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Topic: Revolver
Posted By: Joseph Manton
Subject: Revolver
Date Posted: 09 July 2004 at 8:23am
My goal is to try to make a gun that shoots 30bps.  In order to do this I need to make a revolver type paint ball gun.  One that has a star agitator, like the a-5 but is vertical to the gun instead of horizontal.  I also don't want to waste any Co2 to accomplish this so I came up with having the bolt in the gun act like a piston in a motor.  Everytime the gun is fired the fly wheel attached to the bolt would make a complete turn.  You would have a 1:5 reduction so the agitator would load a paintball every time.  Also you would have to some how make a hopper or magazine feed the star.



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Posted By: Thads
Date Posted: 09 July 2004 at 9:42am
q-loader?


Posted By: ?Took?
Date Posted: 09 July 2004 at 10:01am
q-loader or a Tricked out Z-boarded Halo B possibly with a HIGH energy 9 volt batteries and some little tiny adjustments. But q-loader is the fastest loader out there 100 bps.

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Posted By: 5ptcontingency
Date Posted: 09 July 2004 at 10:09am
Originally posted by ?Took? ?Took? wrote:

q-loader or a Tricked out Z-boarded Halo B possibly with a HIGH energy 9 volt batteries and some little tiny adjustments. But q-loader is the fastest loader out there 100 bps.


But that doesn't mean the marker can shoot that fast. Don't get hung up on the loader, he's talking about the marker itself.


Posted By: ?Took?
Date Posted: 09 July 2004 at 10:51am
WEll he is retarded. he cant pull of 30 bps

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Posted By: Bob'sA-5
Date Posted: 09 July 2004 at 11:53am
is is going to look like a gattling gun?? if so that will be sweet. Make more than one barrel and a push botton trigger

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Posted By: mick_collins
Date Posted: 09 July 2004 at 2:37pm

use a ammo drum like on an m249 or m60 with a verticle cyclone system on it

kinda like this the calls could be pressure fed, and the cyclone feed could be turned by gears that turn when the bolt retracts

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as for getting more than 30 bps you're on you could make a sear that  does not catch the bolt as it returns unless you let go of the trigger
i think select fire would be a cool idea


Posted By: mick_collins
Date Posted: 09 July 2004 at 2:40pm

Originally posted by ?Took? ?Took? wrote:

WEll he is retarded. he cant pull of 30 bps

some modern gasblow back smgs can pull off 40+ but they have muzzle velocities that are much higher than that of o paintballgun could or is aloud to fire at

i wouldnt say retarded but i would say reaching for something that probably wont happen unless he has a multi bolt system



Posted By: Homer J
Date Posted: 09 July 2004 at 3:17pm
Originally posted by ?Took? ?Took? wrote:

WEll he is retarded. he cant pull of 30 bps

Not necessary. Flames = bad.


Posted By: 98c Dude13
Date Posted: 09 July 2004 at 9:11pm
What about the gun on the Hell hound, I bet that shoots fast.

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Posted By: Joseph Manton
Date Posted: 09 July 2004 at 9:43pm
Thanks for your input.  It would be exactly like mick_collins said.  Oh yeah... I'm not retarded


Posted By: mick_collins
Date Posted: 12 July 2004 at 5:09pm
the hellhound is fured by an actual handhell power drill that rotates and fires out of two barrels at the same time, so the real speed is 25 bps for 2 different guns that are put together as one and fire out of alternating barrels


Posted By: Drew G
Date Posted: 12 July 2004 at 5:45pm
your idea would take to long to complete one cycle, no way it could hit 30. You couldnt pull 30 anyways. a full auto race can hit 30.

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Posted By: bababooie
Date Posted: 12 July 2004 at 5:51pm
why not jsut get a firestorm crank?!@? its highly legal in games

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Posted By: spydero99
Date Posted: 12 July 2004 at 6:30pm

Originally posted by ?Took? ?Took? wrote:

WEll he is retarded. he cant pull of 30 bps

i can get 45 bps out of my BE blade



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Posted By: jigglydude
Date Posted: 12 July 2004 at 7:27pm
Originally posted by bababooie bababooie wrote:

why not jsut get a firestorm crank?!@? its highly legal in games
because u lose stability from using it


ok so back to the feeder idea, i dont think you could make a marker cycle and use the cycle to feed to run the loader and reach 30bps


Posted By: Homer J
Date Posted: 12 July 2004 at 9:58pm
The only thing I'd use a crank for is a stationary gun.


