^ Yea...

Well my Brothers, Friends, Cousins, Dads, Co-Workers, Sons, G/F's cousins, Unlce, Son. Said they are making one.

so any thoughts to how it will look or what kinda feed system it will have if they do have a new one come out

true rumor is a rumor but everyone that owns a tippmann has been wanting to see a new one. me peronaly i would love to see a vertical feed high end marker to take down some to of the more expensive guns they got.

maybe when they say high end they playing with words and really just mean a pump with a raised sight rail, get it? HIGH END?! i crack myself up.

its tuff to imagine tippmann making a highend gun and still keeping the same rifle look as the previous guns.

her it is

An investment firm has recently purchased the majority of Tippmann, but there’s little info on the details. Got any inside info or rumors to add to the fray?


All I can say is that only good things will come from the investment. Summit (the investment company) is putting a lot of money into Tippmann to make it an even bigger company. Expect big things in the next year, including the development of a new, high-end marker.....but you didn’t hear that from me

if u want the whole interview pm me

I wouldn't be surprised if Tippmann did come out with a new marker. I mean come on, how many more years are they going to milk the 98 Custom & A-5. They've done extremely well for the company getting noticed in the p-ball industry but you always have to stay competitive and up to date. An Investment firm wouldn't consider merging with a company unless they had plans to expand and push the innovation to the limit. Have you noticed Tippmann outfitting Autocockers with flatlines, maybe they're throwing Ideas back & forth?

Makes you think hmmmmmmmmm?

tippmann is making enough money off of every speedball player buying a a5 then tricking the crap out of it with upgrades and then selling it because it still isnt good enough for speedball. tippmanns are woodsball guns. they might go with a high end gun but i hope they dont because speedball = dump $100+ each day on paint and hide behind a giant balloon. woodsball is how real men play, out in the trees and mud running, diving, jumpind and 1 shot kills. if you want a gun to play hide behind a giant bubble then buy a autococker or something.

I think tippmann will come up with something that we hadn't even thought of doing. The guys at tippmann are smart and they seem to be waiting for sales to die down before releasing a new gun (rather than selling a new model every week like kingman and other companies). On top of that, they give each one upgrades that set it above other guns because there is nothing else like it. The 98/98c has the RT which allows high rates of fire without batteries or electronics and the flatline which adds a ton of range with flat trajectory. Then you have the A5 which comes stock with the cyclone which requires no batteries and is very reliable. They also redesign all the 98 upgrades for the A5 so that they're even better than before. I think they'll follow this trend and release a gun similar to the A5 but with a few changes (based on user feedback) and probably something that hasn't been done before, the equivalent of the cyclone for the A5. Maybe an improved feeding system or mechanical full auto, who knows. Then they'll probably take the A5 upgrades and improve them more for the new gun.

Other companies are more predictable. You know Bob Long, Smart Parts, etc. will always just change the milling and make their guns shoot faster at lower pressures. Tippmann is different though, you never know what they'll come up with because they don't come out with stuff often but when they make something, it's usually something big (flatline, RT, cyclone). My guess is that they've been working on new stuff since the A5 was released and they probably have a general idea of what they want their next gun to be and they've probably tested some new ideas too. I'm sure they'll come up with something great for their next gun and series of upgrades.

I wouldn't sell my guns and turn my back on tippmann if they made something for the speedball market but I would be a little disappointed in them if it was just a clone of other electros. I just wouldn't buy it, that's all. If they just made a great gun that is excellent for speedball but is a good all around gun and isn't very expensive then I may buy it. I think they should make a gun like the A5 but make it capable of whatever the latest speedball guns can do rather than making a gun specifically for speedball. That's pretty much what they've been doing anyway but apparantly they don't meet the expectations of speedball players. I think an A5 with a few performance upgrades would be great for speedball but tourny players love to spend thousands on super-electros that just spray paint everywhere and the A5 just isn't a paint hose. They don't like that they have to rely on skill more because of the lower (and more sane) ROF of the A5.

