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Topic: the states isnt that powerfull
Posted By: -Link-
Subject: the states isnt that powerfull
Date Posted: 22 July 2004 at 4:38pm
I have been thinking (Uhh Ohh) and every ones knows how power full the american army is. and how weak the canadians is. but canadas 51 billion dollars in debt and the us is 7 trillion. so if canada spent 6.5 trillion dollars we could get a dam good army. so im not saying that americas army isnt power full just that if a country like canada spent 6.5 trillion on an amry we could have a power full army to. i hope that makes some sense.



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Posted By: spike
Date Posted: 22 July 2004 at 4:42pm
Who needs an army when you have nukes


Posted By: -Link-
Date Posted: 22 July 2004 at 4:43pm
i mean you could get nukes with money. and by power full army i mean nukes


Posted By: tippy_182
Date Posted: 22 July 2004 at 4:47pm
I understand, but Canada would rather spend it on hockey sticks.

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Posted By: -Link-
Date Posted: 22 July 2004 at 4:48pm
lol


Posted By: Sarge14
Date Posted: 22 July 2004 at 4:48pm
Originally posted by **edited**e **edited**e wrote:



Who needs an army when you have nukes


They should be destroyed. They are not needed.

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Posted By: Insomnia_CJ
Date Posted: 22 July 2004 at 4:48pm
Now adays, it doesn't matter how big of an army you have. Its how big your guns are.

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Posted By: :ShockeR_ratm:
Date Posted: 22 July 2004 at 4:49pm

Originally posted by tippy_182 tippy_182 wrote:

I understand, but Canada would rather spend it on hockey sticks.

That's not funny...Coming from an American hockey player



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Posted By: -Link-
Date Posted: 22 July 2004 at 4:51pm

Originally posted by Insomnia_CJ Insomnia_CJ wrote:

Now adays, it doesn't matter how big of an army you have. Its how big your guns are.

thats exactly what i mean. when i say powerful army i mean amount of technology not the numbers.



Posted By: NotDaveEllis
Date Posted: 22 July 2004 at 4:53pm
You dont need armys

You need



Posted By: joeviper
Date Posted: 22 July 2004 at 4:53pm

Originally posted by Insomnia_CJ Insomnia_CJ wrote:

Now adays, it doesn't matter how big of an army you have. Its how big your guns are.

 

Thats true look at chinas man power but they have **edited**ty weapons



Posted By: tippy_182
Date Posted: 22 July 2004 at 4:54pm
Originally posted by :ShockeR_ratm: :ShockeR_ratm: wrote:

Originally posted by tippy_182 tippy_182 wrote:

I understand, but Canada would rather spend it on hockey sticks.

That's not funny...Coming from an American hockey player



Curling brushes instead?


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Posted By: xteam02001
Date Posted: 22 July 2004 at 4:54pm
Yeah, i dont get it.

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Posted By: FalloutMan
Date Posted: 22 July 2004 at 5:01pm
Originally posted by NotDaveEllis NotDaveEllis wrote:

You dont need armys

You need




make red x's not war?

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Posted By: jmac3
Date Posted: 22 July 2004 at 5:01pm

If I'm not mistaken, America doesn't get all its debt from the army.



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Posted By: joeviper
Date Posted: 22 July 2004 at 5:04pm
alot of it is from war


Posted By: Ph34r
Date Posted: 22 July 2004 at 5:05pm
Originally posted by :ShockeR_ratm: :ShockeR_ratm: wrote:

 

That's not funny...Coming from an American hockey player

I have to agree as a hockey player as well. What position do you play ratm?

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Posted By: joeviper
Date Posted: 22 July 2004 at 5:08pm
but we do overspend on our military


Posted By: fractus.scud
Date Posted: 22 July 2004 at 5:16pm

Canada has no need for an army. It's like they are just there.



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Posted By: spike
Date Posted: 22 July 2004 at 5:23pm

Originally posted by tippy_182 tippy_182 wrote:

I understand, but Canada would rather spend it on hockey sticks.
` Sell Hockey sticks to Americans.



Posted By: -Link-
Date Posted: 22 July 2004 at 5:48pm
yup i dont want canada to get an army.


Posted By: Jeremy578
Date Posted: 22 July 2004 at 5:51pm
Canada is a rather pansey country. But yet, they have been on a lot of peace keeping missions and supplies other coutries at war. US could easily take out Canada but it would blow because its cold up there so it wouldnt be worth it.

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Posted By: impulse
Date Posted: 22 July 2004 at 5:53pm
Yay were in debt.

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Posted By: -Link-
Date Posted: 22 July 2004 at 5:55pm

Originally posted by Jeremy578 Jeremy578 wrote:

Canada is a rather pansey country. But yet, they have been on a lot of peace keeping missions and supplies other coutries at war. US could easily take out Canada but it would blow because its cold up there so it wouldnt be worth it.

fore one the u.s. couldnt take out canada. and two you should die you <Removed>. You obviusly know nothing of canada if you think its cold up here.



