snipers Vs age
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Topic: snipers Vs age
Posted By: ncbbh88
Subject: snipers Vs age
Date Posted: 26 July 2004 at 6:56pm
i would like to know if there is any corralation between snipers and the amount of time playing PLEASE VOTE HONESTLY i dont care if you dont snipe or use sniper tactics i would just like to know if there is any corralation between experience and using a sniper or sniper tactic.
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Posted By: sniped out
Date Posted: 26 July 2004 at 6:58pm
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Mostly only newbs go for sniping. But they eventually grow out of it. It's like a fad.For nOObs.
EDIT:P.s.-Umm...Ignore my name.No!! I said ignore it! You looked .Grrr...
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Posted By: ncbbh88
Date Posted: 26 July 2004 at 7:22pm
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its real interesting to see how this is going
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Posted By: You Wont See Me
Date Posted: 26 July 2004 at 7:32pm
Ya because this thread is just sooooo long...
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Posted By: ncbbh88
Date Posted: 26 July 2004 at 7:34pm
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You Wont See Me wrote:
Ya because this thread is just sooooo long... |
im refering to the votes posted so far not the responses
so far its supporting what i thought would happen
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Posted By: soulhunter
Date Posted: 26 July 2004 at 8:25pm
sniped out;
"Mostly only newbs go for sniping. But they eventually grow out of it. It's like a fad.For nOObs."
(So true)noobs
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Posted By: Insomnia_CJ
Date Posted: 26 July 2004 at 8:28pm
Wow, you people and your questions 
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Posted By: Large Unit
Date Posted: 26 July 2004 at 8:31pm
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I doubt anyone who has actually played more than a year (and played at least once a month) still considers themself a sniper. We all do when were noobs than we realize it doesn't work in paintball.
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Posted By: jigglydude
Date Posted: 26 July 2004 at 8:48pm
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wow who could have seen these results coming......
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Posted By: MetallicaESPa5
Date Posted: 26 July 2004 at 9:01pm
haha. whats the point of this thread again?
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Posted By: evil_fingers
Date Posted: 26 July 2004 at 9:03pm
Good question.....
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Posted By: ford man
Date Posted: 26 July 2004 at 9:25pm
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I'm a new player I started in the spring but what does that have to do with it. It realy depends on the coure,gun,and aponents. If I play a big course I tend to snipe but in a smaller one fast movement seams to work better. I consiter may self to be a sniper becues of may hunting backround a have alot of experance in the outdoors.
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Posted By: tippy_lover
Date Posted: 26 July 2004 at 10:12pm
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sniping=p*ssy
its much more fun to get up in their grill and make them eat paint
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Posted By: fhcpaintball
Date Posted: 27 July 2004 at 12:12am
ya i dont like sniping becouse after a while all your buddies disapere becouse you thought you could snipe by hiding in a dich its happened to me many a time by some of newer friends (and they think siping is so cool)
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Posted By: 98God
Date Posted: 27 July 2004 at 12:15am
Posted By: newone
Date Posted: 27 July 2004 at 8:42am
I'm a good shoot but in on way I think I am a (S).
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Posted By: ncbbh88
Date Posted: 27 July 2004 at 10:01am
ive played 4 years at least 3 times a month and i consider my self a sniper ive always had a flatline and have been real good at picking ppl off or nailing those odd shots and please keep the arguments down i opent this thread to see the poll results and so far its going like i thought
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Posted By: MetallicaESPa5
Date Posted: 27 July 2004 at 10:04am
well if you have ever read a thread about snipers, its usually a big argument.
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Posted By: Large Unit
Date Posted: 27 July 2004 at 10:05am
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Results are just as expected, all the noobs think they are snipers and most think sniping is stupid, I doubt most of the people who said they had been player longer actually have.
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Posted By: S\/\/4T-L()G4N
Date Posted: 27 July 2004 at 10:07am
Yup, it does become a big arguement. Our "sniper" friends here are too thick headed to see that you can't do it in paintball.
