homemade mod you can think of soon- x-core chamber, and rocket cock 2 |
Posted By: D-ballzz
Date Posted: 28 June 2004 at 11:31am
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wait..... cant i just use my stock steel braided hose???? ------------- life sucks, then u die ------------------- 98c 12oz,20oz 12" Lapco Bigshot polished internals, along with every other homemade mod you can think of soon- x-core chamber, and rocket cock 2 |
Posted By: Bill Gates
Date Posted: 28 June 2004 at 11:35am
yes.id get an HPA tank.you can find some preset crossfire tanks for under $200.  |
Posted By: D-ballzz
Date Posted: 28 June 2004 at 12:10pm
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no, im not talking about hpa tank, i dont want a hpa tank,. i want to know if i can just use my stock hose for the x-core chamber? ------------- life sucks, then u die ------------------- 98c 12oz,20oz 12" Lapco Bigshot polished internals, along with every other homemade mod you can think of soon- x-core chamber, and rocket cock 2 |
Posted By: maroon out
Date Posted: 28 June 2004 at 12:18pm
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If it's 7", then yes. ------------- Watch your thoughts they become words Watch your words they become actions Watch your actions they become habits Watch your habits they become character Watch your character it becomes your destin |
Posted By: D-ballzz
Date Posted: 28 June 2004 at 2:16pm
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well is the stock one 7"??? ------------- life sucks, then u die ------------------- 98c 12oz,20oz 12" Lapco Bigshot polished internals, along with every other homemade mod you can think of soon- x-core chamber, and rocket cock 2 |
Posted By: maroon out
Date Posted: 28 June 2004 at 2:24pm
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Geez, c'mon, how incompetent are you!
Can't you measure it yourself???? ------------- Watch your thoughts they become words Watch your words they become actions Watch your actions they become habits Watch your habits they become character Watch your character it becomes your destin |
Posted By: D-ballzz
Date Posted: 28 June 2004 at 4:02pm
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no, lol well i dont wanna order the wrong size, and besides my gun isnt here at the moment. so can the stock one work? or do i need to buy a 7"? ------------- life sucks, then u die ------------------- 98c 12oz,20oz 12" Lapco Bigshot polished internals, along with every other homemade mod you can think of soon- x-core chamber, and rocket cock 2 |
Posted By: paintster98c101
Date Posted: 28 June 2004 at 4:19pm
| http://www.countypaintball.com/product_description.asp?item=1033 - http://www.countypaintball.com/product_description.asp?item= 1033 if you couldn't find the vert adapter here it is at county |
Posted By: The Man
Date Posted: 28 June 2004 at 4:44pm
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This thread made my head hurt LOL Just get a maco line kit it's durable and works with co2 I know cuz that's what I use it with plus you can just cut to the right lenght. or go to a local shop and get the right lenght hose. Good Luck! ------------- Cp critical Bob Long Lengens painball park Team Rendition |
Posted By: D-ballzz
Date Posted: 28 June 2004 at 5:35pm
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oh man, ok im not getting macroline, about 90% of the people i talk to say macoline is veery dangerious cuz it breaks to much, (blows a hole) i just dont trust it, so ill ask one more time. will the stock steel braided hose fit with the x-core???? ------------- life sucks, then u die ------------------- 98c 12oz,20oz 12" Lapco Bigshot polished internals, along with every other homemade mod you can think of soon- x-core chamber, and rocket cock 2 |
Posted By: Bomber Brigade
Date Posted: 28 June 2004 at 5:57pm
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Posted By: 5950
Date Posted: 28 June 2004 at 7:09pm
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buy hpa it is better co2 sucks
------------- arguing on the interent is like running in the special olympics, even if you win you are still retarded |
Posted By: D-ballzz
Date Posted: 28 June 2004 at 7:28pm
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ok please stop saying to buy hpa im not going to, if i had 150 bucks to waste i would. and dont say ohhh just buy a cheap one for 75 or whatever. if i would ever buy a hpa tank it would have to shoot over 1000 paintballs, and ony the 4500 ones do that. and those are expensive, plus tippmann says hpa is only little advantage over co2 unless you have a low pressuse kit, which is about 120 bucks. anyway. is the stock hose long enough for the x-core? ------------- life sucks, then u die ------------------- 98c 12oz,20oz 12" Lapco Bigshot polished internals, along with every other homemade mod you can think of soon- x-core chamber, and rocket cock 2 |
Posted By: whiteknight457
Date Posted: 30 June 2004 at 8:16pm
| i dont know 4 a fact but it should be long enough and im wit u stick wit the CO2. |
Posted By: D-ballzz
Date Posted: 30 June 2004 at 8:51pm
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hope so ------------- life sucks, then u die ------------------- 98c 12oz,20oz 12" Lapco Bigshot polished internals, along with every other homemade mod you can think of soon- x-core chamber, and rocket cock 2 |
Posted By: Vertigo
Date Posted: 30 June 2004 at 10:17pm
yea u arent gonna waste your money if u buy an hpa tank its one of the best upgrades and investments u can make with your gun for these reasons 1. cheaper fills at about .25 cents per fill with scuba 2.Much more consistent shots and FPS 3.Some markers' internals can be frozen by co2 which can lead to some serious problems And the thing u said about macrolines is total bs they are safe and if u get a hole in it its only gonna empty the tank The thing tipmann says about the hpa thing is bs they just want u to buy there stuff from them so they can make money ------------- mask 40$ gun 300$ compressed air 200$ jersy 50$ paintballs 60$ field fee 20$ shooting your friend in the nuts priceless |
Posted By: evil_fingers
Date Posted: 30 June 2004 at 10:49pm
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Only use co2 if yer only gonna play once a month, get HPA if yer playin every weekend or sometimes on the weekdays.....like myself, I only go play once a month and by doin that I save hundreds of dollas. ------------- Do not steal....the government hates competition! 