Posted By: [FI]
Date Posted: 22 July 2004 at 6:53pm
Originally posted by -Link- -Link- wrote:

Originally posted by Jeremy578 Jeremy578 wrote:

Canada is a rather pansey country. But yet, they have been on a lot of peace keeping missions and supplies other coutries at war. US could easily take out Canada but it would blow because its cold up there so it wouldnt be worth it.

fore one the u.s. couldnt take out canada. and two <Removed> You obviusly know nothing of canada if you think its cold up here.

That seemed somewhat...unnecessary

 



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Posted By: Frozen Balls
Date Posted: 22 July 2004 at 6:59pm
I heard that Canadians walk around everywhere in bear skins and snow shoes.

Is that true?

edit: choopie killed it...


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Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 22 July 2004 at 7:02pm
As I said before: "Ahh, the tippmann forum, where stupid stereotypes come out."

1: no, the bear skin thing is false.
2: Not all of canada is colder than the states Jeremy578, recently it was above 90f here, around 100, and I live in the Yukon, so know what you are talking about before you go around making yourself look like a moron. Thanks


Posted By: Solipsism
Date Posted: 22 July 2004 at 7:02pm
Wow gjht signal

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Posted By: Skerjman
Date Posted: 22 July 2004 at 7:03pm
I heard that Canadians don't tell their children about the myth of Santa Claus. When December rolls around, they entertain their kids with stories of Saint Oh, a skinny man with a pencil thin mustache who likes to stab people with an ice pick. Is any of this true?

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Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 22 July 2004 at 7:06pm
Originally posted by Skerjman Skerjman wrote:

I heard that Canadians don't tell their children about the myth of Santa Claus. When December rolls around, they entertain their kids with stories of Saint Oh, a skinny man with a pencil thin mustache who likes to stab people with an ice pick. Is any of this true?


I hate that fact site, as I just told you on IRC... That is like saying "Americans don't beleive in food, they just show their kids pictures of food." Yes, it is that stupid...


Posted By: Skerjman
Date Posted: 22 July 2004 at 7:08pm
calm down, it's just a joke site, I guess it's a fact that canadians take everything too seriously

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Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 22 July 2004 at 7:21pm
Originally posted by Skerjman Skerjman wrote:

calm down, it's just a joke site, I guess it's a fact that canadians take everything too seriously


Again the stereotypes    NOW CUT IT OUT YOU AMERICAN, IT ISN'T FUNNY!!!!!!














Posted By: fractus.scud
Date Posted: 22 July 2004 at 7:25pm
wow, all this because someone said Canada "could" have a big army. And for the record, America could take Canada over, but why should we? and the UN would never deal with us again. But America could take over Canada, but we won't because Canada is a friendly nation, and we just wouldnt.

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Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 22 July 2004 at 7:30pm
Originally posted by fractus.scud fractus.scud wrote:

we just wouldnt.


Plain and simple, right there. We were good in WW1, then our army was way too big, so they sold it all off, then never put money into rebuilding it, now we are behind.


Posted By: -Link-
Date Posted: 22 July 2004 at 7:38pm

Originally posted by fractus.scud fractus.scud wrote:

wow, all this because someone said Canada "could" have a big army. And for the record, America could take Canada over, but why should we? and the UN would never deal with us again. But America could take over Canada, but we won't because Canada is a friendly nation, and we just wouldnt.

exactly.



Posted By: [FI]
Date Posted: 22 July 2004 at 7:41pm

Originally posted by choopie911 choopie911 wrote:

Originally posted by fractus.scud fractus.scud wrote:

we just wouldnt.


Plain and simple, right there. We were good in WW1, then our army was way too big, so they sold it all off, then never put money into rebuilding it, now we are behind.

Which is why America is better (just kidding, just kidding)



Posted By: :ShockeR_ratm:
Date Posted: 22 July 2004 at 8:07pm
Originally posted by Ph34r Ph34r wrote:

Originally posted by :ShockeR_ratm: :ShockeR_ratm: wrote:

 

That's not funny...Coming from an American hockey player

I have to agree as a hockey player as well. What position do you play ratm?

Defense of course...I'm a heavy hitter...I like to knock everyone around



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Posted By: Random_Person
Date Posted: 22 July 2004 at 9:16pm

Canada's cool, i went to Niagra Falls once, and the Canadian side is WAY better than the American side.  the only thing about Canada is the bacon tastes kinda funny.

and a lot of funny comedians come from Canada, and Canada has 3 A's in it and thats just plain pimp



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Posted By: CarbineKid
Date Posted: 22 July 2004 at 9:38pm
Well two things come to mind. First the world relies on the US to protect it, and 2) It doesn't matter what size your army is, you must have the guts to use it. Thats why countries like france are irrelavant.


