Homebrew Response Trigger Guide with pics
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Topic: Homebrew Response Trigger Guide with pics
Posted By: killernoodle
Subject: Homebrew Response Trigger Guide with pics
Date Posted: 08 July 2004 at 9:41pm
Ok guys, I promised you. A while ago I posted a few pics of an RT I
made and was making modifications to to improve. I have finally found
a winning combination of ease of construction and availability of
parts. Remember now, I am not responsible for any modifications done to
your gun if they take a turn for the worst, but I take full
responsibility for all your success :D Now the part that you have been
waiting for:
What you will need:
- Short length of 1/2" copper pipe and 2 matching end caps.
- Small irrigation fittings, mainly 2 elbows and 1 T fitting.
- 1 foot of matching vinyl tubing
- 1-1/4" Aluminum threaded post with screw
- A squeegie with a rubber end like the one shown above. You can
find this in a store or maybe you ccan buy it from someone. Remember
to bring a short length of copper pipe to ensure it is just about the
right size for it. Also note that you will be putting the short screw
from the post inside the recess on it, thereby increasing its diameter
slightly. If you find the correct sized one, it should fit perfectly
inside the copper pipe and create a nearly airtight seal.
- Epoxy: I used JB Weld for the epoxying and am quite happy with the results
- #4-40 screw and a matching tap if you want.
- Very light weight coil spring with a diameter large enough to
take up most of the copper tube. I took mine out of a very large button
from my dad's shop. It is about 3/4" long when extended and about 3/8"
across. This replaces the stock trigger reset spring with a much
lighter pull and keeps the plunger against the trigger at all times.
- Electrical or duct tape
- Drill with various sized bits.
- Various tools
Alright, here is what you will need to do:
- First, dis-assemble the gun- duh. On the right side reciever,
right above the grip, you will see a depressed circle. Punch it out
with a screwdriver or whatever.
- On the Power Tube, there is a small round cylinder thing sticking
out that slides into the right reciever. You will need to cut this
off. Now, find a drill bit that is roughly the same diameter as the
small fittings you have. Find the center of post you just cut off of
the power tube and drill it out enough to fit a good bit of the fitting
in there. It is okay if a little metal comes out with the plastic,
just be sure to clean the shavings out before re-installing it into the
gun.
- Re-attach the power tube to the reciever. Be careful with the
bolts on the side of the gun, it is easy to strip out the threads.
Now, in the new hole you have on the side of the gun that goes into the
power tube, slide an elbow fitting and test its fit. You should have
it in enough to put a piece of tubing around it and have it right up
against the side of the reciever. Mix a small amount of epoxy and glue
the fitting to the power tube. *note: in order to take the power tube
back off (usually never necessary) you will need to break the epoxy
bond on the fitting and re-apply epoxy to the fitting to attach it
again.* Be sure that none of the epoxy got inside the fitting, blow in
it and make sure it is not restricted.
- Next, in the hole you punched on the side of the right reciever,
put in the T fitting so that you have one end inline with the fitting
on the power tube and the other end pointing straight back. On the end
that fits straight back, you will need to thread your #4-40 screw into
it. This is to adjust the amount of air going into the system and will
also act as a shutoff for tourney games to turn the system off.
- On the T part that goes into a reciever, put on a piece of tubing
about 3 inches long and ram it into the hole. This should hold it in
place well.
- After the epoxy on the power tube fitting is completely hardened,
run a piece of tubing from the elbow fitting to the T fitting. Now the
external part of the mod should be done.
- Anyways, now on to the piston. Cut a segment of copper so that
when both endcaps are put on it, there is about a 1/8" gap between
them. The length of the cylinder is crucial to the effeciency of
the piston because the amount of volume in the chamber needs to be very
small when the piston is all the way in. That all comes later
though.
- Now, the construction of the plunger begins. This is the
trickiest part of the mod to get right. Basically, the piston has
to create a nearly airtight seal with the copper pipe, but still be
able to move freely back and forth. What you need to do is take
off the screw part of the aluminum post. Mix some epoxy and
insert the screw into the recessed area of the rubber thingy. Essentially, you
should be able to put the other part of the post into the other end of
the rubber thing and have a sturdy plunger. The friction on the
post when you screw it in should allow for adjustment of the length of
the entire plunger without it being able to unscrew itself.
- Next, you will need to drill holes on both endcaps to allow for
the fitting and the plunger to go in. For the fitting side, trim
off the barbed part of the fitting and get a drill bit that is the same
size of the narrow part of the fitting you just modified. Drill
it out and epoxy the fitting into it. Make sure this is a very
sturdy piece. On the piece where the plunger will go through,
make the drill bit a fair bit larger than the aluminum stud. Air
will need to be able to escape out the other end, otherwise the system
wont work properly. Dont worry, when both receivers are put
together, they will guide the plunger. If the post stud doesnt
quite fit between the two recievers, you can take a dremel with a
grinding thing or a round file or some sandpaper to remove some
material to get it sliding freely.
