R/T ---=VS=--- E-Grip
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Topic: R/T ---=VS=--- E-Grip
Posted By: slimjim23
Subject: R/T ---=VS=--- E-Grip
Date Posted: 31 July 2004 at 10:21pm
| I don't know if it matters or not, but I like woodsball. Anyway I'm looking for the more reliable of the two, and whatever performs better. Please give reasons for your choices, thanks. |
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Posted By: 98c - baller
Date Posted: 31 July 2004 at 10:24pm
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e-grip : tourney legal, differnet fire modes, 15bps RT : not tourney legal, takes some time to get used to "sweatspotting" it, its a gas-hog, 14-15bps ------------- |
Posted By: 98c-Ownage
Date Posted: 31 July 2004 at 10:25pm
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well i perosnally belive its abour prefrence, however, think about it... price wise, the more expensive item is always better :-) so if you have the money get the e-bolt i would say ------------- 98c Flatline Polished Internals Trigger Stop Double Trigger 32* Remote Redz 2and1 harness Stinless Steel Bolts Those who see me fear me, those who don't see me fear me more - Semper Fi |
Posted By: 98c - baller
Date Posted: 31 July 2004 at 10:30pm
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dude he has an A5 see " E-grip " its alot less than the 98's "E-bolt" ------------- |
Posted By: Silent Slayer
Date Posted: 31 July 2004 at 10:49pm
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definately e-grip once youve used them both then ull know why ------------- a5 polished internals flatline custom aluminum foregrip drop e grip w/custom blade trigger palmer stabalizer 71ci 4500psi dye throttle dye invisions vision impy tapeworm crossfire 88/45 EVO |
Posted By: airballer12
Date Posted: 01 August 2004 at 12:32am
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egrip fasho ------------- me and my friends have won 1st in 3 out of 3 5 man airball tournaments in the rookie division, woot! Front Playa- Team Confuzion my tippy: 98c w/ all american barrel, ebolt, egg 2 hopper |
Posted By: slimjim23
Date Posted: 01 August 2004 at 9:56am
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dang...now i dont know what to do. i was planning on getting the r/t. is it really a gas hog? i thought it was just like the cyclone, using excess gas. also, i wanted the more mechanical one rather than the electronic one... i'm getting an expansion chamber also. would that eliminate the problem of using too much gas? (if that really is true) thanks |
Posted By: Bob'sA-5
Date Posted: 01 August 2004 at 12:15pm
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little fields don't let you have full auto or burst get a RT ------------- A-5 $200 Flatline $150 RT $80 Rufus Dawg Wicked Bolt $40 68ci 4500psi Crosfire tank $180 Stickers $5 The ability to bunker two guys with shockers priceless |
Posted By: 98c-Ownage
Date Posted: 01 August 2004 at 7:25pm
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ggggggggggggggggcorrect ------------- 98c Flatline Polished Internals Trigger Stop Double Trigger 32* Remote Redz 2and1 harness Stinless Steel Bolts Those who see me fear me, those who don't see me fear me more - Semper Fi |
98c - baller wrote:Posted By: Bomber Brigade
Date Posted: 01 August 2004 at 7:31pm
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Posted By: tekman
Date Posted: 01 August 2004 at 7:31pm
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rt is cheaper and works very good for the price, but egrip is better, if u have the money. I guess for the a-5 its only like 30 dollars more, so go that route if u can. My brother uses turbo and shoots faster than full auto, and he even said that turbo mode is trny legal, but I dont know. |
Posted By: 98c - baller
Date Posted: 01 August 2004 at 7:38pm
wow, take some time and read up on da A5, all da expansion chameber will do is make it a less chance to freeze up, HPA is still da best, note HPA will work w/o a reg (high pressure) ------------- |
Posted By: Random_Person
Date Posted: 01 August 2004 at 8:59pm
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E-Grip all the way. ------------- http://profile.xfire.com/kentuckyfriedgangsta"> 