Posted By: Ph34r
Date Posted: 22 July 2004 at 10:10pm
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Posted By: Ajreaper
Date Posted: 22 July 2004 at 10:11pm
Originally posted by -Link- -Link- wrote:

I have been thinking (Uhh Ohh) and every ones knows how power full the american army is. and how weak the canadians is. but canadas 51 billion dollars in debt and the us is 7 trillion. so if canada spent 6.5 trillion dollars we could get a dam good army. so im not saying that americas army isnt power full just that if a country like canada spent 6.5 trillion on an amry we could have a power full army to. i hope that makes some sense.


Woke up this morning feeling a little insecure did we? But before you get all warm & fuzzy over your post think about a few things- like the US has a much larger population, a space program and spends many times what Canada does on things like aid to foreign countries the UN ect. It's not quite as cut and dry as you try to make it.


Posted By: matt06
Date Posted: 22 July 2004 at 10:16pm
i think after reading this thread..my IQ has dropped 10 points..but, owell, Ill add to it.


I heard canadiens have to dress up in fur coats and wear snow shoes. And they live in houses made out of ice, and have to go ice fishing to survive.


Posted By: Ph34r
Date Posted: 22 July 2004 at 10:18pm

That sarcasm is so thick you can cut it with a knife.

EDIT: 777 posts WOOT!



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Posted By: paintballman_13
Date Posted: 22 July 2004 at 10:29pm
Originally posted by Ajreaper Ajreaper wrote:

Originally posted by -Link- -Link- wrote:

I have been thinking (Uhh Ohh) and every ones knows how power full the american army is. and how weak the canadians is. but canadas 51 billion dollars in debt and the us is 7 trillion. so if canada spent 6.5 trillion dollars we could get a dam good army. so im not saying that americas army isnt power full just that if a country like canada spent 6.5 trillion on an amry we could have a power full army to. i hope that makes some sense.


Woke up this morning feeling a little insecure did we? But before you get all warm & fuzzy over your post think about a few things- like the US has a much larger population, a space program and spends many times what Canada does on things like aid to foreign countries the UN ect. It's not quite as cut and dry as you try to make it.


Out of our total GNP, Canada spends more money on foreign aid than the US does.


Posted By: PlentifulBalls
Date Posted: 22 July 2004 at 11:01pm
Last time I checked, we were in a huge "comflict". Maybe thats why our debt is so large.

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Posted By: Ajreaper
Date Posted: 22 July 2004 at 11:22pm
Originally posted by paintballman_13 paintballman_13 wrote:

Originally posted by Ajreaper Ajreaper wrote:

Originally posted by -Link- -Link- wrote:

I have been thinking (Uhh Ohh) and every ones knows how power full the american army is. and how weak the canadians is. but canadas 51 billion dollars in debt and the us is 7 trillion. so if canada spent 6.5 trillion dollars we could get a dam good army. so im not saying that americas army isnt power full just that if a country like canada spent 6.5 trillion on an amry we could have a power full army to. i hope that makes some sense.


Woke up this morning feeling a little insecure did we? But before you get all warm & fuzzy over your post think about a few things- like the US has a much larger population, a space program and spends many times what Canada does on things like aid to foreign countries the UN ect. It's not quite as cut and dry as you try to make it.


Out of our total GNP, Canada spends more money on foreign aid than the US does.


LOL- are you apoligizing for having an embarrassing GNP?

You know why Canada does not need to have a huge military? Cause it shares the block with the biggest, baddest dawg there is and they know the big dawg ain't going to let anything happen on there block so why should Cananda worry about anything?


Posted By: spike
Date Posted: 23 July 2004 at 12:12am

Originally posted by Ajreaper Ajreaper wrote:

Originally posted by paintballman_13 paintballman_13 wrote:

Originally posted by Ajreaper Ajreaper wrote:

Originally posted by -Link- -Link- wrote:

I have been thinking (Uhh Ohh) and every ones knows how power full the american army is. and how weak the canadians is. but canadas 51 billion dollars in debt and the us is 7 trillion. so if canada spent 6.5 trillion dollars we could get a dam good army. so im not saying that americas army isnt power full just that if a country like canada spent 6.5 trillion on an amry we could have a power full army to. i hope that makes some sense.


Woke up this morning feeling a little insecure did we? But before you get all warm & fuzzy over your post think about a few things- like the US has a much larger population, a space program and spends many times what Canada does on things like aid to foreign countries the UN ect. It's not quite as cut and dry as you try to make it.


Out of our total GNP, Canada spends more money on foreign aid than the US does.


LOL- are you apoligizing for having an embarrassing GNP?

You know why Canada does not need to have a huge military? Cause it shares the block with the biggest, baddest dawg there is and they know the big dawg ain't going to let anything happen on there block so why should Cananda worry about anything?

You know that saying

"Todays Allies Are Tomorrows Enemys. Todays Ememy Is Tommorows Ally" Canada has nukes remember that or everybody looses.