- Right now, you should have 2 endcaps, one with a fitting on it, a
short piece of copper pipe, and a plunger assembly. First, epoxy
the endcap with the fitting to the copper pipe. Then take the
plunger assembly apart and re-assemble it so that the endcap with the
hole in it is inside the two ends. When the epoxy on everything
is dry, put a lot of gun oil inside the tube and on the plunger, drop the spring in there if you have it, and
then put the rubbery end inside the copper pipe piece and slide the
other endcap onto it. To keep it together, use a piece of duct
tape or electrical tape and wrap it around the entire unit once or
twice. This will also keep the piston secured between the two
recievers.
- You're almost done! Now you have a piston. To test
it, put your finger on the hole going into it and move the
piston. Move the plunger in and out: you should feel a good bit
of resistance to motion due to the buildup of air pressure in the
cylinder. Take your finger off and it should slide easily.
If it does all this well, then you have a good RT in the works!
- Put the piston assembly on the right reciever and cut the tube
coming in to the proper length. You may have to find something to keep
the tube from kinking around the bend, you can also file it out so it
curves instead of making a right angle where it turns. Connect the tube
to the piston and put the piston inside the reciever. Put the two
sides together and be sure the piston slides freely still. If the
two ends pinch the plunger, you will need to file these out some or
sand them or whatever.
- Re-assemble your gun.
- Eat something and take a nap, you have had a good day's work.
If you have any specific questions about the mod, PLEASE DO NOT PM THEM
TO ME!!! Put them on the thread so everyone can read your problem and
have me answer it. This will help everyone out. I'll post more
pics of the unit when I can upload them better. I'll also post a
video of the unit in action sometime when I get some more CO2.
Yep, I drained all 3 tanks already again:D
Thanks again for reading.
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Posted By: custom98 freak
Date Posted: 08 July 2004 at 9:45pm
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dud ur crazy i mean i do make so mods to my triger but not an rt
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Posted By: killernoodle
Date Posted: 08 July 2004 at 10:00pm
Pics:





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Posted By: SiLeNt-ScOpE
Date Posted: 08 July 2004 at 11:44pm
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i cant belive you did it, i might need to try
you deserve a hell of alot of congrats!
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Posted By: SiLeNt-ScOpE
Date Posted: 08 July 2004 at 11:54pm
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BTW, this may sound noobish, but how does the RT work? what does it do that makes it so great.....please tell in noobish form
PS this should really be a sticky methinks
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Posted By: rootsradicals
Date Posted: 09 July 2004 at 12:26am
wow, now thats a mod to post on http://www.model98.net - http://www.model98.net congradulations
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Posted By: killernoodle
Date Posted: 09 July 2004 at 1:04am
An RT works by using excess gas from the power tube to push a piston and reset the trigger, allowing for fully automatic fire.
When the gun is fired, the power tube is filled with compressed CO2 to
launch the paintball. If you connect a piston to the power tube
and fire the gun, the piston will rapidly expand. Attach the piston to
the trigger and it will reset the trigger almost instantaneously on
every shot.
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Posted By: SiLeNt-ScOpE
Date Posted: 09 July 2004 at 8:12am
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and yours does this?!?!?!
wow man, there anyway you can get more like...step by step pics? an are those fittings plastic? they look plastic
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Posted By: Benjichang
Date Posted: 09 July 2004 at 10:20am
Mad props to you dude. That's really original how much did it cost to buy all the parts?
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Posted By: 98CustomPerson
Date Posted: 09 July 2004 at 11:08am
That is nice! I don't know where I'm going to get a squeegee though... I don't live anywhere near a proshop.
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Posted By: cadet_sergeant
Date Posted: 09 July 2004 at 12:03pm
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vary nice couple questions how long is the 1/2 inch piping you put in yours? and will it work in an A-5? lets see pics of the inside of yours?
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Posted By: paintballaluke
Date Posted: 09 July 2004 at 12:09pm
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Give him a star. Nice work.
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Posted By: killernoodle
Date Posted: 09 July 2004 at 1:22pm
I'd need to take the entire system apart to find out how long the tube
is, but basically with the two copper endpipes on there there is only
about 1/8" of the copper tube visible between them. I'll try to
do a step by step photo thing when (or if) I do my brother's gun.
The stuff costs around $8 if you already have a piece of 1/2" copper
pipe laying around like I did, and I found the squeegie on the field :D
Also, I dont have an A-5 so I dont know what I'd need to do to make it
work. I'd probably have to buy some different fittings to match the
system already on the A-5.
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Posted By: ekeboo
Date Posted: 09 July 2004 at 2:02pm
pretty darn impressive i know the response isnt anything fancy but making one hey im impressed hey u also have the same scope as me look at my a-5 second page its ekeboo's gun back online once agian, good job on making it yourself and i like the jb weld thats funny i know a guy who uses that all the time 
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Posted By: MSG.Mobius
Date Posted: 09 July 2004 at 2:14pm
Is that a scope on ur gun?
