LPK = hype?
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Topic: LPK = hype?
Posted By: TippmanRULES
Subject: LPK = hype?
Date Posted: 21 July 2004 at 1:42pm
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I seriously dont see a diff when running an LP kit...
whats this hype about? low pressure doesnt nescessarily mean nything, and besides a quieter gun and a cocking knob hitting my face after every other shot, i dont see whats so good about this lpk... well theres $120 down the drain. 
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Posted By: chrisishott3
Date Posted: 21 July 2004 at 2:10pm
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lpk for what gun? ------------- Live Strong Wear Yellow |
Posted By: Fast Splat
Date Posted: 21 July 2004 at 2:13pm
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Me nether but they sound cool and look cool. That's two things on LP's side.
------------- **MY SETUP!** WGP 04 ProStock Autococker Worrblade Delrin Bolt **SOON TO COME** Nexus Ram & QEV's CP Shorty Reg CP On/Off & Rail System And some other cool stuff!! |
TippmanRULES wrote:
Posted By: maroon out
Date Posted: 21 July 2004 at 2:17pm
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LP does not and can not, by itself, improve range, accuracy, consistency or gas efficiency. Look at a Phantom - 50 shots per 12-gram and amazing accuracy, but that 12-gram puts out better than 800 psi on a warm day.
"Low Pressure" is a *result*, not a goal. It's a *side effect*. You do NOT modify your gun simply to get the operating pressure down. You modify your gun for better *efficiency*, which, in turn, allows you to lower the operating pressure. Or rather, requires you to in order to keep the velocity legal. The goal here is to "improve efficiency" not just "lower pressure". And as far as efficiency is concerned, tuning is the key. All you have to do is take the time and thought to experiment. ------------- Watch your thoughts they become words Watch your words they become actions Watch your actions they become habits Watch your habits they become character Watch your character it becomes your destin |
Posted By: sugarfree
Date Posted: 21 July 2004 at 2:24pm
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So he spent $120 on efficiency? I still dont think its worth it. ------------- Signatures are **edited** |
Posted By: Large Unit
Date Posted: 21 July 2004 at 2:27pm
| Most stuff about low pressure helping is not proven, but you do notice alot less barrel breaks once getting it, not worth it IMO but oh well. |
Posted By: Tippsy98
Date Posted: 21 July 2004 at 2:38pm
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i like it it makes it look alot different from a stock tippmann i think it shots alot better my opion ------------- i have a tippmann |
Posted By: TippmanRULES
Date Posted: 21 July 2004 at 2:58pm
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hell no... i didnt buy the lpk to "lower" the pressure... i thought the effects were much better than what i got.
bah, i wish i stayed HP... its not worth the extra 200 shots i saved... and i agree, $120 for efficiency? pfft. |
Posted By: [FI]
Date Posted: 21 July 2004 at 3:02pm
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It seems like you are...frustrated. I don't see why, you were the one that made the purchase. You should have done a bit more research before buying into hype (no pun on the "hype"). Perhaps next time you will learn more about the product before you spend the money? An expensive lesson. Just be glad it wasn't having your bumper torn off because instead of reading the directions and attaching the winch to the frame, they put it on the bump and tore it off.
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Posted By: TippmanRULES
Date Posted: 21 July 2004 at 4:11pm
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what kind of analogy is that? something you pulled out of your butt?
what do you mean i didnt do research, i read up on everything, even considered to make my own. and i read how horribly the V/A was designed which starved your marker... i even ported it for more air flow. tippmann made it sound too good... it is HYPE. im not pleased with this upgrade at all. yes im frustrated... i thought the rear cocking thing didnt come back that far... its like a freaking turd popping out every shot and hitting my mask. either way, ill be ebaying the lpkit for 20 dollars and letting somebody else have fun with it. |
Posted By: PlentifulBalls
Date Posted: 21 July 2004 at 4:25pm
I havent gotten a barrel break in a while. And I shoot c02 and have a J&J Ceramic. ------------- 
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Posted By: ItalianStallion
Date Posted: 21 July 2004 at 4:30pm
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lol y dont u guys read up on it. Never did it say it will increase accuracy. All low pressure does is increase gas eff., reduce recoil, reduce noise of your gun, and less wear on your internals. Which is worth it in my opinion. ------------- Reviews may be harsh,But all IMO,so dont get offended.I just say what I think of your gun.You posted it for review rite? Dont get somethin worse just cuz it cost less,save and get somethin good! |
Posted By: TippmanRULES
Date Posted: 21 July 2004 at 4:36pm
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i never said i was pissed cause there was no accuracy improvement...
there are improvements, but not worth the 120. |
Posted By: shooky
Date Posted: 22 July 2004 at 9:59am
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That's all really a matter of opinion. Some of us think it's worth the cost. Paintball isn't really about money (unless you have none, in which case, shouldn't you be saving your money?).