Posted By: kwkmrorange
Date Posted: 23 July 2004 at 12:17am

Well I am a Canadian. And I'll jus say a couple things. We arnt as good as we think. Especially when it comes to foreigh aid. Of the top 22 industrialised countries we rank 17th for the amount of aid given. And 19th in the amount of peacekeeping we do. ( I read this in a time magazine at the dentist the other day)

As for spending 6.5 billion dollars on a military with around 50 thousand people that  are ready to go, I somehow think that dosnt make sence. I'll admit our military is lacking but we dont need to spend all that money on it. Especially when there are so many better places it could be spent.  One thing you have to give us credit for though is all the equipment we desighn. Like the c-7 assualt rifle which is being intergrated into the American Army due to how much better it is then the M-16. We also desighned the camo that is being intergrated into the american army and the night vision goggles.

Here is something to think about though when you think about military spending. If the whole world didnt spend any money on wars, or militaries or what not for two weeks and you took that money you could eliminate poverty with it.



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Posted By: AdamForester
Date Posted: 23 July 2004 at 12:21am

America's deficit is so staggeringly large because we import more than we export, NOT due to a massive spending orgy on the military.

Americans like fancy things that we can't produce here in the US. Ever notice that almost everything we buy says "Produced in (Insert Country Name Here)".



Posted By: PaINtToXiN
Date Posted: 23 July 2004 at 12:25am

All the things mentioned in this thread makes me proud to be Canadian.  Canada does not value weapons of mass destruction, or war, instead we value health care, and education.  If some bully of a country would want to take us over, I say let them. That is the attitude that has won the U.S. so many enemies, and the attitude that continues to encourage war.  So if you want to keep "protecting" the world, I'll see you after the fall out.



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Posted By: 636andy636
Date Posted: 23 July 2004 at 1:20am
all i can say



Posted By: new002
Date Posted: 23 July 2004 at 2:37am
Originally posted by PaINtToXiN PaINtToXiN wrote:

All the things mentioned in this thread makes me proud to be Canadian.  Canada does not value weapons of mass destruction, or war,

---We are in combat operations in Afghanistan and other places.  You do realize this?

 instead we value health care,

----You haven't been to a hospital for serious care in the last 5 years have you? The line up (wait) for MRI scans can exceed 6 months. It has gotten to the point were Canadians are going to the U.S. to get these tests done and bringing the results back to their Canadian family doctors.

and education.

--- Based on how terrible a lot of us spell, I would question that too.

  If some bully of a country would want to take us over, I say let them.

--- Yes, North Korea and China are such a wonderful freedom loving places. (NOT).

---Did you know that after having one child the China government has the power to cut your (privates) off (neuter) so you don't have any more kids.

That is the attitude that has won the U.S. so many enemies, and the attitude that continues to encourage war.

---The U.S. stayed out of WWI and WWII until later, Canadians were fighting both of those wars early, isolationists and doing nothing cost millions of lives by allowing Hitler to gain in power and influence.

  So if you want to keep "protecting" the world, I'll see you after the fall out.

---If terrorists ever get their hands on nukes, we are all up poop creek.





Posted By: Ajreaper
Date Posted: 23 July 2004 at 11:54am
Originally posted by PaINtToXiN PaINtToXiN wrote:

That is the attitude that has won the U.S. so many enemies, and the attitude that continues to encourage war.  So if you want to keep "protecting" the world, I'll see you after the fall out.



Well that pretty much says it all now doesn't it? "If some bully of a country would want to take us over, I say let them." WOW!! I won't even say a word I'll let the Canadians here waste this guy (hint look under rocks, in gutters or perhaps a dress shop or two- I think that's where cowards hide mostly).


Posted By: munky!
Date Posted: 23 July 2004 at 12:04pm
Originally posted by NotDaveEllis NotDaveEllis wrote:

You dont need armys

You need



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Posted By: spike
Date Posted: 23 July 2004 at 1:16pm
Originally posted by Ajreaper Ajreaper wrote:

Originally posted by PaINtToXiN PaINtToXiN wrote:

That is the attitude that has won the U.S. so many enemies, and the attitude that continues to encourage war.  So if you want to keep "protecting" the world, I'll see you after the fall out.



Well that pretty much says it all now doesn't it? "If some bully of a country would want to take us over, I say let them." WOW!! I won't even say a word I'll let the Canadians here waste this guy (hint look under rocks, in gutters or perhaps a dress shop or two- I think that's where cowards hide mostly).

The US is cousing alot more damage than good. "Our way is better". That sounds alot more like a dictatorship or Facism to me. Each country is entitled to handle its own problems its own way. Everyone here in Canada feels like this way. I bet if war broke out here American troops would be called in to Protect the oil resourses in Alberta. Americans listen up mind your own business. If that did happen And most of the troops went to those locations youlll have lots more problems. And the truth about you would be revealed. Pay back is a **edited**. I am Canadian!

  



Posted By: SandMan
Date Posted: 23 July 2004 at 1:17pm
Originally posted by PaINtToXiN PaINtToXiN wrote:

If some bully of a country would want to take us over, I say let them. So if you want to keep "protecting" the world, I'll see you after the fall out.



