a rant that has built up inside me
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Topic: a rant that has built up inside me
Posted By: tvthemesamurai
Subject: a rant that has built up inside me
Date Posted: 10 August 2004 at 11:17pm
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i went to sam goodys by my self for a velvet revovler cd and they carded me and i had to go get my dad and it dawned on me if i am able to go and get a cd without assitant or a ride (just past the drivers test 2 days earlier) i should be able to handle listening to qoute "bad words" and it sad it was explict lyrics how is to say the board who decide this what words are excplict a board of up tight people can control what i do without knowing how mature i am i am tired of picking up slack for immature people who say and do stuff they see in the media
i know litle kids should here that but should not be suffering for bad parenting of parent who dont keep track of there kids or teach them bad from good ------------- MY gallery: http://goodpicsofmarker.mypicgallery.com - http://goodpicsofmarker.mypicgallery.com 
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Posted By: Enos Shenk
Date Posted: 10 August 2004 at 11:23pm
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So buy it from a different music store that doesnt card for ratings... Try small local stores, not giant impersonal corporate crap-marts. ------------- 
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Posted By: Semper Durus
Date Posted: 10 August 2004 at 11:29pm
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Took the words out of my mouth... ------------- I don't have a sig anymore 
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Enos Shenk wrote:Posted By: :ShockeR_ratm:
Date Posted: 10 August 2004 at 11:32pm
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To get off topic here... I also hate how stores such as Walmart that forbid albums with explicit content...I mean editing for a radio is one thing to pass regulations but i think taking an artists album and "cleaning it up" is a violation of the artists original statement...i think its just greed to clean up an album and sell it out as to reach more listeners...but i like how you can go to the movies section and buy an R rated movie with nudity, violance, and profanity in it but across the aisle you can't buy an album because it says "the f word"...if yer going to be a moral watch-dog, at least have some consistancy...am i right? ------------- 
Nobody ever suspects the fun police! 
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Posted By: Lawless
Date Posted: 10 August 2004 at 11:33pm
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Hey! Fake I.D. ------------- Name: Paul R. Warman II Location: The Boonies, MI Phone Number: (989)666-XXXX |
Posted By: tvthemesamurai
Date Posted: 10 August 2004 at 11:35pm
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well there is no other store in the area aka hick ville usa ------------- MY gallery: http://goodpicsofmarker.mypicgallery.com - http://goodpicsofmarker.mypicgallery.com
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Posted By: tvthemesamurai
Date Posted: 10 August 2004 at 11:36pm
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i think if u sell it and make omoney off it u cant change it ------------- MY gallery: http://goodpicsofmarker.mypicgallery.com - http://goodpicsofmarker.mypicgallery.com
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Posted By: Lawless
Date Posted: 10 August 2004 at 11:36pm
Hey! I don't know where you're from and what laws are there, but if you lived here in Michigan then no, you wouldn't be right. Here, you have to be 17 to buy "PA'd" cd's and to buy "R" rated movies...as well as in order to get into "R" rated movies at theaters.
------------- Name: Paul R. Warman II Location: The Boonies, MI Phone Number: (989)666-XXXX |
Posted By: woodsballer87
Date Posted: 10 August 2004 at 11:37pm
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just go to Best Buy or Curcuit City....they dont care, you could be 8 and want to buy (insert any rap album) and they dont care. EDIT: i posted to slow and now see your in the middle of "no where"...sucks to be you. ------------- 
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Posted By: :ShockeR_ratm:
Date Posted: 10 August 2004 at 11:39pm
No...You missed the point of my rant...I'm saying Walmart does not sell cds with "explicit" lyrics...I'm not talking about age...You can have a movie with sex and profanity in it...but not an album that says "the f word" -------------
Nobody ever suspects the fun police!