And if you had been doing the research like you said you did, surely you would have came across several of my posts that lists the benefits of the low pressure kit and the advice that it is up to the player to decide whether or not the low pressure kit is worth the purchase. |
Posted By: 5950
Date Posted: 22 July 2004 at 1:24pm
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^^ yep ------------- arguing on the interent is like running in the special olympics, even if you win you are still retarded |
Posted By: TippmanRULES
Date Posted: 22 July 2004 at 6:16pm
| i guess i was kinda pissed cause this money coulda been spent on my timmy. |
Posted By: Mr.Green
Date Posted: 22 July 2004 at 6:18pm
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Again it all boils down to funds and what you feel is right for you. But like Stallion said it will reduce recoil , noise and wear and tear on your internals. Plus ever sweet spot your response and have the gun "freeze"-pressure increase, then start slinging paint like a wagner power sprayer ? Thats not gonna happen with compressed air or nitro, because unlike co2 they're they're more stabil hence better shot to shot consistancy. If you break a ball w/ the LPK it's usually because you've got shmeg or somthin in the barrel / you chopped the ball because your not feeding as fast as your shooting, or the usual, the person didn't take the time to dial the marker in properly and as a result pressure is high and velocity is turned up.
------------- 98 custom,R/T w/macro line,quick strip recievers,blowback venting,LP kit,modified madman kit,milled rear site&site rail,doubble trigg w/stop,Sm-1 barrel kit,92/4500 crossfire(blue label),custom paint. |
I've had mine for a long time now w/ no problems. Look at what most tourney teams and playas use . As for that LPK for $20, dude ill give you $40 for it set up all the shipping and costs just PM me if your serious.Posted By: ang.1
Date Posted: 23 July 2004 at 6:00am
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hmm he said he doesnt like his LPK so how does sweet spotting and HPA have anything to do with his LPK? and if you had a regulator you shouldn't see a great difference in pressure increase |
Posted By: Enos Shenk
Date Posted: 23 July 2004 at 8:17am
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Haha, the hype machine claims another. Ive been saying for a long time, running HPA, low pressure is a waste of time. It doesnt deliver half the crap LP is always hyped up to be. Same with venturi bolts, porting, closed bolt, etc etc. Lowering pressure only has a good benefit for co2, since lowering pressure will cause the liquid co2 to boil off to gas. If you actually care, you should listen to maroon out, he knows exactly what hes talking about. ------------- 
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Posted By: [FI]
Date Posted: 23 July 2004 at 8:43am
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Nice copy-paste job from http://www.northarc.com/~tinker/lowpress.html - Doc's FAQ I'm not sure if this is plagerism, but you def did not give credit where credit is due. |
Posted By: [FI]
Date Posted: 23 July 2004 at 8:54am
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You did all of the research...and yet you still didin't know how far the bolt came back or what it actually did? Did you try one? That's a big part of research, actually trying what you buy! I have never bought anything without trying first (except for a 4-ounce CO2 tank). |
Posted By: Tippsy98
Date Posted: 23 July 2004 at 8:47pm
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the bolt bearly even moves n if u sell it ull get 20 bucks n loose 100 makin it a lose of a 100 bucks ova nothin so i would leave it n loose the extra 20 bucks plus havin the looks n benifits of the lpk ------------- i have a tippmann |
Posted By: TippmanRULES
Date Posted: 23 July 2004 at 9:48pm
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well when you live a plane ticket away from your nearest proshop its kinda hard to try things out ya know...