That's one of the stupidest things I've ever heard.

If a bully country were to take you over, what good would all your precious medicine and education be??? They'd take what they wanted, make you slaves, and plunge you back into the dark ages if they could.

Oh, and... Don't go getting pompous about all the ways you think Canada is better than the United States. The truth is, the people of the United States are more free than the people in any other country anywhere.

That is both our pride and our shame. Because, given freedom, a great many people choose to do and to be nothing.

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Posted By: spike
Date Posted: 23 July 2004 at 1:21pm
No your not it costs .25 cents for asprin in one of your Hospitals. Free here dude!


Posted By: [FI]
Date Posted: 23 July 2004 at 1:24pm
Originally posted by **edited**e **edited**e wrote:



The US is cousing alot more damage than good. "Our way is better". That sounds alot more like a dictatorship or Facism to me. Each country is entitled to handle its own problems its own way. Everyone here in Canada feels like this way. I bet if war broke out here American troops would be called in to Protect the oil resourses in Alberta. Americans listen up mind your own business. If that did happen And most of the troops went to those locations youlll have lots more problems. And the truth about you would be revealed. Pay back is a **edited**. I am Canadian!

Yes, because I'm sure that you are the spokesman and policy maker for Canada

I'm sure your 5,000-man Air Force made up of Canadian Geese will swoop down over the frozen tundras and across our borders, dropping so much crap on our windshields that we won't be able to drive to work and our economy will come to a screeching halt.



Posted By: spike
Date Posted: 23 July 2004 at 1:25pm
Is it true american troops have to pay for there ammo hahahhahahha


Posted By: SandMan
Date Posted: 23 July 2004 at 1:27pm
Originally posted by **edited**e **edited**e wrote:


The US is cousing alot more damage than good. "Our way is better". That sounds alot more like a dictatorship or Facism to me. Each country is entitled to handle its own problems its own way. Everyone here in Canada feels like this way. I bet if war broke out here American troops would be called in to Protect the oil resourses in Alberta. Americans listen up mind your own business. If that did happen And most of the troops went to those locations youlll have lots more problems. And the truth about you would be revealed. Pay back is a **edited**. I am Canadian!




Put simply, you've got no idea what you're talking about.
Canada leans on the United States for a great many things and has for a long time.

Who keeps a watchful eye on the entire coast of North America? The United States does, about 90 miles from where I'm sitting in Cheyenne Mountain. You may have heard of it. It's called NORAD and Canada needs it just as much, if not more, than the US does.

I'm not arguing that the USA is superior to Canada; mostly because such an argument is pointless due to the immeasurable nature of the subject. The two nations are different and they lean on each other in a great many ways.


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Posted By: [FI]
Date Posted: 23 July 2004 at 1:27pm

Originally posted by **edited**e **edited**e wrote:

Is it true american troops have to pay for there ammo hahahhahahha

Is it true that Lady Mary Jane has been de-criminalized in Canada?



Posted By: SandMan
Date Posted: 23 July 2004 at 1:28pm
Originally posted by **edited**e **edited**e wrote:

No your not it costs .25 cents for asprin in one of your Hospitals. Free here dude!


Nothing is ever free.

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Posted By: SandMan
Date Posted: 23 July 2004 at 1:30pm
You really don't want to bring up the topic of money in a USA versus Canada discussion. I'd be willing to bet that Manhattan alone generates more revenue than any single Canadian province in the space of a year. I'm confident it generates more revenue than any other single city in the world.

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Posted By: Daniel Webber
Date Posted: 23 July 2004 at 1:31pm

Jeez, Choopies effort to shut these ignorant morons up has failed miserably.

Sandman, how is the United States more free than Canada?

Ajreaper, you think Canada doesn't put any money into the space program? Last time I checked, the Space Shuttles Robotic Arm had the words "Canada" and Canada's flag pasted across it. We might not put as much as the U.S. does into space, but atleast we contribute all that we can.

Either way, we ranked higher on the "Quality of Life" Scale by the U.N. then the United States did, so that pretty much sums it up there.



Posted By: [FI]
Date Posted: 23 July 2004 at 1:33pm
Originally posted by Daniel Webber Daniel Webber wrote:

Either way, we ranked either on the "Quality of Life" Scale by the U.N. then the United States did, so that pretty much sums it up there.

What?

Edit- Are you speaking French? (No, you are speaking English...so much for Canada's higher edumacation plan, lol...just kidding...I'll never make a serious insult to anyone's intelligence)

Edit- And is weed decriminalized in Canada?

Edit- If people paid that $.25 for Advil and soldiers bought their bullets, then they could afford to put more into the space program?

Edit- Sure, you may have a higher quality of life...but who has more money?



Posted By: Daniel Webber
Date Posted: 23 July 2004 at 1:36pm

[FI], it's fixed.

