Auto Cocker + Cyclone Feeder (Diagram)
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Topic: Auto Cocker + Cyclone Feeder (Diagram)
Posted By: TIPPMANN P8NT
Subject: Auto Cocker + Cyclone Feeder (Diagram)
Date Posted: 04 August 2004 at 4:17pm
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Keep in mind I know almost nothing about auto cockers, but seeing how they uses extra gas to recock the gun in a different way than other simautos, I was thinking that if a gun was made like and auto cocker but with an extra side rod attached to the cyclone’s “Feeder Ratchet” (instead of a spring), the loading speed could be much faster as well as upping the force of the Cyclone. It’s just a thought, and I don’t every expect to see anything like this, but I have given it quit a bit of thought. It could work… Im working on a diagram. so you can see what I mean, It sould be up today Here is the Diagram, just copy and pasted it. http://img49.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img49&image=A-5Auto1.jpg |
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Posted By: Homer J
Date Posted: 04 August 2004 at 4:31pm
| Ummm the Cyclone feed is gas-operated... |
Posted By: TIPPMANN P8NT
Date Posted: 04 August 2004 at 4:37pm
| yes I know, but only half, what rely pushes the ball in to the gun in a spring. |
Posted By: jeep 98 custom
Date Posted: 04 August 2004 at 5:56pm
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Wouldn't work. Cockers are closed bolt, so the rod that hits the
cyclone would go back, and that's when the chamber is open, then when
it went forward and pushed the cyclone to turn it, the bolt would be
forward blocking the chamber, so the ball wouldn't get in. And the
cyclone sucks anyways...
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Posted By: LittleAnsel
Date Posted: 04 August 2004 at 11:26pm
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I would disagree with you on the cyclone, I had the gun for
almost a year and only had a few ball chops and none of had anything to do with the cyclone.  ------------- Humans were put on earth to play paintball |
Posted By: kwkmrorange
Date Posted: 04 August 2004 at 11:42pm
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He said it sucked becuase it isnt very practical for speedball because of the added side profile. ------------- 
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Posted By: TIPPMANN P8NT
Date Posted: 04 August 2004 at 11:42pm
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Whear in my post do you see anything about the Cyclone choping paint??? Im just talking about makeing the alredy FAST cyclone, even faster. |
LittleAnsel wrote:Posted By: TIPPMANN P8NT
Date Posted: 04 August 2004 at 11:44pm
What are you talking about? Who said it suck... |
Posted By: jeep 98 custom
Date Posted: 04 August 2004 at 11:47pm
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^^^Me.
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Posted By: TIPPMANN P8NT
Date Posted: 04 August 2004 at 11:51pm
| O, ok |
Posted By: FamilyDog
Date Posted: 05 August 2004 at 9:19pm
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cockers dont impress me |
Posted By: jeep 98 custom
Date Posted: 06 August 2004 at 12:25am
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^^Agreed, they're not all that great, They are nice guns, but more mid level. There's better out there.
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Posted By: TIPPMANN P8NT
Date Posted: 06 August 2004 at 11:05am
| ok. well brag about how grate of a player you are in some other post. Get back on topic! |
Posted By: TIPPMANN P8NT
Date Posted: 06 August 2004 at 11:28am
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Diagram just added ^^^ at the bottom of the post |
Posted By: spydero99
Date Posted: 06 August 2004 at 1:41pm
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hey i feel insulted!! I use a 2k4 prostock cocker, when i get my worrblade and kaner kit it will be just as good as your shocker i love cockers, they are so accurate and just plain cool ------------- erm, eh, well, ok, your right, i am sorry Enos, i dont know what i ever did, but you have jurasdiction over the forum, so, i am sorry for all i have done to offen you Enos |
Posted By: spydero99
Date Posted: 06 August 2004 at 1:41pm
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http://img49.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img49&image=A-5Auto1.jpg - http://img49.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img49&image=A-5Auto1.jpg ------------- erm, eh, well, ok, your right, i am sorry Enos, i dont know what i ever did, but you have jurasdiction over the forum, so, i am sorry for all i have done to offen you Enos |
Posted By: jeep 98 custom
Date Posted: 07 August 2004 at 12:28am
In no way did I mean to insult you, I'm just saying, they're better out there. Cocker's are too complex, have way to much to go wrong. And no matter what you do to it, it's still going to be bigger, heavier, and have more kick than my Shocker. Plus, my Shocker doesn't leak  .------------- "Yes there are two path you can go back, but in the long run, there's still time to change the road you're on"
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Posted By: A5 dude15
Date Posted: 07 August 2004 at 11:41am
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Posted By: bababooie
Date Posted: 07 August 2004 at 1:15pm
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boo cockers. what if a ball hits th tube then ur screwed. the those rams and stuff get heavy. Im gald im gong to get a 03 shocker. thought i liek the sound the cocker makes ------------- Paintball is about personal prefrance, speed ball is on luck |
Posted By: Enos Shenk
Date Posted: 08 August 2004 at 1:23pm
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Theres no way that would work. If you split air coming off the 3-way
like that, the cyclone is going to suck so much air, the cocking ram
will be starved. You would have to increase pneumatics pressure to
accomodate, and that would probably blow hoses.
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Posted By: The Ho
Date Posted: 08 August 2004 at 11:27pm
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Like enos said it wont work. ------------- I LIKE BIKES! |
Posted By: TIPPMANN P8NT
Date Posted: 08 August 2004 at 11:55pm
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Well, it's was a good idea in theory. O well, thanks guys. ------------- "Caution, Lethal in large doses" www.freewebs.com/teamlethaldose |
Posted By: Enos Shenk
Date Posted: 09 August 2004 at 12:47am
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It was a good idea man. Im sure it could be done, but the expense and
work involved would be enormous. Milling the reciever to mount the
cyclone, making or buying a front block with dual LPR mounting, making
or buying a 3/2 way valve to operate the normal cocking, and also
turning on the cyclone. Keep thinking, the only way paintball moves is with new ideas. Not enough people bother. -------------
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Posted By: bmanrkg3
Date Posted: 09 August 2004 at 6:42pm
| actually, what about a dual ram? the second ram would actuate the cyclone... |