Not everyone makes fun of new players.

I welcome ALL new players and welcome to the forum.

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New players get made fun of if they do something ridiculous or stupid on the field like pull a mask off (very dangerous) or if they team kill or shoot a ref (very hilarious)

Anyways. Yes we were all new and most of us embrace newbies except stupidity.

A lot of it has to do with the arrogance of some of the members here who seem to think that just because they have sit if front of the PC and posted 5000 times, that they have the right to be so.

They’ll flame someone for not searching but yet it seems to be OK for 30 people to post a reply consisting of “ search newbie!” or just quote each other and add some ignorant smiley face to it just to increase their own post count.

Then there are the members who somehow believe that they have to sit there and answer all questions and post replies, stating that they are so tired of having to respond to them. They would like to think that they are the leaders of this forum, but they aren’t.  These are also the same individuals who complain about how the forum has gone downhill, but have done absolutely nothing to help it.

Actually, I like S\/\/4T-L()G4N’s response, it was probably the most helpful I’ve seen in a while and I salute him for it. 

Lightningbolt wrote: Not everyone makes fun of new players. I welcome ALL new players and welcome to the forum.

Yep!

Woo-hoo!  Somebody also is annoyed by the people who use quote-spam!

Notorious Bob,

      Yes, absolutely.  That and the useless posts that just say to “search”, and then provide nothing else.  Anyone who has read the threads in this forum know that they have to wade through miles of schlock, shoveled out by individuals who believe that it’s their duty to have to respond.  Newbies joining the forum see this and are hesitant to ask questions as a result of it. 

Now, I do agree that some degree of searching is in order but again, you can go through hundreds of posts on a subject and not read a darn thing that is anywhere near useful or even relevant to the title of the thread.  Most start out OK, but then degenerate into spam of one kind or another.

So, given this, is there any question as to why a lot of people just start new threads?

Bass,

       I have seen this as well.  The best thing you can do is to approach this person after the fact and say something to the effect of  “I saw what happened, can I offer you some additional strategies and tactics you might like to use”?

Many people don’t like to hear advice, it may even be embarrassing for them to take it, even if they would really like to do so.  So again, I’d put it in the form of the above question.  If they decline, then so be it.  You can sit back and rest well with the knowledge that you tried to assist.  Not everyone is going to be receptive to such a thing, especially from a stranger.  The fact that you tried to help, puts you above most.

For myself, I would welcome such a thing.  Despite having played for 10 straight years, I consider myself a newbie as I have recently started playing again this year after several years out of the game.

For helping, or at least trying to help – salute to you!

S\/\/4T-L()G4N,

                            Actually, it still is the same topic.  It still has to do with the original question and how newcomers to the forum perceive the ability to get any sort of answers to their questions.  One of the problems again, is that who would want to search when they know they would have to crawl through a seemingly endless barrage of pointless postings.

     I have done research in the threads and while I can understand the point of it, the reality is that it’s way too much of a pain to be considered an effective method for gathering information.  Sad, but true.

     Now, to answer CoolHand’s question, too many newcomers are incorrectly labeled as being lazy for posting their questions just because it was already posted before.  Too often they are flamed just because some ignorant fool thinks that just because they have more postings, that this gives them the right to be insulting and to make stupid decisions based on a complete lack of understanding of the big picture.

     These types of individuals already know who they are, I don’t need to start posting names here. They will also typically be the same ones who find it acceptable to spam with one-word, or no-word quotes or responses.

before i bought my gun i was researching paintball for 3 years (not jokin) and now i am the smartest out of all my friends even when i was newb. u newbs get knocked aroud mainly because most of you have very little common sense (no offense) and knowledge of the sport. thats exactly y i studied paintball 3 YEARS be4 i got ma gun.

Notorious Bob wrote: Woo-hoo!  Somebody also is annoyed by the people who use quote-spam!

cough yomount cough j/k

S\/\/4T-L()G4N wrote: Now that we are on that topic, I really feel the need to point some fingers. Look at most of the spam, or off topic posts. I can honestly say that it USUALLY starts with evil_fingers or crimp flamming smitty for something. I'm sick of it. I don't think I would be wrong to say that over half of the topics go unanswered because there are 2-4 pages of them going back and forth at eachother. If this was my forum both of them would be IP banned. But its not...