Also, Marijuana has been de-criminalized for MEDICAL use. However, I want this stupid law to be thrown in the trash. Morphine (spelling?) is stronger than Marijuana, so the "Marijuana gets rid of the pain" excuse doesn't cut it.

Hmmmm, it doesn't matter which country has more money. Were a smaller country with 1/10 of the population. Of course the U.S. will have more money. Both countries Gross Domestic Product per capita is relativly close too.



Posted By: SandMan
Date Posted: 23 July 2004 at 1:40pm
Originally posted by Daniel Webber Daniel Webber wrote:

Jeez, Choopies effort to shut these ignorant morons up has failed miserably.


Sandman, how is the United States more free than Canada?


Either way, we ranked either on the "Quality of Life" Scale by the U.N. then the United States did, so that pretty much sums it up there.



I certainly hope you're not including me in the "ignorant morons" generalisation. If you are, you should know better.

You honestly take the UN's opinions seriously? They're a clogged bureaucracy who've grossly outlived their usefulness.

Regarding freedom, from firearms to medical care to what we show on television and play on the radio, people of the United States are more free to do and think as they wish than they are anywhere else in the world. That is my observation, garnered from having visited, lived, and/or served in about a dozen countries spanning five continents.


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Posted By: Bunkered
Date Posted: 23 July 2004 at 1:44pm
Originally posted by SandMan SandMan wrote:

Originally posted by Daniel Webber Daniel Webber wrote:

Jeez, Choopies effort to shut these ignorant morons up has failed miserably.


Sandman, how is the United States more free than Canada?


Either way, we ranked either on the "Quality of Life" Scale by the U.N. then the United States did, so that pretty much sums it up there.





You honestly take the UN's opinions seriously? They're a clogged bureaucracy who've grossly outlived their usefulness.




I believe that sums up everything I was going to say about the UN...

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Posted By: SandMan
Date Posted: 23 July 2004 at 1:46pm
Oh, and, to the original premise of this thread...

You can't just buy the power of the Armed Forces of the United States of America. If you could, a lot of countries would. A great deal of our defense budget goes into research and development of technologies we don't make available on the world market.

When you say the "States isn't that powerful", you're talking about the Armed Forces who completely embarrassed the 4th largest standing army in the world. Twice.

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Posted By: spike
Date Posted: 23 July 2004 at 1:49pm

The only real reason why America has a economy is Oil, that you get from Saudies and Canadians. Our hard working people jerk are the reason why you have what you have. Hey wait a minute Iam on to something.

Lets all stop buying american products. No more cheesy movies. Wait some american products are made elsewhere, like Canada then sold back to us for higher the cost. You guys ow us not the other way around.

Do you now that california buys some of its power from British Columbia.  

How do you define ammerica: Money thats all. You are not free and we are right on top of you. Where you go we go. And that sucks.



Posted By: [FI]
Date Posted: 23 July 2004 at 1:53pm
Originally posted by **edited**e **edited**e wrote:

No more cheesy movies. Wait some american products are made elsewhere, like Canada then sold back to us for higher the cost. You guys ow us not the other way around.

Do you now that california buys some of its power from British Columbia.  

So you are blaming us because your people are too ignorant to realize that they are getting jipped? LMBO!!! That is hilarious!

Remember when the powergrid went down in the US? Power went down in Canada too...so...what's your point? We get power from you and you get power from us...? What's the problem.



Posted By: Bunkered
Date Posted: 23 July 2004 at 1:57pm
**edited**e... you are being ignorant. I suggest you don't dig yourself farther into a hole... I'd hate to see you get burned when people like OldSoldier, SandMan, and others (myself when I get back from work) really start in...

*Edit: "$pike" keeps turning into "**edited**e."

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Posted By: spike
Date Posted: 23 July 2004 at 2:02pm
Bunkered who are you talking to.


Posted By: SandMan
Date Posted: 23 July 2004 at 2:03pm
Originally posted by **edited**e **edited**e wrote:


How do you define ammerica: Money thats all. You are not free and we are right on top of you. Where you go we go. And that sucks.



How is the geographical relationship relevant at all?

Oil is a major driving factor behind the world economy. But the US economy is much broader than that. You embarrass yourself and your country by claiming otherwise.

Stop riding party lines and actually think about what you're saying.

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Posted By: paintballman_13
Date Posted: 23 July 2004 at 2:10pm
Originally posted by SandMan SandMan wrote:

Originally posted by **edited**e **edited**e wrote:


The US is cousing alot more damage than good. "Our way is better". That sounds alot more like a dictatorship or Facism to me. Each country is entitled to handle its own problems its own way. Everyone here in Canada feels like this way. I bet if war broke out here American troops would be called in to Protect the oil resourses in Alberta. Americans listen up mind your own business. If that did happen And most of the troops went to those locations youlll have lots more problems. And the truth about you would be revealed. Pay back is a **edited**. I am Canadian!




Put simply, you've got no idea what you're talking about.
Canada leans on the United States for a great many things and has for a long time.

