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Topic: ups and downs

Posted By: a5freak
Subject: ups and downs
Date Posted: 08 August 2004 at 8:08am

What are the good and bad things about an a-5?

Replies:

Posted By: plax_are_meth
Date Posted: 08 August 2004 at 8:26am

good :

fast shooting
durable

bad :

gas hog
if one paintball accidentaly breaks in cyclone, the cyclone turns into a paint blender (chops all ur paint)
overpriced
got a weird asa

thats pretty much it. in reference to ur poll, get the e99. pm me for why the E99 can beat up the A5

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Posted By: a5freak
Date Posted: 08 August 2004 at 8:31am

Thanks! I was thinking about an e-99 avant or a rodeo if the a-5 was out. Can you help me on that?

Posted By: plax_are_meth
Date Posted: 08 August 2004 at 8:46am

yes. the basics between the rodeo (which i have) and the e99 avant (which i want)

rodeo specs:

mechanical
light trigger pull but it still alot of pull
has an ok built in reg/expansion chamber with a gauge that ACTUALLY works
stock barrel is decent...but u should still buy a new one.
the vertical adapter where the regualtor screws in has different threading so if u want to buy a new regulator (palmers male is awesome) u got to buy a new vertical adaptor. but the stock reg is good too. rare occasions does it spike velocity.
it is one of the spyders that dont break
the beavertail is sharp as poo. take it off right away. its only held by one screw.
of course the rodeo is cool looking especially if u get in in matte black

e99 avant

electric
got the 4 modes of fire-semi, 3 burst, 6 burst, full auto
really light and small trigger pull
finally a spyder that has a low rise feed neck. but its plastic so be careful
doesnt come with a reg but it has a regular vertical adaptor so u can just buy a reg and put it on.
stock barrel is ok
very popular and works smoothly
if u put a tigershark bolt in it and a titanium striker u hardly feel any kick

im helpful when it comes to spyders.<----best guns ever. woot.

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Posted By: NMLvaio
Date Posted: 08 August 2004 at 10:39am

Well the bads if you don't know how to strip field the A-5 you might put something in wrong.

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Posted By: †Sniper†
Date Posted: 08 August 2004 at 10:44am

NMLvaio wrote:

Well the bads if you don't know how to strip field the A-5 you might put something in wrong.

That applies to every gun dude...honestly...

Posted By: plax_are_meth
Date Posted: 08 August 2004 at 10:58am

i put the bolt in my outkast in upside down once.... that will never happen again.

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Posted By: Semper Durus
Date Posted: 08 August 2004 at 11:19am

Oh.. and... um... yeah I think that Plax_are_meth told you everything except that the A-5 is fairly heavy and most of it is plastic. (Although the plastic is ballistic strength).

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Posted By: whiteknight457
Date Posted: 08 August 2004 at 1:18pm

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Posted By: The Ho
Date Posted: 08 August 2004 at 1:28pm

good=fast, cool lookin,durable,reliable, you really wont have to worry about the cyclone breaking a ball that much.

bad=heavy,some plastic, uses alittle bit more gas but not much

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Posted By: rave5910
Date Posted: 08 August 2004 at 1:46pm

pros:
cyclone
easily upgraded
reliable
quick field strip
looks cool
flatline capable

cons:
a bit heavy and long
you'll need to play with the trigger a bit

Originally posted by <span =bold>plax_are_meth

plax_are_meth wrote:

gas hog
if one paintball accidentaly breaks in cyclone, the cyclone turns into a paint blender (chops all ur paint)
overpriced
got a weird asa

its not actually a gas hog, that rumor kinda started when people found out that the cyclone was powered by co2
i havent had a chop yet
when you consider the price that you'd need to pay for a hopper to keep up with another guns rof then it all kind of equals out
i do agree with you on this point

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A-5
E-grip
32º W.B.
DOP x-chamb.
psycho bal. 2x trig
polished internals
B.L. 1.2k psi gauge
ST grip adapter
32º bottomline

Posted By: plax_are_meth
Date Posted: 08 August 2004 at 1:51pm

what i ment by chop is not that the cyclone chops paint, but if a paintball breaks in the hopper it like...clogs the cyclone turning it into a paint blender. its is a really ugly mess, ur lucky for that to never happen to u.