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Posted By: MetallicaESPa5
Date Posted: 27 July 2004 at 10:08am
yeah but the "new player" thing has 12 votes. so basically this thread is covered with newbs, and plus, this is a "new player forum" lol
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Posted By: ncbbh88
Date Posted: 27 July 2004 at 10:36am
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one question for those of you who are new players that belive in sniping.... after reading some of the posts by senior players do you think it will change the way you look at sniping or will you still try it as a more serious thing using extreem camo ,stealth, acurate shots or will you just quit now knowing it wont turn out as you think?
extreem camo ex: ghillie, conceald post drape cloth in other words the types of camo and stealth a sniper would use
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Posted By: Large Unit
Date Posted: 27 July 2004 at 10:43am
ncbbh88 wrote:
one question for those of you who are new players that belive in sniping.... after reading some of the posts by senior players do you think it will change the way you look at sniping or will you still try it as a more serious thing using extreem camo ,stealth, acurate shots or will you just quit now knowing it wont turn out as you think? |
None of that differ from basic woods play.
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Posted By: ncbbh88
Date Posted: 27 July 2004 at 10:55am
look back at my post large unit i should have specified
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Posted By: sniped out
Date Posted: 28 July 2004 at 5:16pm
ford man wrote:
I'm a new player ... I consiter may self to be a sniper... |
nOOb
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Posted By: Blue Hopper
Date Posted: 28 July 2004 at 5:38pm
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You can't say that sniping is something you believe, because its a tactic. Something that you do to try and win. I think that its the most useless thing that there is. I tried it and got killed. You can't really do it because their aren't paintball snipers. Giving a military sniper a pistol and a scope on that and how do they snipe they can't. But them being uselless doesn't mean that they don't exist. Because people still try to do it so I consider them snipers. I just think of it as useless.
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Posted By: sniped out
Date Posted: 28 July 2004 at 5:41pm
well said
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Posted By: ncbbh88
Date Posted: 28 July 2004 at 5:52pm
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to the non belivers look at this and read the summary i think you may come away with a little different perspective
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Posted By: Betterdays
Date Posted: 28 July 2004 at 7:24pm
ncbbh88 wrote:
to the non belivers look at this and read the summary i think you may come away with a little different perspective
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Different perspective...on what? It can hit a target at 100 ft and
shoots 12 BPS? It's a nice milsim gun but its "vital stats" are pretty
ordinary.
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Posted By: ncbbh88
Date Posted: 28 July 2004 at 7:37pm
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just the fact that everyone says there is no sniper and that you cannot make one im just trying to get peoples minds open to styles they are not real open too
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Posted By: fhcpaintball
Date Posted: 28 July 2004 at 8:31pm
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i dont care about sniping but when one of my team mates trys to snipe snd dosent get a kill and just sat at a yousles bunker thinking that somone will pass him and hell get theem i think without putting himself in harmes way sniping is like hiding then waiting for somone to hit where is the fun in that and it is not that tactical unless you call hide and go seek a tactic
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Posted By: Blue Hopper
Date Posted: 28 July 2004 at 11:44pm
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The problem with pb snipers is that you have too keep it safe and to do that the velocity of the ball when it comes out of the barrel it can't be traveling at more than 300 fps. For them to make a pb gun that could effectivly snipe wouldn't it have to be shooting hot at close range so that it could still have good velocity at longer ranges. Though you can get pb rounds for real guns that I hear has good accuracy that woud make that possible to snipe, but i think that stuff is only distrubutd to the military. And unlike pball I hear that most people wear full body armor. But as for regular p-ball I don't think that it'll happen
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Posted By: evil_fingers
Date Posted: 28 July 2004 at 11:48pm
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! you bonehead, why did you bump this thread!!!!
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Posted By: TRAVELER
Date Posted: 29 July 2004 at 1:19am
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Most of you don't know what a military sniper is or does, and you don't know what the training entails.
Snipers aren't just sitting up on a hill or in a tower several hundred yards away waiting to reach out and touch someone. A trained sniper can get close enough to a target to touch it with his hand, and a Ruger Mk II with a silencer at arms length will do the job more certainly and more quietly than an M82 at 500 yards.
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Posted By: evil_fingers
Date Posted: 29 July 2004 at 2:01am
Ok, yer a sniper....what do want, The Medal of Honor or a bullseye on yer back...
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Posted By: SR_Crewchief
Date Posted: 29 July 2004 at 6:49am
ncbbh88 wrote:
just the fact that everyone says there is no sniper and that you cannot make one im just trying to get peoples minds open to styles they are not real open too
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So your going to believe someones "marketing" pitch that a set of tactics can be applied to paintball when tactical experts tell you differently? Both Oldsoldier and myself have, in different ways, pointed out that what most of you "percieve" as sniper tactics are nothing more that a common infantry close ambush being implemented by an individual. And that the true tactics of a sniper can not be practically and effectively implemented.