Who keeps a watchful eye on the entire coast of North America? The United States does, about 90 miles from where I'm sitting in Cheyenne Mountain. You may have heard of it. It's called NORAD and Canada needs it just as much, if not more, than the US does.

I'm not arguing that the USA is superior to Canada; mostly because such an argument is pointless due to the immeasurable nature of the subject. The two nations are different and they lean on each other in a great many ways.


So you know where the Stargate is? lol


Posted By: Ph34r
Date Posted: 23 July 2004 at 2:11pm
Canadians are taxed much more than we are here in the U.S., so that's how they can get "free" asprin in the hospital. Like Sandman nothing is ever free.

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Posted By: spike
Date Posted: 23 July 2004 at 2:13pm
Originally posted by SandMan SandMan wrote:

Originally posted by **edited**e **edited**e wrote:


How do you define ammerica: Money thats all. You are not free and we are right on top of you. Where you go we go. And that sucks.



How is the geographical relationship relevant at all?

Oil is a major driving factor behind the world economy. But the US economy is much broader than that. You embarrass yourself and your country by claiming otherwise.

Stop riding party lines and actually think about what you're saying.
 

The only reason why america is is the world.

 

 



Posted By: Daniel Webber
Date Posted: 23 July 2004 at 2:13pm

To state my final opinion, I think the United States and Canada are equal. In my mind, they're like brothers. Both have good sides and bad, but they have the same general standards and origins which makes them so alike. Canada is like the understanding, little brother which thinks more than it acts ands decisions are more reasonable. The United States is the older, stronger, and larger brother who is protective and which others looks up to.

Now, can we stop all the fighting and complaining about which country is better? (that includes hijacking the word "ignorant" too )



Posted By: spike
Date Posted: 23 July 2004 at 2:15pm

Originally posted by Ph34r Ph34r wrote:

Canadians are taxed much more than we are here in the U.S., so that's how they can get "free" asprin in the hospital. Like Sandman nothing is ever free.

We pay our taxes yes and thats why we have Health care. So when we do go to the hospital we dont have to worry about that .25 charge.



Posted By: paintballman_13
Date Posted: 23 July 2004 at 2:15pm
Originally posted by Ph34r Ph34r wrote:

Canadians are taxed much more than we are here in the U.S., so that's how they can get "free" asprin in the hospital. Like Sandman nothing is ever free.


Well, I get things from my parents for doing nothing. I didnt pay for it therefor its free.(ex computer, r/c heli, r/c plane, tv, etc)


Posted By: spike
Date Posted: 23 July 2004 at 2:16pm
Originally posted by Daniel Webber Daniel Webber wrote:

To state my final opinion, I think the United States and Canada are equal. In my mind, they're like brothers. Both have good sides and bad, but they have the same general standards and origins which makes them so alike. Canada is like the understanding, little brother which thinks more than it acts ands decisions are more reasonable. The United States is the older, stronger, and larger brother who is protective and which others looks up to.

Now, can we stop all the fighting and complaining about which country is better? (that includes hijacking the word "ignorant" too )

 Brothers Fight



Posted By: Daniel Webber
Date Posted: 23 July 2004 at 2:18pm
Originally posted by **edited**e **edited**e wrote:

Originally posted by Daniel Webber Daniel Webber wrote:

To state my final opinion, I think the United States and Canada are equal. In my mind, they're like brothers. Both have good sides and bad, but they have the same general standards and origins which makes them so alike. Canada is like the understanding, little brother which thinks more than it acts ands decisions are more reasonable. The United States is the older, stronger, and larger brother who is protective and which others looks up to.

Now, can we stop all the fighting and complaining about which country is better? (that includes hijacking the word "ignorant" too )

 Brothers Fight

*Cough* War of 1812 *Cough*



Posted By: spike
Date Posted: 23 July 2004 at 2:19pm
Right little brother won sorry


Posted By: WANNA BE
Date Posted: 23 July 2004 at 2:20pm
Originally posted by **edited**e **edited**e wrote:

The only real reason why America has a economy is Oil, that you get from Saudies and Canadians.

 

um.....no, you see there is this thing called "alaska" its right up there next to canada, and it produces 3 times more OIL than all of the lower 48 states combine. yes we still do get oil from saudies but since the pipe line was built we are now relying more on ourselves.



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Posted By: spike
Date Posted: 23 July 2004 at 2:22pm
The pipline go through us we want our money for that.


Posted By: paintballman_13
Date Posted: 23 July 2004 at 2:25pm
Ill represent Canada here and say **edited**e stop talking.

What in the heck. **edited**e?


Posted By: Daniel Webber
Date Posted: 23 July 2004 at 2:27pm
Sp.ike, please just shut up. You just keep digging yourself in a hole by saying things that you do not understand. You gave it your best shot but quit now before you strike out.


Posted By: spike
Date Posted: 23 July 2004 at 2:27pm

Originally posted by paintballman_13 paintballman_13 wrote:

Ill represent Canada here and say **edited**e stop talking.