I wish my grass was emo so it would cut itself. |
Posted By: icemonkey34
Date Posted: 01 August 2004 at 9:28pm
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Hey I was also wondering which is better the response or the e-grip...the thing is i used to have a spyder imagine (now i have the A-5 but u figured that out) and the electronics always screwed up and the same thing happened to many other imagines i've seen so has anyone with an e-grip ever had any serious problems with the electronics of it??? ------------- Sssssssssniped!!! |
Posted By: 98c-Ownage
Date Posted: 01 August 2004 at 10:01pm
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sure thing mr nasty boy who barbecues with pics of me ------------- 98c Flatline Polished Internals Trigger Stop Double Trigger 32* Remote Redz 2and1 harness Stinless Steel Bolts Those who see me fear me, those who don't see me fear me more - Semper Fi |
Posted By: slimjim23
Date Posted: 01 August 2004 at 11:39pm
| ok so...which is more reliable then? |
Posted By: 98sniper
Date Posted: 02 August 2004 at 1:32am
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r/t is more reliable, the e grip has a bad habbit of dbounce. but if you ever want to play a tourny get the e grip. but if not i would say the r/t. cheaper and the only reason he wants the e grip is for full auto. what ever you think you want to do in the future. ------------- 98c x chamber revi 12vlt w/x bko halo tsa backman shocktech drop soon to get e orracle 
crossfire tank boomstic kaner kit egg 2 w/z board |
Posted By: slimjim23
Date Posted: 02 August 2004 at 10:33am
| allright lets say it this way: i dont plan on gettin in any tournaments i just play casually. and people with e-grips always annoyed me because most of them hide behind a tree and hold the trigger down like a sissy-girl (hope that doesnt offend anyone). i'm not lookin for the one with the higher bps. so i need the truth, how much gas would i be "wasting" with an r/t? |
Posted By: Your mama
Date Posted: 02 August 2004 at 12:14pm
| r/t because its cheaper shoots alittle faster u can sweetspot it for 3 round 2 round or what ever else round burst u can think of under 15-17 bps the other thing is u said u play woodsball so who the heck cares if it cant be used in most foelds or tournies just find a freind with a acre or two and play there the r/t is more reliable because if u have problems its easy to fix because its all mechanicle so unless u have gone to school to learn how to fix computer chips and all that crap i guess the response trigger is better. the r/t is way better and way more reliable for most people in my mind. it douse use excess gas just like the cyclone feed. |
Posted By: LordJovian
Date Posted: 02 August 2004 at 12:50pm
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Baaahhhh! The e-grip has a small problem with not tripping the sear when the battery is somewhat used- but oiling the sear tripper will fix that. The E-grip can be used just like an R/T in certain modes. The E-grip isn't just for high rate of fire, it's much easier to use than the R/T. My n00b friend rented an A-5 with the R/T and he had loads of trouble getting it to do what he wanted on the field when balls were flying over his head. The E-grip is much easier- plus if you don't want to just paint the field three round burst is nice for a very controlled full-auto effect. The E-grip by far is easier to amntain than the R/T- an R/T problem is mechanical, meaning you might have to buy new parts, replace hoses, etc. The E-grip you either oil it, change a battery, or tell Tippmann it's screwed up (rarely happens) and they'll send you a new one. That's about the extent of it. The E-grip is not complicated. ------------- A-5 E-grip Chipley Custom Carbon Graphite 16" Evil Adapter(Spyder) 32 Deg New '03 XChamber Remote Line Gun Sling Sniper f/x Stock LPK 68/4500 HPA R-5 CP Reg JCS Duel Trigger |
Posted By: slimjim23
Date Posted: 02 August 2004 at 9:58pm
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dang im so lost right now on which to get. "your mama" says r/t is more reliable and then LordJovian says e-grip is more reliable. and if the r/t is using excess gas like "your mama" said, why would i be wasting gas?
