I think was a great speech.  I really did not expect that good of speech.  That really changed my look on the election.  I really can't wait til the Republic National Convention.  I want to see what Bush is cooking up.

His wife sure cant talk......She says she can speak 5 different languages. English isnt one of them either cause she sounds like shes been living here a 2 months. And people that know that many languages must have alot of time on there hands.........well I guess growning up in south Afrika she would...unless she herds elephants or catches AIDS.

And yes SHE DID grow up in SA.

PbSplintercell wrote: bush already ruined it!

no...

how is gettin soldier who willingly signed up for the army and knew what they might be getting themselves into ruining America? I dont know but when Clinton sent those troops to Somalia he sure didnt ruin America now did he? I really hate the way you liberals think. Clinton did a ton of worse things than Bush but the min Bush does something good and right you all jump on him like it was bad.

Seriously stop.

BTW anyone else find it funny how Kerry started his speech?

CarbineKid wrote: "I am saddened by the fact that Vietnam has yet again been inserted into the campaign, and that it has been inserted in what I feel to be the worst possible way.....The race for the White House should be about leadership, and leadership requires that one help heal the wounds of Vietnam, not reopen them....We do not need to divide America over who served and how." -Senator John F. Kerry, February 27, 1992 Congressional Record.

how ironic makes me want to go to the DNC and shut em all down!

Kerry is just a stupid Liberal Commie. I beleive that if he takes office america is screwed. Hell ull prolly have to move to Canada *shudders*. Cause kerry is the UNs bestfreind which I think the UN is useless any how so theres no chance of us being feared anymore. Plus to kerry wants to reinstate Clitons gun ban which will suck.

MAK90's are legal arent they?

Ilikepaintball1 wrote: I think was a great speech.  I really did not expect that good of speech.  That really changed my look on the election.  I really can't wait til the Republic National Convention.  I want to see what Bush is cooking up.

bush and speaches is like forks and microwaves

I bet you repubs will be kicking your self when we get allies and a strong econmy hey maybey you can get a job

you communist

HondaXR wrote: It was a threat that needed to be handled....

exactly. people think we didn't need this war. but we caught sadam didnt we. now we are trying to catch osama. and if we do,  it will make liberals even more ignorant.

what threat?  the only reason Saddam kept inspectors out of the country was so people would think he had weapons of mass destruction.  This wasn't even about bad intelligence it was about money.

yes we caught Saddam and look how unstable the region has become! you fool.

PbSplintercell wrote: VisionIMP wrote: how is gettin soldier who willingly signed up for the army and knew what they might be getting themselves into ruining America? I dont know but when Clinton sent those troops to Somalia he sure didnt ruin America now did he? I really hate the way you liberals think. Clinton did a ton of worse things than Bush but the min Bush does something good and right you all jump on him like it was bad. Seriously stop. BTW anyone else find it funny how Kerry started his speech?       did i say anythign about clinton??????

What you said is exactly what Clinton had done. No need to say Clinton exactly you summed it up by insulting Bush.

BTW.....STRONG ALLIES! HA! France, Germany, and Russia, all sold Iraq its nuclear generators and material. Thats one reason they didnt want us to go into Iraq. We dont need the whole world as our allies, does it look like China has the whole world as their allies? NO!! And they're doing great.SOOOO great all you liberal pansies think they are gonna start a war with us and win.

Fallout_soldier wrote: what threat?  the only reason Saddam kept inspectors out of the country was so people would think he had weapons of mass destruction.  This wasn't even about bad intelligence it was about money. yes we caught Saddam and look how unstable the region has become! you fool.

Oh god if that isnt the stupidest thing ive heard all night.

He only kept inspectors out to make us think he had WMDS? What is wrong with you!!!!! You know what its not even worth explaining, that was just the most idiotic thing ive ever read.

And another thing, all you liberals say that this war was for oil. Now it was for money. But if that was soo true why are gas prices sooo high and how come the us has a debt to pay off still. You people are just soo stupid. Make up your mind.

HondaXR wrote: Dude when you have a pshycotic man over seas that says he has nuclear weapons, I dont know about you but id consider that a threat.

well then i guess we should be in like 7 other countrys right now. shouldn't we Saddam wanted to appear to be a threat so we would leave him alone.  bush wanted him to appear as a threat for his personal gain.  Bush is the terrorist hes the reason why poor people with no Ware els to go but the army are geting killed.  You know why so halibertons stock will go up.

Perfectly fine with me.....

HondaXR wrote: Perfectly fine with me.....

ha! awesome. Hey fallout soldier care to respond to what i said.