What in the heck. **edited**e?

Willing to bend over for the yanks eh! Traitor!



Posted By: WANNA BE
Date Posted: 23 July 2004 at 2:29pm
Originally posted by **edited**e **edited**e wrote:

 

We pay our taxes yes and thats why we have Health care. So when we do go to the hospital we dont have to worry about that .25 charge.

so what your saying is you payed that 25 cents only you payed early (in taxes), so in this case whats its matter when you pay the charge as long as you eventualy pay it?



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Posted By: spike
Date Posted: 23 July 2004 at 2:33pm
The problem is I take this seriously but with humor. Neither country would las to long without the other. And that sucks. Money is destroying the human race.


Posted By: Frozen Balls
Date Posted: 23 July 2004 at 2:34pm
Originally posted by **edited**e **edited**e wrote:

Originally posted by paintballman_13 paintballman_13 wrote:

Ill represent Canada here and say **edited**e stop talking.

What in the heck. **edited**e?

Willing to bend over for the yanks eh! Traitor!



...I pity the other Canadians here, cause he is really making Canada look great...


Posted By: paintballman_13
Date Posted: 23 July 2004 at 2:36pm
Originally posted by **edited**e **edited**e wrote:

Money is destroying the human race.


I agree with you on that.


Posted By: spike
Date Posted: 23 July 2004 at 2:38pm

Originally posted by Daniel Webber Daniel Webber wrote:

Sp.ike, please just shut up. You just keep digging yourself in a hole by saying things that you do not understand. You gave it your best shot but quit now before you strike out.

One thing about me is I never really strike out.



Posted By: Frozen Balls
Date Posted: 23 July 2004 at 2:40pm
Originally posted by paintballman_13 paintballman_13 wrote:

Originally posted by **edited**e **edited**e wrote:

Money is destroying the human race.


I agree with you on that.


Religion isn't helping things either.


Posted By: SandMan
Date Posted: 23 July 2004 at 2:40pm
Originally posted by paintballman_13 paintballman_13 wrote:

Originally posted by Ph34r Ph34r wrote:

Canadians are taxed much more than we are here in the U.S., so that's how they can get "free" asprin in the hospital. Like Sandman nothing is ever free.


Well, I get things from my parents for doing nothing. I didnt pay for it therefor its free.(ex computer, r/c heli, r/c plane, tv, etc)


So, what you're saying is... From a completely childish, shallow perspective with no responsibility... You're ignorant of the prices you pay for things.

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Posted By: SandMan
Date Posted: 23 July 2004 at 2:42pm
Originally posted by Daniel Webber Daniel Webber wrote:

To state my final opinion, I think the United States and Canada are equal. In my mind, they're like brothers. Both have good sides and bad, but they have the same general standards and origins which makes them so alike. Canada is like the understanding, little brother which thinks more than it acts ands decisions are more reasonable. The United States is the older, stronger, and larger brother who is protective and which others looks up to.


Now, can we stop all the fighting and complaining about which country is better? (that includes hijacking the word "ignorant" too )



I already said that, by the way. If anyone was actually reading my posts instead of just flaring up and arguing.

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Posted By: spike
Date Posted: 23 July 2004 at 2:43pm

Originally posted by SandMan SandMan wrote:

Originally posted by paintballman_13 paintballman_13 wrote:

Originally posted by Ph34r Ph34r wrote:

Canadians are taxed much more than we are here in the U.S., so that's how they can get "free" asprin in the hospital. Like Sandman nothing is ever free.


Well, I get things from my parents for doing nothing. I didnt pay for it therefor its free.(ex computer, r/c heli, r/c plane, tv, etc)


So, what you're saying is... From a completely childish, shallow perspective with no responsibility... You're ignorant of the prices you pay for things.

Dont go that way man I been to the US have you been to Canada?



Posted By: spike
Date Posted: 23 July 2004 at 2:45pm
 I read your posts Sandman.


Posted By: Hairball!!!
Date Posted: 23 July 2004 at 2:45pm
Originally posted by SandMan SandMan wrote:

You really don't want to bring up the topic of money in a USA versus Canada discussion. I'd be willing to bet that Manhattan alone generates more revenue than any single Canadian province in the space of a year. I'm confident it generates more revenue than any other single city in the world.


Including Tokyo? They basically ARE the cutting edge of technology, not to mention have some of the biggest international companies in the world.


Posted By: spike
Date Posted: 23 July 2004 at 2:49pm

Originally posted by Hairball!!! Hairball!!! wrote:

Originally posted by SandMan SandMan wrote:

You really don't want to bring up the topic of money in a USA versus Canada discussion. I'd be willing to bet that Manhattan alone generates more revenue than any single Canadian province in the space of a year. I'm confident it generates more revenue than any other single city in the world.


Including Tokyo? They basically ARE the cutting edge of technology, not to mention have some of the biggest international companies in the world.

Oh great those Japanese folks lets nuke the basterds.




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