If you want to learn how to execute a close ambush, I have no problem with that. I do have a problem when you continously try to call it something else.
And before anyone cries out that this is jsut semantics, it's not. There are segnificant differences in tactical application and the two should never be confused.
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Posted By: SR_Crewchief
Date Posted: 29 July 2004 at 6:52am
TRAVELER wrote:
Most of you don't know what a military sniper is or does, and you don't know what the training entails.
Snipers aren't just sitting up on a hill or in a tower several hundred yards away waiting to reach out and touch someone. A trained sniper can get close enough to a target to touch it with his hand, and a Ruger Mk II with a silencer at arms length will do the job more certainly and more quietly than an M82 at 500 yards.
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You have a major mis-conception of what a sniper trains to do. And yes, I know and have worked with trained, qualified, active military snipers. Have You?
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Posted By: ncbbh88
Date Posted: 29 July 2004 at 7:13am
fhcpaintball wrote:
i dont care about sniping but when one of my team mates trys to snipe snd dosent get a kill and just sat at a yousles bunker thinking that somone will pass him and hell get theem i think without putting himself in harmes way sniping is like hiding then waiting for somone to hit where is the fun in that and it is not that tactical unless you call hide and go seek a tactic
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thats just plain camping a real sniper would not be sitting around in one area its his job to get in range of the target he is going for to make the shot just sitting at ur base bunker is not sniping no matter how you try to defend it but if you are moving towards you target and he dosent no where you are and u get that shot at him from your absolute farthest acurate distance and he dosent no what hit him thats a sniper
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Posted By: S\/\/4T-L()G4N
Date Posted: 29 July 2004 at 7:16am
SR_Crewchief wrote:
ncbbh88 wrote:
just the fact that everyone says there is no sniper and that you cannot make one im just trying to get peoples minds open to styles they are not real open too
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So your going to believe someones "marketing" pitch that a set of tactics can be applied to paintball when tactical experts tell you differently? Both Oldsoldier and myself have, in different ways, pointed out that what most of you "percieve" as sniper tactics are nothing more that a common infantry close ambush being implemented by an individual. And that the true tactics of a sniper can not be practically and effectively implemented.
If you want to learn how to execute a close ambush, I have no problem with that. I do have a problem when you continously try to call it something else.
And before anyone cries out that this is jsut semantics, it's not. There are segnificant differences in tactical application and the two should never be confused. |
Thanks crewchief. You said it better than I was going to.
Guess what? Tippmann has a "sniper" package. This guy is selling a $1800 sniper marker. Companies will literally do ANYTHING to sell stuff. And the ignorant don't know better, so you can sell something for really expensive, and they will think they are special. Look at the Tippmann sniper. It cost more then it would for you to build the package yourself...
By the way, according to your "definition," I am a sniper too. When I hunt deer with my bow and arrow, I am a sniper. I am very accurate with my bow. I use concealment. And my camo coveralls are pretty darn good. Do you consider me a sniper? My bow has a shorter effective range than your paintball gun. I can hit deer from 15 yards, maybe 20. But I am a sniper.
EDIT: By the way, I would laugh like no other if I saw one of our "snipers" running around with that gun. I wouldn't even be able to play I would be laughing so hard.
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Posted By: ncbbh88
Date Posted: 29 July 2004 at 9:09am
Posted By: S\/\/4T-L()G4N
Date Posted: 29 July 2004 at 9:33am
Sure, you can use that definition, but that doesn't define anything at all. Are you saying that ambusher and sniper are synonyms? Please explain, because there is far more to it.
Now it is time to bust out the dictionary. What is a baseball diamond?
baseball diamond
n : the area of a baseball field that is enclosed by 3 bases and home plate [syn: diamond, infield] [ant: outfield]
Is this all you need to know about a baseball diamond? By this definition, I could set one up in my living room. But I cannot. There are certain measurements and guidelines that must be followed to have a TRUE baseball diamond.
These things are found in a baseball rule book.
To have a TRUE sniper, we need more then just a simple definition, but certain guidelines to be followed. So we must find a "sniper rule book."