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Posted By: 98sniper
Date Posted: 02 August 2004 at 10:01pm
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r/t and since your worried about the gas. with the extra money u safe buy a fillstation. ------------- 98c x chamber revi 12vlt w/x bko halo tsa backman shocktech drop soon to get e orracle
crossfire tank boomstic kaner kit egg 2 w/z board |
Posted By: slimjim23
Date Posted: 02 August 2004 at 10:47pm
| ^^^lol |
Posted By: Purrrsian
Date Posted: 02 August 2004 at 10:48pm
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i got a rt and i love it! e bolt has all those extra things you dont need and with the money u use to buy that u could just buy a whole new gun. i installed my rt myself in less than 30 mins because it only has 2 or 3 parts. and just looking at the e bolt makes me confused! also u need to replace it with batteries all the time and it still might cut out in the middle of a game and thats gonna suck! if it were me i wouldnt want to be messing with the fire rate or operation or whatever while ur trying to play. a rt is sooooo simple! u either tap the trigger or hold it. and i heard that in a test it shot up to 20 bps! i dont think many people need to shoot much faster than that. |
Posted By: 98sniper
Date Posted: 03 August 2004 at 12:41am
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yeah the only reason you want it is for the fullauto so you should just get a r/t ------------- 98c x chamber revi 12vlt w/x bko halo tsa backman shocktech drop soon to get e orracle
crossfire tank boomstic kaner kit egg 2 w/z board |
Posted By: slimjim23
Date Posted: 03 August 2004 at 9:03am
| ...bump |
Posted By: 98c - baller
Date Posted: 03 August 2004 at 9:23am
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wat 20 bps!! ur crazy the A5 can only cycle at 15cps and da 98 is 13cps, so 20 bps is impossible, yet with polished internals u might get 1 more bps ------------- |
Posted By: sd A-5
Date Posted: 04 August 2004 at 9:30pm
| get an e-grip its so much easier to maintain im like u i casually play and when i do its usually woods ball and i've found that if u get pinned down its much easier to just turn a switch to get the fire mode u want instead of trying to find a sweet spot trust me the e-grip is deff worth the extra $$ and i've yet to have a problem with mine |
Posted By: slimjim23
Date Posted: 04 August 2004 at 10:17pm
| well i've heard alot of good and not so good things...but i think i'm gonna go with the r/t. if anyone else still has comments or wants to sway my decision, go on ahead. |
Posted By: FyreFly
Date Posted: 04 August 2004 at 10:25pm
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I have an R/T in my A-5, but I much prefer the E-Grip.
When in the heat of a game, you don't have time to concentrate on sweet spotting as well as when your just laying cover fire... I always seem to have a problem sweet spotting at the wrong times, like when doing a run through. Its VERY hard to sweet spot while running... on the other hand, and E-Grip w/ double trigger is easily walkable, at least for me, even on a run. The E-Grip is much easier to shoot. If I were you, I would go down to a shop or something and see if they would let you try out an R/T and then an E-Grip, so you can see how they feel for yourself. ------------- 
System X NME LE WGP Orracle Cocker Tippmann A-5 E-Grip & LPK Tippmann 98C Flatline & LPK |
Posted By: Purrrsian
Date Posted: 05 August 2004 at 12:33am
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good choice! the rt was definately the best pick |
Posted By: Paycho
Date Posted: 05 August 2004 at 10:02am
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Dude an rt is good but it is as others said 1.gas hog 2. not turney legal 3.if you don't have an electronic feed hopper ur balls will split so an e grip might be better although; 1. in woods if they get wet or banged up real bad you'll have lots of problems 2. not allways relable if ur battery dies and stuff. but besides that their great i would recomend either one its your preference but if you doo have an expansion chamber and a atomatic feed you'll be fine in the woods or in speed just cant play in tourneys! ------------- Brains, Brains, Brains! Most Celebros mmmmmmmm! 
98 custum dye 14" barrel double trigger |
Posted By: autosniper
Date Posted: 05 August 2004 at 10:14am
Dude there are no batteries in a rt ------------- "DON'T RUN, YOU'LL JUST DIE TIRED" 98c flatline rt 2x trig empire rev. bi-pod remote line grn to blk fade w/ blk flames |
Posted By: Paycho
Date Posted: 05 August 2004 at 10:38am
i was talking about the egrip learn to read before you crtitize ------------- Brains, Brains, Brains! Most Celebros mmmmmmmm!