oh well, im modding it to be top cocking soon, so all will be better. |
Posted By: Bomber Brigade
Date Posted: 23 July 2004 at 11:07pm
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Posted By: Tippsy98
Date Posted: 24 July 2004 at 5:53pm
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top cockin would be cool i would do that if i could but im gettin an e-bolt anyway ------------- i have a tippmann |
Posted By: flankomatic
Date Posted: 24 July 2004 at 7:43pm
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Two things:
The LPK does include a regulator and requires you to use switch to Nitro to take advantage of the new valve and hammer. Your gun will shoot more consistently with all that comes with this kit. Because your air will come out more consistently, you can set your gun to shoot closer to the limit of your field. This means, you CAN shoot farther with more consistency. Another thing. Low pressure is much kinder on thin shelled balls. You can shoot something like really thin All Star. These balls are so thin, they can break if you drop them. You hardly ever get one of these to bounce on someone. You are gauranteed a break. Low pressure allows you to shoot these balls without breaks. ------------- brevity is wit |
Posted By: shooky
Date Posted: 03 August 2004 at 10:12am
The low pressure kit does NOT come with a regulator. It comes with a low pressure chamber. A regulator must be purchased seperately. It says so on both systems on Tippmann's website. You do NOT have to switch to HPA to take advantage of the rear bolt and valve. The rear bolt or valve will not be freeze up and shatter with C02. The reason why Tippmann says you need HPA with your low pressure kit, is because all but 2 or 3 regulators can only use HPA. Their seals just aren't cut out for the colder temperature of C02. If your regulator can handle C02, so can your low pressure kit. |
Posted By: LordJovian
Date Posted: 03 August 2004 at 12:53pm
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I would definately pay the 120 to use brittle balls- the field where I play has the break rule in effect- the ball has to break to count someone out. I don't know how many times I stand in the back dodging and catching paintballs that don't break when and if they hit me. However, I use an A-5 which slams the paintballs into a metal sp.ike so I don't think the LPK would work well for me, unless I mod the sp.ike with foam tape. I usually stand in the back moving side to side watching the field, shooting at longer distances, and I'm constantly screaming at the top of my lungs where the other team members are at for my teammates to find them easier. I also have a tendancy to distract the other team by having them shoot at me and waste paint. I'd be so very screwed if the other team had a good low pressure gun shooting crazy-brittle paintballs. ------------- A-5 E-grip Chipley Custom Carbon Graphite 16" Evil Adapter(Spyder) 32 Deg New '03 XChamber Remote Line Gun Sling Sniper f/x Stock LPK 68/4500 HPA R-5 CP Reg JCS Duel Trigger |
Posted By: 98c-Ownage
Date Posted: 03 August 2004 at 8:55pm
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OMG i guess you people aren't too bright and don't reseach products before you buy them... you buy a LPK to run on HPA ..... to make your HPA tank more effecient.... ------------- 98c Flatline Polished Internals Trigger Stop Double Trigger 32* Remote Redz 2and1 harness Stinless Steel Bolts Those who see me fear me, those who don't see me fear me more - Semper Fi |
Posted By: shooky
Date Posted: 04 August 2004 at 10:04am
I think it's important to point out the differences between barrel breaks and chopping. What you just described is chopping, where the paint gets ripped apart by the front bolt pinching it. Barrel breaks are when the paint breaks inside the barrel from the paint bouncing around inside the barrel as it is coming out. A low pressure kit will help reduce the number of barrel breaks, but it won't do much for chopping. Though some people claim that they experience less chopping with the low pressure kit.
Actually, I did a lot of research before buying my low pressure kit. And, I know that the low pressure kit isn't all that more efficient. You're using less pressure, but in order to get that paintball to go the same velocity as a high pressure marker, you have to use twice the volume of gas to get it that far. Most other high end low pressure markers are indeed more efficient than Tippman low pressure kits, but they are also designed from the start to be low pressure and have a different setup on the internals. The only benefits you get from low pressure kits are: 1) less recoil. 2) less noise. 3) less barrel breaks. |
Posted By: A5 dude15
Date Posted: 04 August 2004 at 10:30am
| wow i dont think that i want to get the lpk any more..........if i really think about it doesnt do that much for your gun, and wouldnt make that big of a difference.....ok |
Posted By: shooky
Date Posted: 04 August 2004 at 10:39am
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The low pressure kit is really a matter of preference, since the benefits are as grand as some people make it out to be.
Personally, I bought the low pressure kit because I thought it the 3 benefits were worth it. |