Posted By: tc3rocks
Date Posted: 15 July 2004 at 6:52pm
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Posted By: MetallicaESPa5
Date Posted: 15 July 2004 at 7:47pm

AHHH thats huge!



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Posted By: tc3rules
Date Posted: 16 July 2004 at 11:23am
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Posted By: tc3rules
Date Posted: 16 July 2004 at 11:25am
uin


Posted By: thecorpseman
Date Posted: 16 July 2004 at 3:06pm
Not 45 bps spydero unless u got the full auto board. NO ONE
can pull 45 bps.


Posted By: 98c - baller
Date Posted: 18 July 2004 at 4:15pm
there are gun that can pull 36 bps wit a new board
http://www.scenariodreams.com/t-board.htm - http://www.scenariodreams.com/t-board.htm


Posted By: jigglydude
Date Posted: 18 July 2004 at 8:56pm
alright people time to explain boards in guns and the abiltiy of guns.

just because the board can tell the gun to fire 483648376 in 1 second doesnt mean the gun can.

to put it in easy to understand terms incase my 8 year old sister comes onto the forum: if i tell you to jump 1 foot in the air every 5 seconds, you can do it, but if i tell you to jump 500 feet every .0001 seconds, even though im capable of telling you to do it, you cant do it


Posted By: PaintBsniper
Date Posted: 01 August 2004 at 8:14pm
One word gravity. The balls can only fall down the elbow so fast. Even if one day they make a gun that can fire 1 million times a secound they are still going to be restricted by gravity unless they make some sort of extremely high tech system but today that is completely out of the question.


Posted By: warmonger83
Date Posted: 02 August 2004 at 12:08am
Originally posted by spydero99 spydero99 wrote:

Originally posted by ?Took? ?Took? wrote:

WEll he is retarded. he cant pull of 30 bps


i can get 45 bps out of my BE blade



maybe 45 bpm... but not bps...

as for a revolver... do you mean a revolving barrel or a revolving chamber to load the balls for each shot?

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Posted By: holysmartone
Date Posted: 02 August 2004 at 12:33am
Ok, so I think this is definatly a POSSIBILITY. You have a lot of techinical barriers to overcome. A feed system would be difficult. Also I have no idea how you would go about doing much of anything on this. I have no idea how you could acheive 30bps without multiple bolts. But then again, I read a story about a guy that created a real gun which fires 1 million rounds a minute. So I think it is very possible to create a 30bps paintball gun. I say more power to you and good luck.


Posted By: infected being
Date Posted: 02 August 2004 at 12:24pm
For everyone that thinks 30 bps can't happen, what about the Angel 4 Fly?? If I'm correct, they can and have hit 31 bps. Just my input... Sorry if it's off topic.

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Posted By: PaintBsniper
Date Posted: 02 August 2004 at 12:42pm

Originally posted by infected being infected being wrote:

For everyone that thinks 30 bps can't happen, what about the Angel 4 Fly?? If I'm correct, they can and have hit 31 bps. Just my input... Sorry if it's off topic.

I think that yes it can actually shoot that fast but I dont think that it really can do to gravity and the current hopper tech. Paintball can only drop down so fast down the elbow and if you do a little calculation you will find that it is near impossible CURRENTLY to get paintballs down a elbow at that speed.



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Posted By: paintballman_13
Date Posted: 02 August 2004 at 2:25pm
Originally posted by PaintBsniper PaintBsniper wrote:

Originally posted by infected being infected being wrote:

For everyone that thinks 30 bps can't happen, what about the Angel 4 Fly?? If I'm correct, they can and have hit 31 bps. Just my input... Sorry if it's off topic.


I think that yes it can actually shoot that fast but I dont think that it really can do to gravity and the current hopper tech. Paintball can only drop down so fast down the elbow and if you do a little calculation you will find that it is near impossible CURRENTLY to get paintballs down a elbow at that speed.



Q-loader feeds 30+bps and off the marker it can empty a 100 round pod in 1 second.



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