98 custum dye 14" barrel double trigger |
Posted By: LordJovian
Date Posted: 05 August 2004 at 12:50pm
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Ok- someone said it took 30minutes to install the R/T- well, the E-grip took me five while I was eating dinner. Yes, they're both really reliable slimjim23- they're made by Tippmann. You're getting down to rare freaky occasions where something broke- like I said, an E-grip is just easier to repair if something horrible did happen. Plus, the E-grip (please note it's the E-grip, not the E-bolt) is only 30 bucks more. That's it- only 30 more for easier, legal shooting. It's your call, but I'd mow a few more lawns for the E-grip. They don't get wet that easily- the board is pretty well contained in the grip. Carry an extra battery in your pocket- it's not hard, not in the way, and you can change it real quick on the field (disconnect air supply first!!!!) I think I'd prefer having to change a battery on the field than run tubing. ------------- A-5 E-grip Chipley Custom Carbon Graphite 16" Evil Adapter(Spyder) 32 Deg New '03 XChamber Remote Line Gun Sling Sniper f/x Stock LPK 68/4500 HPA R-5 CP Reg JCS Duel Trigger |
Posted By: slimjim23
Date Posted: 05 August 2004 at 5:24pm
| hmmmm |
Posted By: The Ho
Date Posted: 08 August 2004 at 2:03am
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I seriously recomend the e-grip 1. it is tourny legal 2. it is simple to maintain 3. doesnt use any gas at all 4. easy to put in the gun 5. has multiple fireing modes, cool for lighting people up with paint! ------------- I LIKE BIKES! |
Posted By: 98sniper
Date Posted: 08 August 2004 at 2:32am
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dude the r/t doesn't use more air than your gun shoots. it takes the extra air that your gun doesn't use. the r/t is the way to go. don't listen to them because they thin that it takes more air to use well go look for your self on the tippmann site in systems or accessories ------------- 98c x chamber revi 12vlt w/x bko halo tsa backman shocktech drop soon to get e orracle
crossfire tank boomstic kaner kit egg 2 w/z board |
Posted By: FyreFly
Date Posted: 08 August 2004 at 12:12pm
It does use more air. Do you have one? I don't see R/T in your sig. Take it from ppl who use it, it DOES use more air.... not alot more, but just enough to notice. -------------
System X NME LE WGP Orracle Cocker Tippmann A-5 E-Grip & LPK Tippmann 98C Flatline & LPK |
Posted By: Benjichang
Date Posted: 08 August 2004 at 12:23pm
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Posted By: 98c OwNaGe
Date Posted: 08 August 2004 at 1:17pm
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e-grip... ------------- 98c Trigger Stop Red Dot Pointer Flatline Barrel Redz 2+1 Harness GTA Double Trigger Steel Screws http://tippmann.com/players/forum/wwf77a/forum_posts.asp?TID =109849&PN=1&TPN=1 |
Posted By: The Ho
Date Posted: 08 August 2004 at 7:48pm
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yep ------------- I LIKE BIKES! |
Posted By: ac600ccer
Date Posted: 08 August 2004 at 8:57pm
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it's the way to go. just remember, you take care of it,it will take care of you. ------------- my A-5 setup,sp freak kit,pro-seal powertube,E-grip,cp 45* drop,polished internals,GTA lpk,palmers fatty stab.crossfire 45/4500 ,dye rhino cover,jcs duel trigger |
Posted By: pballraper
Date Posted: 09 August 2004 at 10:24am
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ok guys the r/t is not a gas hog. it uses excess gas, it works the same way that the cyclone feed works. alot of people call it a gas hog because when you use it you usually shoot alot therefore using alot of gas. but then again you would be shooting a lot with the e-bolt too so you would use up a lot of gas and paint with that too. def get the r/t it keeps it nice and simple and you could shoot as fast as the ebolt. plus lots less money. |
Posted By: pballraper
Date Posted: 09 August 2004 at 10:35am
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and most fields don't care if you have an r/t and if they do you could easily turn it off by putting in the blockage screw thing. and the r/t is easy to reapair there are like 3 parts to it and no elctricity to it. the e-grip is much more complicated and alot more could go wronge. |
Posted By: A5 all the way
Date Posted: 09 August 2004 at 1:39pm
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hey if you put e grip on auto response it can be even faster than auto
------------- A5 w/ e girp indian creek b2k w/ pds 32 degrees drop forward halo tsa hopper super fly bolt |
Posted By: FyreFly
Date Posted: 09 August 2004 at 6:00pm
Define excess! I don't think that taking air straight out of the valve BEFORE it reaches the paintball is exactly excess! Some people still think that the RT uses "blowback gas". This is incorrect. The fitting banjo is installed in the wrong place to use blowback gas. -------------
System X NME LE WGP Orracle Cocker Tippmann A-5 E-Grip & LPK Tippmann 98C Flatline & LPK |