I will summarize speedball once again

shoot $100+ of paint

spend $800+ on a gun

run from "balloon" to "balloon" and try not to get hit by the 25 shots that one player just wasted on you and only hit you once.

that is what speedball is. any paintball game where a ref is needed to keep things in hand is not paintball but is turing into hockey or something. in woodsball there are no refs  because woodsball is pure fun.

Moid98command hit the nail on the head.

If Tippmann made a high end gun for teh tourney tards, it would make me very angry, but I really do like this company. It would take quite a bit to make me sell my Tippmann and buy another brand of gun. As long as they don't follow in the path of Brass Eagle, or Kingman, I'll be ok with them for the most part.

 Look back on Tippmann's 18 year history. You can easily describe it with one word: Innovation. They have been, more or less, the industry leader ever since the SMG60. Tippmann's place is in the woods with the real men, not with those speedballers. (Many people who posted above me dumbed speedball down into one sentance, good job, boys)

As said above, woods ball is for men. Sure, you can get dirty and what-not playing speedball, but the whole purpose of woods ball is to hide in mud, swamps, high grass, bushes, etc; then blast your enemy with a few well placed shots when he walks by. (Ever wonder why most woodsball rec players carry no more than a hopper full of paint and 2 or 3 pods onto the field?) Speedballers, on the other hand, dress in nice clean jerseys, shiney guns, and cleats. (I'm not opposed to cleats, it's just that a pair of boots would do the same job, and then some for about the same price) The day you need **edited**ey shoes to run around and hide behind paint covered ballons is a sad one, indeed. This shows you where our country is going...

I really don't have anything against the concept of speedball. I just don't like the direction it has turned, or the participants. If speedballers played on a field bigger than my room (it sure seems that way, don't it?), and didn't dump a bajillion pods of paint at 30 zillion bps at a giant ballon, I might respect them as little more. Maybe if they did it with a pump, or stock class, I'd respect them a little more. (I know, I know, you enjoy wasting $200 worth of paint per game... guess what? YOU'RE A MORON)

I've played speedball a few times before, and it is a lot of fun. But what pisses me off beyond belief is when you get shot 25 zillion times in a second, when 1 or 2 shots would have done. Hell, 4 or 5 would have been fine with me, but 25 bps is a little excessive, if you ask me. Now, of the 4 or 5 times I've played speedball, I aimed a little, and took shots carefully, in a way. I still layed down the paint on occasions, but I kept my finger off the triger for most of the time (not to say the same for the speedball tourney morons there that day). But I was one of the first shot out most every game. Know why? I wasn't laying down the paint at a zillion bps. (I know, I know, I'm somewhat new to the sport, but those tourney morons blazing at 25 zilllion bps were taking very light fire) Basically the tourney morons look at your gun and make judgements on you before you even reach the field. If you shoot a Tippmann, almost all of them lay it on thick at you for most of the game. If you shoot a fancy race gun, they leave you alone, for the most part.

Woodsballers generally don't have sponsors (a few do, but majority dont) Most of those woods guys pay for their gear on their own. Work for the upgrades, work for the paint, work for the tanks and air fills, work for the field fees. A good number of speedball teams have sponsors. Which means they basically get to play a lot more, they get high end guns, they get to lay the paint on thick for almost no reason at all and use $200 worth of high end paint for a single game... you get where I'm going with that one... You ever watch the woods ballers play? (I do a lot when I'm heading for the dead zone or staging area... Getting shot out is teh sux..) Ever notice how they stay off the trigger unless if they are either: a. laying cover fire b. have a clear shot or c. last ditch effort when they are out gunned, or the last few seconds before the game ends?

Ahh... screw it.

Bottom line:

I hate speedball.

There is an axiom in economics that goes (paraphrased) If you are not expanding your market, your are decreasing your future revenue.

Tippmann's reputation will help them sell whatever they bring to market. I would like to see Tippy make a more efficient (air usage) A-5 design.