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Posted By: killernoodle
Date Posted: 09 July 2004 at 2:23pm
Yes, and it is functional. I need it because without it, I'd have
to play with my glasses on and that is not fun. They fog up and get wet
and I cant see. This is so I can see people far away and get them
out with one shot.
And yes, JB Weld is 100x better than epoxy IMO. :D It rocks!
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Posted By: Silent-Scope2
Date Posted: 09 July 2004 at 4:37pm
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lol dude, i was broadcasting your awsome invention in the marker gallery to show your mod (all credit going to you of course) and my other account got guested....so, i had to make silent scope 2.0 just most people didnt really come into here and so i posted the link, and lots of people said thanx, but some nimrods decided against me and i got banned, so in saying this, i will probably get banned again.....whish is just dumb. But mad props to you man, i think that the most amazing paintball mod i have ever seen.
EDIT: man if you do make the photo instructions please email them to me bionicle911@hotmail.com
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Posted By: Random_Person
Date Posted: 09 July 2004 at 7:11pm
that is incredibly sweet, i would so do that, but i have a A-5 and i don't know if it would work
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Posted By: killernoodle
Date Posted: 09 July 2004 at 10:28pm
Dont bust silent scope :D he is the only one that has ever worshipped me :D
Yep, I'm now posting a lot model98.net, so that is a new home for my mods.
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Posted By: 98God
Date Posted: 09 July 2004 at 10:38pm
thats amazing good job 
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Posted By: Silent-Scope2
Date Posted: 10 July 2004 at 2:33pm
lol dude well i just cant belive it, you could save people hundreds
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Posted By: Darklight
Date Posted: 10 July 2004 at 3:13pm
Mad props to ya i wish i was able to think of something like that and beable to do it  
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Posted By: 1/3rd_skilled
Date Posted: 10 July 2004 at 3:43pm
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wow 
Mind bending. j/w how many times have u tried to do this....
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Posted By: bababooie
Date Posted: 12 July 2004 at 6:04pm
instead of using jb weld of the end cap why dont u just soilder them .? and i need a better explantinon on the plunger i mean what are u suppose to tell the hardware guy
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Posted By: Silent-Scope2
Date Posted: 14 July 2004 at 7:00pm
he hasnt been on here or model 98 forums.....so maybe his r/t blew up on him?? and....you catch my drift
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Posted By: TruePaintballer
Date Posted: 14 July 2004 at 7:04pm
Coolio
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Posted By: killernoodle
Date Posted: 16 July 2004 at 10:45am
Sorry guys, I've been on vacation for a week.
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Posted By: Erik
Date Posted: 16 July 2004 at 11:38am
Does it really work like the original Tippmann one?
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Posted By: killernoodle
Date Posted: 16 July 2004 at 7:38pm
I cant be sure, I dont have an oem response trigger That is why I made this one. To my knowlege, it does the exact same thing.
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Posted By: travis75
Date Posted: 18 July 2004 at 9:53pm
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Mad Props to ya 
(clears throat)
When my A-5 gets here, ill look into if you can do that mod to the A-5. It should be about the same, but it may be different.
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Posted By: BigPBallerJ
Date Posted: 23 July 2004 at 6:44pm
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very nicly done to bad i bought 1 b 4 i saw this or i would make 1 as u did seems ez enough i myself have created many of my own parts for my 98c such as barrels, triggers trigger guards front bolts, and sight rails, but nothing this complecated please if u have any other mods u have personaly made post motivation would b greatly apricated.......
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Posted By: maroon out
Date Posted: 23 July 2004 at 7:04pm
BigPBallerJ wrote:
very nicly done to bad i bought 1 b 4 i saw this or i would make 1 as u did seems ez enough i myself have created many of my own parts for my 98c such as barrels, triggers trigger guards front bolts, and sight rails, but nothing this complecated please if u have any other mods u have personaly made post motivation would b greatly apricated.......
sencirly a fellow customizer
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Dude, you made a cocking knob. You even made a post about how it was your first projuect ever.
Stop making it sound as if you're the milling guru.
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Posted By: pbdude985
Date Posted: 23 July 2004 at 8:11pm
thats amazing i cant believe u could do that. was there alot of trile and error ? i wood of probally gotten very stressed very awsome job       
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Posted By: killernoodle
Date Posted: 25 July 2004 at 1:01am
Yeah, it is still in development thought. I finally got a fresh co2 tank the other day and my first shot was 440 fps ...
and the response trigger works but the sear cannot latch because the
rear spring was way too tight. Basically, I took the little
plastic stop in the back of the gun and moved it onto the second notch,
but I havent had time to test fire again. I'm sure I have to put a
stronger sear spring in there, maybe that is why it is included in the
stock RT kit. I cant wait to play with it now :D
My next purchase will obviously be a fast hopper :D
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Posted By: travis75
Date Posted: 19 August 2004 at 6:02pm
sticky icky icky
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