Many will make the arguement that a sniper shoots snipe. Well, that is old school, and we have averted from that way of thinking. Same with back in the day, they thought of guns as muskets. I don't know many people that think of a musket when someone says gun.
So what is a sniper? True snipers are in the military and on Police SWAT/ERT. So what are their definitions of snipers?
Both military and Police snipers use the environment around them to conceal themselves. There is even more to it than that though. Range is a major factor for multiple reasons.
At further distances, it is MUCH easier to conceal yourself. It is very hard to see someone at 300+ yards. At that range, you could lay along side of a garbage dumpster and nobody could see you.
Second, it is harder to engage someone at a further distance. A sniper will use this to his advantage. He has a high velocity rifle with a powerful scope. Not only does he have a good rifle as a tool, but training is on his side as well. He knows how to adjust for windage and elevation.
So what is the military definition of a sniper? From what I have seen, it is someone who engages a target from outside the effective range of small arms fire.
In paintball, you can't use range to your advantage because all guns shoot the same distance. At these close ranges, it is also very difficult to effectivly conceal yourself.
Another common arguement is that the flatline will enable people to snipe, because of the added range. Remember, the flatline does not have that much added EFFECTIVE range to it. Whether or not the ball has backspin has no effect on the distance that the ball will break at.
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Posted By: ncbbh88
Date Posted: 29 July 2004 at 10:06am
ok then using the definition of sniper i had before adding your max efective range and the fact that in paintball you cannot go too far from someone but can still be out of their range its possible to have a paintball sniper you just need to adjust the definition of sniper with a few limitations that are common in paintball
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Posted By: S\/\/4T-L()G4N
Date Posted: 29 July 2004 at 10:09am
Ok, so lets adjust the baseball diamond so that we have 2 bases instead of three because the sporting goods store ran out of home plates and they only had two bases. We will just run back and forth instead of going in the shape of a diamond.
EDIT: Now I understand what you are saying. Yes, you can go not that far and be outside the effective range. BUT YOU STILL CAN'T ENGAGE THEM, SO THERE ARE NO SNIPERS.
BTW, please define effective range for me.
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Posted By: ncbbh88
Date Posted: 29 July 2004 at 10:16am
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ok effectice range of the flatline for me i hit things really acuratley at 150 ft beyond that takes a bit of luck to hit exactly where im pointing with a normal gun id say reall acurate at 80-100 feet
i use a flatline and sit usually outside the effective range of straight barrels so that if they can see me and want to hit me theyd have to arc their gun where i can stil shoot straight and hit them
thats what i think of effective range as
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Posted By: SR_Crewchief
Date Posted: 29 July 2004 at 10:54am
For the dictionary definition gang, you knew that this was coming.
snip·er ( P ) Pronunciation Key (sn p r)n. A skilled military shooter detailed to spot and pick off enemy soldiers from a concealed place. One who shoots at other people from a concealed place.
Source: The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth EditionCopyright © 2000 by Houghton Mifflin Company.Published by Houghton Mifflin Company. All rights reserved.
Now you’ll note that this expanded definition is still quite general in it scope, after all anyone who squats behind bush to fire is a sniper which is not the case.
So, since the dictionary has not resolved this we must consult the experts for a better definition of what makes a sniper in our chosen environment. It happens that I’ve had the opportunity to do just that from time to time in my 22 years in the Army.
In summary here are the extreme basics of what is an effective sniper:
· A superior marksman
· Expert knowledge in the art camouflage for concealment
· The ability to approach the target without being detected
· Engage the target from beyond effective range of return fire
· The ability to engage the target without revealing your position
· The ability to egress the area after successfully engaging the target without being positively identified and engaged
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Posted By: S\/\/4T-L()G4N
Date Posted: 29 July 2004 at 5:38pm
ncbbh88 wrote:
ok effectice range of the flatline for me i hit things really acuratley at 150 ft beyond that takes a bit of luck to hit exactly where im pointing with a normal gun id say reall acurate at 80-100 feet
i use a flatline and sit usually outside the effective range of straight barrels so that if they can see me and want to hit me theyd have to arc their gun where i can stil shoot straight and hit them
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Try again.
Effective range is defined as the ability to hit a 12"x12" (maybe it was 4x4) target 50% of the time. So maybe the flatline gives you more range, but the effective range is no better. We all know that with range, the accuracy of the flatline depreciates exponentially. At long range, the flatline's accuracy is nil.