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Posted By: Spud2
Date Posted: 30 June 2004 at 11:10pm
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Why did you even make this thread? if after one answer you make up your mind i think you shouldn't have made it and No i'm pretty dang sure the stock hose wont work without a coil and possible kink and i've heard good and bad about macroline so cant tell you that and HPA is much better with or without the lp kit the lp kit just unleashes the true potential of it all ------------- Name: Spud Paintball: Yes Please Leave My duck alone Setup: 98 Custom Psycho Ballistics 2x trigger J&J Ceramic 14" R/t Halo Tsa 45/45k HPA Custom black to red metallic fade |
Posted By: JaguarPaintball
Date Posted: 30 June 2004 at 11:26pm
I LIKE DOGS
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Posted By: paintballaluke
Date Posted: 30 June 2004 at 11:29pm
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Ok man I use macro line along with "you wont see me" also uses macro line, we have both never had any problems with it. To make it easy on yourself buy this kit. The kit includes the macro lines which can be cut to lenght, 1 90* fiting, and 1 straight fiting. Trust me this is the right kit I have the setup. Dont forget to pick up a vertical adapter up also from http://www.countypaintball.com - www.countypaintball.com . http://www.countypaintball.com/product_description.asp?item=1311 - http://www.countypaintball.com/product_description.asp?item= 1311 KIT^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ |
Posted By: SenorDingDong
Date Posted: 01 July 2004 at 12:27am
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Go HPA is ur best bet. Theres many advantages of it over Co2. IF u dont then get macroline. If 90% of people told u it breaks, then those 90% of people are idiots and either installed it wrong, or dont take care of their markers. Macroline is durable, and ive never seen any blow a hole in it. ------------- Tippmann A5 Lapco Bigshot 12" E-Grip Dead on Bullet Drop Macro-Line 68ci 3000psi Carbon Fiber tank |
Posted By: 98CustomPerson
Date Posted: 01 July 2004 at 12:47am
| I have the same position on macroline as D-Ballzz. It seems like if you pull on the macro, it'll just come off or rip or something. The steel won't budge at all. The only problem is finding the right size but that is a one time thing for the entire life of you gun. |
Posted By: 98CustomPerson
Date Posted: 01 July 2004 at 12:49am
| The stock hose doesn't have to fit perfectly. You can bend it a little to make it short enough. I did that with with mine and it doesn't look bad at all. As long as you have the 90* fittings, you can have the hose go up and close to the gun as opposed to sticking half a mile out. |
Posted By: 98CustomPerson
Date Posted: 01 July 2004 at 12:54am
| If you don't even play at a field, there is no point of having nitro. There are no refs that are going to chrono your gun. If you shooting at 300fps, who cares. Everyone else is your playing with because there is no way to chrono. Velocity spikes... Doesn't matter. -No refs are going to kick you out of the woods. If you have a good barrel and good paint, your set. A StarFire bolt will help.($10) |
Posted By: evil_fingers
Date Posted: 01 July 2004 at 1:15am
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Sounds like youve been playin in yer backyard too much.....no chrono's at a field, apparently you wasnt payin attention where exactly the chrono's were located......that would explain yer statment. ------------- Do not steal....the government hates competition!
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Posted By: whiteknight457
Date Posted: 01 July 2004 at 8:57pm
this is final dballzz dont get hpa. my reason its a little better than co2 for 100's of $ more. so evry1 leave him alone becuz i dont think he wants hpa
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