5ptcontingency wrote: HondaXR wrote: hell we could have flattened Iraq in a matter of days and been through and I would have been perfectly happy....what have Iraqies done for me lately. Besides say how much they hate us and burn our flag? Woohoo, kill 20 million people because they have opinions! I can't stand it when people suggest the total destruction of an entire nation and people. A lot of Americans hate America, should we flatten America as well?

20 million? Now you're just exaggerating.

PaintMonkey wrote: You all are rediculous, calling people nazis, commies and stupid fools with no evidence to support it.

In fact, you all sound like little children.  You are spouting off whatever labels you hear around the dining table with no understanding of what you are saying.  You are all embarassing yourselves.

boomstick wrote: ignorant.

I'm sorry.  Nobody with your sig gets to call anybody else ignorant - EVER.  Your sig is like tattooing "I don't know what I'm talking about but I like to toss labels around" on your forehead.

VisionIMP wrote: 20 million? Now you're just exaggerating.

Actually, he is understating.  Iraq has a population of about 24 million.

VisionIMP wrote: Fallout_soldier wrote: what threat?  the only reason Saddam kept inspectors out of the country was so people would think he had weapons of mass destruction.  This wasn't even about bad intelligence it was about money. yes we caught Saddam and look how unstable the region has become! you fool. Oh god if that isn't the stupidest thing ive heard all night. He only kept inspectors out to make us think he had WMDS? What is wrong with you!!!!! You know what its not even worth explaining, that was just the most idiotic thing ive ever read. And another thing, all you liberals say that this war was for oil. Now it was for money. But if that was soo true why are gas prices sooo high and how come the us has a debt to pay off still. You people are just soo stupid. Make up your mind.

so if he had WMD whare are they?  what about his ties with al-quida?  their are none you ignorant baboon()  The war is why oil cost so much.  The war is not so you can get your gas for a buck less it so bushes and Chaney's stock in hlibertan will go up.

Ajreaper wrote: The democrats may want to wash their hands of this and point the finger at Bush and the republicans but they put us all on the path to what has transpired. There is no party that does not share in all that's has transpired.

The bold is very true.  Which makes it all the more ironic when so many Clinton critics conveniently forget that Republican administrations created Osama...

No weapons? Theyve already discovered a lot of sarin tipped war heads and all that other good stuff, but you dont hear that on the media.

Wanna hear a funny story straight from a veteran of the Iraq war? A city in Iraq was evacuated, every civilian and army personal. Want to know why? There was readings of Uranium found within the city. Now please do tell me theres no WMDS.

Funny all this coming from someone who wants to nuke canada.

^you obviously have no sense of humor. 

OK i have an idea lets go to war looking for WMD and after or children die and we find some WMD well keep it our little secret.  Doesn't make sens to me.

they already have! And you obviously dont know the media. Most stuff that goes on in Iraq are never let lose to the public. Theres tons of stories of heroic actions that you never hear about either on the media, all you ever hear is how many died.

Do you even watch any form of news? Because if you did you would understand what im saying, you ignorant fool.

^The fact is your are a bigger idiot than me.  Take of your caps.  Finding WMDS in Iraq would be a huge HUGE story especially since it could affect the election magerly.  The media reports story's. They reports the leek about the plans to go to Iraq remember.  If they cant keep their mouths shut then why would they keep them shut when the bigest story in the past 4 years pops up?  let me guess you think some on is paying them off right

o yea...of course someone is paying them off. way to make assumptions! First off im not the media. Second the media is the media they never did and they never will work for the country only their own success and themselves. I dont know why they dont report this stuff why dont YOU ask them yourself.

The truth of the matter is WMD's have been, are being, and will be found whether you want to believe it or not.

BTW the caps were to stress the fact to your thick skull, I dont know maybe its the fact that they letter are big and you can understand them better. I know how little tiny letters can make it hard for you to decipher.

Ejp414 wrote: So if I said the idiot is wrong out of the two, who would I be referring to in this case?

oh funny man. Grow up loser.

I give up.  visionIMP you win the prize

Clark Kent wrote: boomstick wrote: ignorant. I'm sorry.  Nobody with your sig gets to call anybody else ignorant - EVER.  Your sig is like tattooing "I don't know what I'm talking about but I like to toss labels around" on your forehead.

my sig was an inside joke among friends. i don't really think kerry is a nazi or hitler. its just a joke.

one more thing it would be in the medias best intrest to report on a frekin huge story like that you dult.

Ejp414 wrote: VisionIMP wrote: its the fact that they letter are big and you can understand them better. Need I say more? Learn to spell, type, debate, and act civil before telling me to grow up.