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Posted By: rave5910
Date Posted: 08 August 2004 at 1:56pm

i dont think ive ever actually heard of that happening, at least not from someone with an a-5

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A-5
E-grip
32º W.B.
DOP x-chamb.
psycho bal. 2x trig
polished internals
B.L. 1.2k psi gauge
ST grip adapter
32º bottomline

Posted By: A-5 bunkerking
Date Posted: 08 August 2004 at 2:46pm

it happened to me once, but i was using my friends pod cause i was all out of paint. he used some BE brand.

doenst happen often.

and if you buy an e-99 over an a-5. please tell me, so i can laugh at you.

really really, realy hard.

Posted By: a5freak
Date Posted: 08 August 2004 at 3:36pm

I don't really see what would be funny about me buying an a-5 or

e-99 because the are good starter to intermediate guns, and i'm intermediate so that would do good w/o spending $600-$700.

Posted By: Insomnia_CJ
Date Posted: 08 August 2004 at 3:45pm

I agree w/ whoever said to get the e-99 over the A-5.

E-99 - faster, lighter, better looking, shorter trigger pull, just as durable

A-5 - bigger, bulky, heavy, can't keep up

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Posted By: ncbbh88
Date Posted: 08 August 2004 at 3:53pm

only bad thing about the A-5 is air usage if you have every thing in rite and oiled well you will never break a ball in the cyclone and it dosent become a paint blender i had 2 paintballs fuzed together (bad grade paint) and the cyclone froze up its a failsafe if it gets too much resistance it frezes i love my A-5 had a spyder and will never go back but dont get me wrong the spyder is a good gun too just not stock

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Posted By: plax_are_meth
Date Posted: 08 August 2004 at 3:53pm

i said to get the e99 over the A5!!! woo, finnaly another suppurter (sp?). by the way, all u spyder haters out their do a research on the spyder em1.<----can beat up ne modded out tippy gun

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Posted By: The Ho
Date Posted: 08 August 2004 at 4:04pm

the a5 is a way better gun. all spyders have a bad reputation. the a5 can be a beast if you have the right stuff on it. it is still a cool gun when it is stock.

A5!!!

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Posted By: THE SQUID
Date Posted: 08 August 2004 at 4:22pm

an a5 will kill the other gun you want. tippmanns are alot better than spyders.

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Posted By: plax_are_meth
Date Posted: 08 August 2004 at 4:46pm

no they are NOT. but im not gonna go there and kill this thread with stupid arguments. remember, this is a tippy forum so most questions regarding spyders and tippys are more likly gonna be biased towards tippys.

the ho: the bad reputation of spyders breaking came from the old days of the elite and compact. check out reviews for newer spyders and none mention their spyders breaking.

the squid: research the spyder em1. the A5 couldnt even touch it with a 10 foot pole.

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Posted By: a5freak
Date Posted: 08 August 2004 at 5:27pm

I already know that the cheapest, reliable guns are spyders and tippys where you aren't spending a fortune. I'd pretty much go either way and have heard good and bad things about tippys and spyders here so far.

Posted By: The Ho
Date Posted: 08 August 2004 at 6:21pm

what have you heard bad about tippmanns?

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Posted By: a5freak
Date Posted: 08 August 2004 at 6:40pm

I didn't mean to say tippmanns in general, but a-5's because some people say that they use more air than other guns.

Posted By: The Ho
Date Posted: 08 August 2004 at 7:29pm

the cyclone uses excess gas i think. it might use a tiny bit more gas but not alot.

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Posted By: a5freak
Date Posted: 08 August 2004 at 7:47pm

okay

Posted By: PaintbalSoldier
Date Posted: 09 August 2004 at 10:49am

Good:

You dont need an electrtonic hopper.

Nice and durable, tough like the 98.

Accesories are cheaper.

Cyclone Feed.

Bad:

Gas Hog

Paintballs get stuck in the barrel that comes with the gun.

Hopper is big and noticeable.

Other than that, I would reccomend the A-5 to someone who has been playing a while. A newer player should go with a Tippmann 98 Custom.

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Posted By: kuhndog599
Date Posted: 23 December 2004 at 10:58am

plax_are_meth wrote:

yes. the basics between the rodeo (which i have) and the e99 avant (which i want)

rodeo specs:

mechanical
light trigger pull but it still alot of pull
has an ok built in reg/expansion chamber with a gauge that ACTUALLY works
stock barrel is decent...but u should still buy a new one.
the vertical adapter where the regualtor screws in has different threading so if u want to buy a new regulator (palmers male is awesome) u got to buy a new vertical adaptor. but the stock reg is good too. rare occasions does it spike velocity.
it is one of the spyders that dont break
the beavertail is sharp as poo. take it off right away. its only held by one screw.
of course the rodeo is cool looking especially if u get in in matte black

e99 avant

electric
got the 4 modes of fire-semi, 3 burst, 6 burst, full auto
really light and small trigger pull
finally a spyder that has a low rise feed neck. but its plastic so be careful
doesnt come with a reg but it has a regular vertical adaptor so u can just buy a reg and put it on.
stock barrel is ok
very popular and works smoothly
if u put a tigershark bolt in it and a titanium striker u hardly feel any kick

im helpful when it comes to spyders.<----best guns ever. woot.