I have 3 a-5s (sold my karnivore!) and think they are the best rec-ball gun out there...just a little hoggish on air.

ive been tryin to say the same things about speedball for along time, thanks you guys for gettin it out there, i hate how all the kids just starting paintball are goin strit for speed ball,wuts the fun in spray and pray? i hear ppl talk about all the big pros and teams but i hate hearin about that, id like to see team dynasty playin with all stock guns, that would be a real match, i realy respect those stock guys, there awesome and have excellent aim, playin stock is kinda like airsoft,(i dont play it much though) u have one or two shots at a time, you have to make those few shots count so in lamest terms...

Go WooDS BaLL!!

Boo SPeeD BaLL!!!

Enos Shenk wrote: Making a high end gun is the worst possible thing tippmann could doi think. Theyre sitting on a niche market selling good guns to new players and rec players. Arrogant tourney players would never touch anything with the tippmann name, so they wont buy it. Maybe im just mad because i hate almost all "high end" guns, and if tippmann made something like that it would just convince more newbies that spraying paint and having no skill is what its all about.

I totally disagree. Just because its a high-end gun doesn't mean it wouldn't be good for the average rec-baller. Because it's a high-end doesn't mean its just designed to sling paint. It could have the durability and dependibility of a Tippmann while being ultra compact and 1/4 of the weight. It could be accurate right out of the box while being twice as efficient. If Tippmann never improved on their designs we would all still be using a Pro-lite. And it doesn't have to be a "speedball" gun just because its a high-end marker. What about the Tac-one or Carters. 

Ok first off, I'm gonna defend the game of speedball.  Speedball is a completely different gameplay than woodsball.  They are setup to be a very fastpace game.  It's on a small course and it makes you feel almost trapped and pinned down 24/7.  It's not about stealth at all, it takes agility, strategy, and, most of the time, a fast gun.

Stating this as much opinionated as possible, yes, I myself play both woodsball and speedball, but I think speedball gets your adrenaline pumping at a level that woodsball could never do.  Woodsball tactics are about opposite from speedball.  In woodsball you try to be as covert as possible and steathy, trying not to be spotted.  In speedball, your in a small course and you know where everyone is.

You guys are saying that woodsball is for men, let's see you hide behind those "bubble bunkers" getting shot at by guns shooting 25bps, you'd soil yourselves.  Hidding in some brush with a ghuille suit and a camo'd 98c, waiting for someone to walk by so you could "snipe" them out doesn't take all that much skill.  Stop saying that woodsball is for men, because just because you don't get all that dirty playing speedball, that doesn't mean they aren't afraid do get covered in mud.

I'm not saying that woodsball doesn't take any skill, it's just that the skill needed for woods/speedball are way different.  This is for you guys that say there's no need for guns that shoot 20+bps.  Most of you guys that play woodsball and occasionally play on speedball fields notice that if you try to shoot only when you have a clear shot, you usually get pwned out by the speedball players by their ropes of paint flying at you.  Guess why?  Because it works to shoot faster when your in a tight spot with people all around you.

As I have pointed out, speedball and woodsball are two completely different types of gameplay for the sport of paintball.  It takes different skills for the game you play.  All I ask is that you discontinue the stereotype that woodsball players are "more manly" than speedball players because you get dirtier.

Now for the topic of a new Tippmann "highend marker."  I hope that eventually they do sink their teeth into the game of speedball.  Also opinionated, I believe speedball is for the more serious paintball players, and Tippmann knows that's where the money's at.

Yes, Tippmann makes undisputedly the best woodsball markers on the market, but you can't just stay with the 98c or A5 forever.  The future means change, and change is what is needed in order to keep up with today's society.

Tippmann, I think most everyone would agree, is mostly a "beginner's gun", not trying to knock it's reputation but it is true.  Very good quality beginner's guns none the less, but if they make a new gun for speedball, and it's a success, which most likely it will be, considering Tippmann makes some of the most innovative products on the market (cyclone, r/t, etc.), The community of paintball will look at Tippmann in a whole new perspective.