The effective range for the flatline is no greater than 120 feet. I will agree with you on a straight barrel, 80-100 feet. 20 feet...if I shoot enough, one of my balls will break on you.
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Posted By: Betterdays
Date Posted: 29 July 2004 at 6:30pm
SR_Crewchief wrote:
what most of you "percieve" as sniper tactics are nothing more than
a common infantry close ambush being implemented by an individual. And
that the true tactics of a sniper can not be practically and
effectively implemented.
If you want to learn how to execute a close ambush, I have no
problem with that. I do have a problem when you continously try to call
it something else.
And before anyone cries out that this is just semantics, it's not.
There are significant differences in tactical application and the two
should never be confused. |
Bravo Sr_Crewchief. Nicely said.
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Posted By: ncbbh88
Date Posted: 29 July 2004 at 6:34pm
ok let me say this i hit things at 150 feet its a one square foot and i have the distance measured so thats my effective range
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Posted By: Shadowminion
Date Posted: 29 July 2004 at 7:24pm
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Woot , LOL, knew this'unn d be coming up soon , I took an active part in the post about snipers and their supporters , and I support anybody that would fancy them selves as a sniper , but very few can pull it off !! (I agree with you there SR crew chief , not everybody has been thru sniper sKool ) (I will PM you with something , just my thoughts , not trying to change your mind , just give you a different perception )
I will admit it , in the first year I played ,l I thot I was a sniper , and I had a PGP !! (that was 20 years ago , guys ). The effective range wasnt that good , and the rate of Fire ,, SUCKED.. but I had a paintball gun , and I was in the game,, I hid , waited (used a few tactics ) , and had a FRIGGING BLAST PLAYING !! (Yeah , I got out a lot , but I had fun !!).
I got a marker thats 10 X better now , and I make some decent shots too , but by the definition, that dont make me a sniper . By the definition of the tactics , so courteously and fully supplied by Srcrewchief , nobody will ever be a sniper in paintball , no arguement there . There's times I go Balls (?) out and storm the opposing team , and times I sit back and pick my shots , last night , my wife and I schooled a WIPER , Now, there's a DIRTY word !! you can wipe 1 to 3 shots ?, how about 20 or so ?
I digress a bit , but to make a point ,,, this game , for MOST players is to have fun , play by the rules , and have fun (did I say that already ?) Srcrewchief , and others , I think would agree , what makes this game as fun as it is , is the sportsmanship , honor and integrity displayed by the majority of players . Now,, if you want to call yourself a sniper , take note of Srcrewchief's posts on the subject and improve your game accordingly , he seems to be the authority in debunking the fantasy of sniping , but he's got some Damned good pointers on tactics (He-He , sorry there Srcrew,,,,, just made you the sniper Guru ).
Sooner or later everybody will learn , and grow into a player that plays his own game in paintball , that fits his equipment , style of play , and environment . I would not DARE to say that any of the gold,or even plat members would have EVER considered themselves snipers when they started , I can only speak for myself , but if I did , I prolly wouldnt be too far off the mark .
There is a progression , in learning , that likely included some fantasy about sniping . It kinda like beating off , who's gonna admit it ?? As skills improve , (tactics , experience , equipment included ) you become something else,, Snipers dont exist in paintball , but we all gotta start somewhere....
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Posted By: Blue Hopper
Date Posted: 30 July 2004 at 1:50am
Anyone who wants to make a sniper post just remember what happened here. It'll just happen again
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Posted By: S\/\/4T-L()G4N
Date Posted: 30 July 2004 at 6:47am
ncbbh88 wrote:
ok let me say this i hit things at 150 feet its a one square foot and i have the distance measured so thats my effective range |
That totally isn't what I am saying though.
With my straight barrel I can HIT things at 150 feet. But it still isn't my effective range.