Well well, so you are pointin fingers huh and I dunno why people get so uptight (actin like a grumpy old man or a spoiled brat) and whats wrong wit a lil sense of humor?....and yes I do admit I flame and make fun not jus on the new people, even the old ones but, hey when they make of me, do I really get mad "not at all" cus Im still a noob as you all would say it and if you think real hard Logan that if you dont like whats being said then its yer God given right to ignore it, jus like anyone else.

whiteknight457 wrote: before i bought my gun i was researching paintball for 3 years (not jokin) and now i am the smartest out of all my friends even when i was newb. u newbs get knocked aroud mainly because most of you have very little common sense (no offense) and knowledge of the sport. thats exactly y i studied paintball 3 YEARS be4 i got ma gun.

Whiteknight457,

                            I don’t agree with you on this.  I agree that some research has to be done but if it was that easy, why did it take you 3 years to complete yours?  I would imagine that it was a result of having to filter through so much erroneous information and outright garbage.

     This is the problem that many newcomers face.  Perhaps common sense plays a part, but I think that many newcomers get slammed because they just don’t know stuff yet.  Supposed “veterans” and the like get annoyed and frustrated when asked the most menial of questions, forgetting that they themselves had to ask the very same questions at one point.

     Again, arrogance plays a big part in that, there’s certainly no shortage of that here.  Between that, and the completely useless spamming, usually typified here by the quoting of the same thing over and over again or some equally useless, inane acronym like “ROFL”, it’s a wonder that any real information actually gets through.

     Kudos to you for doing the research!  You can pay homage to the individuals who helped you by helping others here without assuming they are lacking in common sense.  There’s a big difference between no common sense and having no operational knowledge regarding a certain subject.  It all depends on someone’s frame of reference.     

     Although I respect your point of view, I also disagree with some of it.  I agree that during a game, it is a no-holds-barred situation.  However, leading up to that game can take a varied amount of time and experiences, depending on the individual.

     Thankfully, there are those with the patience and understanding that can help newer players find their way in the game, be it woodsball or speedball.  Based on what you have stated, you would not be suited to assist any newcomer with either version of the game.  That is not a bad thing, nor does it speak to your skill. You may be a great player, who knows. It just means that you lack the understanding and patience needed to mentor newcomers.

“Learn fast or quit” may work for some individuals, but not for all.  Every person learns at their own pace.

ROFL , do you know how long its been since I have seen a splatmaster ?!? WOOT and Grats to YA !! now on to the subject of the thread , join the forum , read the threads and (stickies ) for a bit , (you can actually learn from other's posts ) and then start posting your questions..Ya , somebody's gonna Flame yer Butt once in a while , maybe they having a bad day , maybe the question wasnt that great , whatever , but for the most part ,if you take your time and read threads that interest you , you will get familiar with who spams , who flames , who dont know their butt from a Hole in the ground , and who to go to when you get a specific question about something . post your question , get flamed or not, sift thru the crap , and get on with it..

I was fortunate in having a lot of encouragement when I started , and I would encourage anybody to be whatever they wanted to be ,in this game , YES , EVEN a SNIPER !! (forum's most unpopular category , besides homosexuals )

there's lots of people here who KNOW their stuff , and some "specialists " too (painting , modding , camo , tactics to name a few )

Welcome to the forums noob (He-he ) wear that title well , a lot of peeps will give you some good advice cuz you call Yerself noob , its no big deal , as you get more experienced , you will be able to recognize the BS'rs from the real forumers thats actually trying to make this a better place , and you may become one of them .

Hope to see you around  . my post count is low, but I have played since the mid 80's (off and on )

Ok, who agree that NrthEastah needs to get promoted.Seriously.

Oh, and I don't flame newbies.Unless they start doing totally idiotic things, like Spam.

spyderjunke wrote: Lightningbolt wrote: Not everyone makes fun of new players. I welcome ALL new players and welcome to the forum.

Did you just even read everything that has just ben posted?

CoolHand,

                 The best advice anyone can give you is:

Never stop asking questions. In other words, always assume there there’s more to learn because believe me, there always will be!   

Don’t be discouraged if you encounter any individuals that don’t like the fact that you don’t know as much as they do.  We were all newbies at one point, I still am!  Although some might flame you, there are still plenty of people here that will help you.

Don’t be afraid to PM someone directly if you don’t feel like posting something publicly.

Search when you can.  Just realize that sometimes that you may have to go through several series of postings before you get to any information you might find useful.  It depends on the subject.

Always make sure to post some sort of thanks if you found the post useful or helpful.  This shows your courtesy as well as letting someone else know that their help was useful and appreciated.

Hope this helps you.