Overall, I think the idea for a high end gun in the future will only aid Tippmann in the conquest to TAKE OVER THE WORLD!  Haha, just kidding, but it looks like a bright future for Tippmann, but of course, only time will tell.

Good luck to Tippmann if this rumor is in progress, and keep up the good work.

As for you that actually took the time to read this post, I hope I didn't waste your time or seem to bash woodsball, by no means do I try to, but anyway, thanks for reading! 

how did you know that? that is way to much money. it should be like 300 bucks, that way i could buy one and sell it on ebay to some retarded little speedball kid that has no real skills and is going to go broke on paint trying to be like the "pros" that shoot 1000 balls per game. god i hate speedballers.

WOODSBALL!

AMEN TO THAT MAROON OUT!!

grafxguy1 wrote: The Ho wrote: tippmann is making enough money off of every speedball player buying a a5 then tricking the crap out of it with upgrades and then selling it because it still isnt good enough for speedball. tippmanns are woodsball guns. they might go with a high end gun but i hope they dont because speedball = dump $100+ each day on paint and hide behind a giant balloon. woodsball is how real men play, out in the trees and mud running, diving, jumpind and 1 shot kills. if you want a gun to play hide behind a giant bubble then buy a autococker or something. I'm going to agree with that. To me I am not impressed by a $1400 marker. It irks me when I see these young kids at the field who are playing with them and they think they are untouchable. To me the marker does not make you a better player. It is the player. My paint will break on you the same way whether it gets there by a Cocker or a C98. I would hate to see a high end Tippmann. It would ruin the franchise. Why change something that is not broken? eric

first thing why would it ruin the franchise if tippmann made a electro marker, seeing that theer name pretty much stands for quality and durable I dont think that there gonna make a brake able speedball gun, and maybe some people play speedball that like fast guns and some people like woodsball your talking like "ooh i dont like tippmann because of one product they make" and you have to admit there are advatages over a tippmann from a cocker, cockers are the most accurate gun on the planet. alot of stock tippy 98's are very unacurate and I want to make it clear that i have NOTHING against tippmann, (why would i be on the forums if i did) but why are you getting mad over this ?

Uh let's see.

Have some multi-million dollar company buy your company out to help you figure out a way to make more money.

"Ok Tippmann company we've done some massive number crunching over a period of months and spent millions on research. Just keep building 98's and give us half the profit. Thank you and please come again"

         You guys are crazy, the a5 is a high end marker, as much as i hate the term "high-end".  Someone(not me yet) could take a pgp and make it high end, by using it to its fullest.  I will again say, its not the equipment, its the user.  A high-end gun is a gun that can compete with other markers in a "high-end" tourney.  That could be any marker.  I would personally use my egripped a5 in any tourney before i used an angel, timmy, w/e.  

Just my 2/100

Just my 2/100

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It's true that this is PART of the equation.

There's ball condition, recoil, shot to shot consistancy, wind, the individual behind the trigger. There must be more.

The Ho wrote: woodsball is how real men play, out in the trees and mud running

That has more than a little inuendo in it and doesn't seem very...manly to me to go out in the stix and begin "running" in the mud.

Why do you guys rip on speedball. I like speedball much more than woodsball, I have friends that like woodsball more, I guess its preference. And about the whole being a man business. You act like your three years old you probably play with G.I. Joe's and everything. Because G.I. Joe is manly too. You probably cut trees down with axes and use a lot of power tools because there manly too. And lift weights and everything. I don't know who you play with but most of the woodsball players Ive played with are idiots. I've played with people who have thought it would be cool to have to wrestle the gun from other players and everything. Heck they even bring bowie knifes with them when we play. WTF. I hate woodsball players.

Whats wrong with tippmann making a high end electro marker. You sound like my grandma because shes afraid of technology. You basically say you wouldn't buy a tippmann if it was high end. thats like saying you wouldnt buy it if it was good.

wow i wish i saw this thread sooner. i think tippmann does need to make a new gun. they don't  have many. more guns mean more money, you have to think business like, all they want to do is make money. but there is two sides to this,  tippmann is a beginner gun, and if they did make a 800 dollar gun i don't think it would be for the best. beginners look up to tippmann, for good relieable guns, now thers going to be a 800 dollar gun and i don't think thats how beginners to the sport should learn the game, shooting 25 bps that is.

just my 2 cents.