i have the e99 and it only has semi 3 burst and full

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model 98 - homemade handguard
solid stock - opsgear mag
polished internals
homemade sling - paintjob
operator barrel
progressive barrel
opsgear mag - stock

Posted By: A5 dude15
Date Posted: 23 December 2004 at 1:09pm

plax_are_meth wrote:

good :

fast shooting
durable

bad :

gas hog
if one paintball accidentaly breaks in cyclone, the cyclone turns into a paint blender (chops all ur paint)
overpriced
got a weird asa

thats pretty much it. in reference to ur poll, get the e99. pm me for why the E99 can beat up the A5

its not that big of a gas hog, only about 50-75 less shots than normal, deal with it, gas dont cost that much anyway. ive shot over 10,000 paintballs with it and ive never broken a ball in the cyclone, its not over priced, its well worth the money in every way and is by far the best tippmann. and in my opinion, you can upgrade them to be better than the 98's....higher rate of fire, auto for half the price....etc. A wierd ASA??????i dont see how its weird, and if it was who cares?, it doesnt affect performance. the A5 is an excellent marker, and i highly recomend buying it. you will never have a complaint.

Posted By: evil_fingers
Date Posted: 23 December 2004 at 1:13pm

You must be bored and do you realize that this thread is really old and the questions has been answered.

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Posted By: A5 dude15
Date Posted: 23 December 2004 at 1:14pm

PaintbalSoldier wrote:

Good:

You dont need an electrtonic hopper.

Nice and durable, tough like the 98.

Accesories are cheaper.

Cyclone Feed.

Bad:

Gas Hog

Paintballs get stuck in the barrel that comes with the gun.

Hopper is big and noticeable.

Other than that, I would reccomend the A-5 to someone who has been playing a while. A newer player should go with a Tippmann 98 Custom.

if your paintballs are getting stuck, thats your falt for buying big bore paint when you should have got medium, this rule applys for all barrels. the hopper is actually smaller than other hoppers it doesnt even hold 200 paintballs, it holds about 180 and the other 20 are in the cyclone feed system, so it still holds 200 paintballs. the hopper is actually down lower than other guns with vertical feed,<they stand out as a big target.

Posted By: A5 dude15
Date Posted: 23 December 2004 at 1:17pm

plax_are_meth wrote:

what i ment by chop is not that the cyclone chops paint, but if a paintball breaks in the hopper it like...clogs the cyclone turning it into a paint blender. its is a really ugly mess, ur lucky for that to never happen to u.

i think you have no clue what you are talkin about and have never owned a A5 or used one it sounds like

Posted By: A5 dude15
Date Posted: 23 December 2004 at 1:30pm

Insomnia_CJ wrote:

I agree w/ whoever said to get the e-99 over the A-5.

E-99 - faster, lighter, better looking, shorter trigger pull, just as durable

A-5 - bigger, bulky, heavy, can't keep up

spyders are for begginers you said you were intermediate didnt you?, the A5 is faster than the e-99(the e-99 shoots 14bps the A5 shoots up to 16bps with a $25 adjustable trigger). it probably weighs half a pound more than a spyder...like you could notice and if it would affect your performance???dont think so, a $25 adjustable trigger tankes care of trigger pull and rate of fire......cant keep up?????

dont let these people leed you to believe that kingamn makes better guns than tippmann because there probably on the pipe.

other cons would be having to buy an electric hopper that can keep up with 14bps(about $60), the A5 dont need an expensive hopper, only the $12 one that comes with it.

And when someone says that the e-99 looks better, keep in mind that that is an opinion, im giving you facts here.

Posted By: A5 dude15
Date Posted: 23 December 2004 at 1:32pm

evil_fingers wrote:

You must be bored and do you realize that this thread is really old and the questions has been answered.

o....i feel really stupid...well atleast i could clear up any existing questions on the A5 that anyone may have.

Posted By: shady850
Date Posted: 23 December 2004 at 2:25pm

lets see that spyder against a a-5 and see which one wins, the spyder is a bad gun plus u need to buy a electric hopper inorder for it to do any good