You'll just have to let it go man. There are too many people that lash out and call us commies and talk about how liberals are the "devil." If some of these people, not all, actually took the time to prepare an argument and research things then they might have intelligent comments. One person said that after 30 seconds of Kerry's speach he walked out because Kerry said we went to Iraq with false information. The fact of the matter is the CIA had just come out and admitted to going to war on false premises and blowing up information. How can you get mad at the truth? People are going to flame and spout their opinions without doing research or clearly looking at the situation. Just do your part and vote. Then we'll see who wins.

By the way, Kerry's speach was very good, although the best speach given was by Al Sharpton suprisingly. That man could have touched a dead person. He was brilliant, although I don't normally agree with him.

WUNgUN wrote: Dune wrote: Okay, then lets just ignore the CIA report, seems like everyone else has been doing that for over a week. My point is that all politicians take sides and manipulate "intelligence" accordingly. I did some research and in 1998 Clinton was trying to rally support for an invasion of Iraq. Republicans were not buying it. Same year, Yetsin feared that Iraq was on the verge of starting World War III. Switch presidents and parties, and everything changes, literally. Similar to Vietnam Era politics.

Ah okay, I understand what you're saying now. I do agree with you on most of that. The Republicans in the later 1990's were not ready to go back into Iraq, I remember that.

Getting back on topic here....

I liked Kerry's speech. He said what he needed to say and he did a good job saying it. A great speech presented in a great way. It seemed to me like he really meant what he was saying.

I agree with Dune though. Sharpton without a doubt had the best speech at the convention. That was just great. I was also very impressed with Obama's speech, even more so than I was with Kerry's.

I really didn't appreciate the conservative reporters though... They really took away from most of the enjoyment of the program. I was watching CNN by the way.

Hahahahahaha, did anyone else laugh at the director of events at the end of Kerry's speech? "More baloons. Where are the baloons? I don't see baloons. Come on, baloons, baloons, baloons, baloons. Where the hell are the baloons? Come on confetti." Hahahahahaha, that was great.

Badsmitty wrote: The speech should have left me all aglow, but it didn't.

Its because there were no baloons.

fractus.scud wrote: I didnt care for Kerrys speech. I really don't like Kerry at all, but listening to Al Gore scream like a wild man was hilarious.

tis true tis very true

Before 9/11 the U.S hadnt been in any or very few acts of war so to speak but yet we still got attacked. Its been 3 years since 9/11 and we havnent been attacked yet. Yep i think its all working.

BTW ejp14 dont tell me to grow up, when you're sitting there complaing because i forgot an  s and added a y on accident. I can also pull up a few of your posts completely contradicting yourself by telling me to grow up.

EDIT. Bravo Rednek for that long but good read. I completely agree with you, although im leaning towards Bush on this election. Like you said Kerry hasnt said one thing about what he will do with this whole iraq thing and terrorism.

rednekk98 wrote: Care to state an alternative to dealing with terrorism?

Although I dont agree with it 100% I think I get what hes saying.

Insted of overtaking a country that has terrorists in it, we should hunt down the terrorists themselves.

That works on paper, but can have its own difficulties.

Clark Kent wrote: Ajreaper wrote: The democrats may want to wash their hands of this and point the finger at Bush and the republicans but they put us all on the path to what has transpired. There is no party that does not share in all that's has transpired.  The bold is very true.  Which makes it all the more ironic when so many Clinton critics conveniently forget that Republican administrations created Osama...

Funny, I always thought Mrs and MR Bin Laden created osama. shows how little i know,

-Kasey

VisionIMP wrote: Before 9/11 the U.S hadnt been in any or very few acts of war so to speak but yet we still got attacked. Its been 3 years since 9/11 and we havnent been attacked yet. Yep i think its all working.

Watch the news much?

rednekk98 wrote: Tae Kwon Do wrote: rednekk98 wrote: Care to state an alternative to dealing with terrorism? Although I dont agree with it 100% I think I get what hes saying. Insted of overtaking a country that has terrorists in it, we should hunt down the terrorists themselves. That works on paper, but can have its own difficulties. That'd be great if we could do it really. But getting terrorist out of Iraq with Saddam in power would be a tad tricky eh?

This might be a tad irrelivant, but there are actually A LOT more terrorists in Iraq now that Saddam is out of power. And if I remember correctly bush led us into Iraq to destroy said "WMDs", not to clense the country of terrorists.

*EDITED* I had some trouble putting this post together. With editing those quotes and all it got kind of tricky. I hope I didn't mess it up.

Hmm no wars when clinton was in office. Lets See.1993 Somalia, 18 American Soldiers dead 2 blackhawks downed. 1998 or earlier. Bombings in Yugoslavia and Iraq lasted for a year or more.

Go read that long post by rednekk Tippy98aac.