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Posted By: g-bilt shibby
Date Posted: 30 July 2004 at 7:51am
I wouldnt consider myself a sniper bacause I only hid and wait maybe 10% of the time
like yesterday before my gun got stolen. I noticed that the opoising
team if in a bad situation would retret to reorginize at the road on
the right side of the feild so I took the liberty to sit out in a 6'x6'
buch of trees next to the road I coverd my gun with some plants same
with my back and my mask so i wouldnt be seen I waited the whole match
(was about 15 min) till 2 people were left on there team of 5 (there
was only 2 people left on my team also but he was on the other side)
and so the other team tried to reorginize by the road like I expected
one person came first while the other person took a long route to try
to look for me at the very end of the feild. well the 1st person came
by and was about 30' away so I fired a burst of about 6 or 7 balls at
him, he is now out, waited or the next person to come by but at that
time my teammate had driven the last one on the other team to the road
about 100' away then he tried to hid in some bushes and crawled my way
then about 3 min later he popped up to look around then stood up and he
saw me aimed then I fired about 10 balls at him then took him out.
so in conclution its just a tactic that only works with patience which
I figure most people who call snipers pansies dont have, so if someone
wants to try and snipe let them
ohh yea and just because your sniping doesnt mean your far away
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Posted By: rednekk98
Date Posted: 30 July 2004 at 9:35am
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Alrighty folks, we've been here many, many times. We all agree that paintball guns have limited range, and even the flatline only adds a slight bit of effective range, mainly because you have to arc less and are more likely to hit with your first few shots if you don't need to adjust your trajectory. However, I have yet to see ANYTHING posted showing how this so called "sniping" is different than a standard close ambush, besides that it usually consists of only one person. You can almost never get off a shot without revealing your position, you ARE in range of immediate return fire and visual aquisition. And you can't get away without revealing your position. A sniper in the real world has a difference of several hundred yards between the effective range of his weapon and his enemies'. He can trade this space for time to escape undetected. The extra 20feet of effective range the flatline gives(which is debatable) does NOT give you this time, except possibly in very specialized terrains, to escape without being identified and fired on. Please tell me how your sniping is any different from an ambush? I'd be really interested to hear it.
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Posted By: S\/\/4T-L()G4N
Date Posted: 30 July 2004 at 10:08am
g-bilt shibby wrote:
ohh yea and just because your sniping doesnt mean your far away
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And this is exactly why anti-snipers (in paintball) will never change their mind. You all think we are thick headed, I say you don't have anything to back your points up.
We have given reasons why range does matter, now give me yours.
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Posted By: Insomnia_CJ
Date Posted: 30 July 2004 at 10:17am
WOW, this is entertaining 
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Posted By: plax_are_meth
Date Posted: 30 July 2004 at 10:35am
i once got stepped on cause i tripped and fell into a bush and no one saw me....yeah...broke my new 3-way in the process....
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Posted By: SR_Crewchief
Date Posted: 30 July 2004 at 11:05am
g-bilt shibby wrote:
I wouldnt consider myself a sniper bacause I only hid and wait maybe 10% of the time
like yesterday before my gun got stolen. I noticed that the opoising
team if in a bad situation would retret to reorginize at the road on
the right side of the feild so I took the liberty to sit out in a 6'x6'
buch of trees next to the road I coverd my gun with some plants same
with my back and my mask so i wouldnt be seen I waited the whole match
(was about 15 min) till 2 people were left on there team of 5 (there
was only 2 people left on my team also but he was on the other side)
and so the other team tried to reorginize by the road like I expected
one person came first while the other person took a long route to try
to look for me at the very end of the feild. well the 1st person came
by and was about 30' away so I fired a burst of about 6 or 7 balls at
him, he is now out, waited or the next person to come by but at that
time my teammate had driven the last one on the other team to the road
about 100' away then he tried to hid in some bushes and crawled my way
then about 3 min later he popped up to look around then stood up and he
saw me aimed then I fired about 10 balls at him then took him out.
so in conclution its just a tactic that only works with patience which
I figure most people who call snipers pansies dont have, so if someone
wants to try and snipe let them
ohh yea and just because your sniping doesnt mean your far away
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And you just discribed a hasty close ambush.
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Posted By: SR_Crewchief
Date Posted: 30 July 2004 at 11:18am
I think some of you have gotten a wrong impression that I need to rectify. I am not, and never have been, a trained/qualified military sniper. What I am is an aviation NCO. In that capacity, as well as elsewhere, I've had the opportunity over the years to talk and work with military snipers and their instructors.
As an NCO I'm also knowledgable in small unit tactics and was required to teach them to my subordinates. More importantly, I had to be aware of potential threats and the means to counter them.
So if I come in here and tell you that tactics your calling "sniper" are really a veriation of a close ambush, believe that I know what I'm talking about. I'm not trying to demean or put anyone down, just attempting to get you to understand what your really doing.
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