Like i said before

WOODSBALL!!!

It's about time somebody put an end to this.

Tippmann is going to make another gun in the future. Live with it.

hey dont be mean to speedball its just one more paint of paintball if you dont like it come to play in the woods with me.

now that beign said in the woods a low end and a high and can still kick ass, but in speedball you go on with a 400$ gun your going to get beat half the time maybe thats why ppl hate it. i dont like it but i dont just hate what is APART of paintball we most all band togeather and make the sport stronger, woods and speedball needs to get along and know that they are all paintballers if you got a M98 with no upgrads or a angel with everthing you can get on it your still a paintball player and in the woods we are all the same we can all get hit we can all sneak. just my thots  

Here we go again.

What I would like is to have a bottom feed (YEAH bottom feed) gun with a Cyclone like hopper thing with the speed of a Q-loader or a Halo B w/ Rip Drive A tank that goes into the foregrip but capable of holding the biggest tank possible (Like the biggest HPA specifically made for pb) A trigger so light that it needs a upgrade to make it higher Capable of putting out 30bps no prob and has a X chamber that works for HPA and CO2 And it needs to be TWICE as fast as an Angel. But no electricity WHATSOEVER!!! (hopperwise up-wise everything-wise) But it needs to be as durable as a tippmann.

I am currently working on this but it may take a LOT longer.

Tippmann will release a new gun called...probably the A-10...nicknamed the warthog and be based more or less (for looks/milsim) on the M-4/M68 where the A-5 is based on a MP5 variant.

I would expect to see a higher ROF, cylcone improved and the parts to be essentially interchangeable with the A-5.  This new paintball marker will probably be aimed squarely (pun intended) at rec-ball/scenario players and be in the current price range of an upgraded A-5.

A-5=mp5

A-10=M4/M68

a good guess?

where did you get that idea?

Your "manlyness" is not determined by which form of paintball you play, it is determined by how good you are at that form (speedball, woodsball).

I like speedball because I personally get 5 speedball games done by the time 1 woodsball game finishes. 

I think to make speedball better, only allow a player to carry 400 or 500 rounds into battle.

I think to make woodsball better, put a speedball time limit on it.  I know at the field I play at there is no time limit in woodsball, that pisses me off, each game take a half hour, when I could play a speedball game in 10 minutes.

Regarding the "High End Marker"

- How would expanding into a new field (speedball) hurt Tippmann.  It's more money for Tippmann and eventually more and better upgrades and guns for us.

- A "high end"  marker would be great!  But 2 models, like the ProStock and Superstock.  The Superstock is the prostock with a worr blade.  Make a gun for the non-electro people, and the same thing, but with electro stuff for the electro people.

GO SPEEDBALL!

i think tippy should come out with a "speedball" gun, because if it is electro, then no one can say anything about anybody comin onto the supairball fields with a tippy.  I am unbiased, as i LOVE woodsball, and i hate speedball, but i still think its a good idea.  I think most people who are fighting this have a-5s and dont want to have an outdated gun.  I honestly dunt care, my prolite served me well.  So i dont think people need to worry.  Iffu like the new gun, buy it.  Iffu dont, dont. 

i wont even start on why i think woodsball is better.

Can't we all just get along?

this is goin to be a high end gun xf vooodoo. there not goin to make another big bulky gun for speedball. and thee not goin to sell a woodsball gun for alot of money because hardly any one would buy it. this gun is goin to be made for speedball, and your m14 thinkg wouldn't do good. i think its goin to kinda look like a bushy. its goin to have a lil of everyhting put toghter in this design. its goin to have everthing that works. i doubt but maybe a type of cyclone, my guess it will be electro, that will be kinda like the eblade but look different and stuff but be kinda the same. maybe even like the new cocker pbx is comin out wit.