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Posted By: Lawless
Date Posted: 10 August 2004 at 11:41pm
Hey! Yeah...I see what you mean now. My bad....just need a lil nap then I'll be able to comprehend better, lol. ------------- Name: Paul R. Warman II Location: The Boonies, MI Phone Number: (989)666-XXXX |
Posted By: SilentStealth67
Date Posted: 11 August 2004 at 12:25am
kinda reminds me of income taxes ------------- 
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Posted By: Benjichang
Date Posted: 11 August 2004 at 12:29am
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...This is why people pirate music online. If they can't buy it, they'll just get it for free online. The music industry is just hurting itself more. -------------  irc.esper.net #paintball |
Posted By: Hades
Date Posted: 11 August 2004 at 12:31am
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Make your own music with pots and pans. ------------- 
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Posted By: meteora
Date Posted: 11 August 2004 at 1:06am
you are very right, and it was walmart too, they have movies with crap 10 times worse than in any cd yet they dont make a clean version of the movie....weird ------------- http://imageshack.us"> 
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Posted By: meteora
Date Posted: 11 August 2004 at 1:09am
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is that what you do hades? ------------- http://imageshack.us">
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Posted By: Sammy
Date Posted: 11 August 2004 at 1:38am
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And thats why theres Kazaa lite and WInmx. I didnt even know people still bought cds, sheesh. But your right, its just a group of people who decide what is okay for people and what isnt, kinda stupid. ------------- 
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Posted By: NotDaveEllis
Date Posted: 11 August 2004 at 2:52am
kzaz lite and winmx esh 4 teh nubs bt 4 lyfe hxc KORE |
Posted By: Koolit32
Date Posted: 11 August 2004 at 5:31am
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Then quit looking like a little kiddy and they won't card you, I've
bought Kill Bill and stuff at walmart without being carded. It must be
my manly sexyness, or my sexy manliness. A wise man once said: "kzaz lite and winmx esh 4 teh nubs bt 4 lyfe hxc KORE" |
Posted By: rave5910
Date Posted: 11 August 2004 at 7:06am
 at wal-mart you cant buy music with
swearing in it but you can buy movies and watch the people do it.... i
think its because in movies they show you when its appropriate to swear
(i.e.- when your about to die, when you break something, when your
about to kill the villian, when you wreck your dads car, etc, etc) but
in music they swear while singing which is unacceptable------------- 
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Posted By: sort
Date Posted: 11 August 2004 at 7:17am
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Well folks, you can thank Tipper Gore and the PMRC (Parental Music Resource Center) for trampling on your rights to listen to whatever you want....heh, I can remember when Prince (ya know, that Purple Rain freak) was a big deal for making the song "Darling Nikki"....sorry, due to present constraints, I can't type the lyrics here, or provide a direct link....so you're going to have to use a search engine to find it....but considering what is being listened to now versus ten years ago, it's fairly tame stuff, imo. Have a Tippmann Day. ------------- Revelations 6:8--It's not revenge, it's Punishment. |
Posted By: S\/\/4T-L()G4N
Date Posted: 11 August 2004 at 8:02am
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Speaking of inconsistancies...
At wal-mart, I bought a box of shotgun shells no questions asked. I tried to buy .22 bullets, and they wigged out on me. They are like...."BUT YOU CAN USE THOSE IN A HANDGUN!" I am 16. ------------- 
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Posted By: SandMan
Date Posted: 11 August 2004 at 9:55am
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The first concept you guys are missing here is that the world does not revolve around you. It doesn't even revolve around your age group. The people making the real decisions out there generally think you're undisciplined, pimply little people with no clue what life is about yet.
WalMart does not exist to sell you what you want to buy. They exist as a company to sell whatever the heck they want to sell within the boundaries of the law. They have no obligation to please you personally. If you don't like it, don't go there. Period. How about spending less time whining and more time proactively confronting your problems? Mommy and daddy won't be there to bail you out forever. ------------- Real Men Love Cheeses |
Posted By: SandMan
Date Posted: 11 August 2004 at 9:56am
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Oh... And... WalMart is required by Federal law to make sure you're 21 if you're purchasing handgun ammo. If you have a problem with that, write your local Senator. It's out of WalMart's hands. ------------- Real Men Love Cheeses |
Posted By: tvthemesamurai
Date Posted: 11 August 2004 at 9:57am
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well .22 handguns are easyier to hide that a 12 gauge it depends what state u live in there are some who band handguns or all guns ------------- MY gallery: http://goodpicsofmarker.mypicgallery.com - http://goodpicsofmarker.mypicgallery.com
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Posted By: Clark Kent
Date Posted: 11 August 2004 at 9:57am
| Sandman + teenagers = PWNED |
Posted By: tvthemesamurai
Date Posted: 11 August 2004 at 10:05am
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im just saying is why must there be a group of people off in new england somewhere, who are not contected with a goverment of anykind , decied what is apporiate and not ------------- MY gallery: http://goodpicsofmarker.mypicgallery.com - http://goodpicsofmarker.mypicgallery.com
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Posted By: SandMan
Date Posted: 11 August 2004 at 10:12am
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Everything you've been talking about is business related. Businesses exist to make money and they do what they think is best toward that end.
How they formulate and apply corporate policy is unique from company to company and is, frankly, none of your concern. Your one option is to go there or not. ------------- Real Men Love Cheeses |
Posted By: Hades
Date Posted: 11 August 2004 at 10:13am
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Posted By: tvthemesamurai
Date Posted: 11 August 2004 at 10:15am
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hey hades what happen to the britney sig ive been gone and must of missed it ------------- MY gallery: http://goodpicsofmarker.mypicgallery.com - http://goodpicsofmarker.mypicgallery.com
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Posted By: SandMan
Date Posted: 11 August 2004 at 10:51am
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Hehe... Well, first, I jacked it up just to mess with him. He never put it back after that. ------------- Real Men Love Cheeses |
Posted By: VisionIMP
Date Posted: 11 August 2004 at 10:55am
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I think this whole idea of censorship in this country sucks. Its stupid and pointless. I dont know what people are trying to hide their kids from cause you know when they get older they kids are gonna go on r rated movie binges and swear at everything. Sooner or later the kids are gonna hear the words and see the stuff, might as well get them when they are younger explain to them what its all about then we wont have soo many problems in the world. Just my two cents. ------------- 
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Posted By: †Sniper†
Date Posted: 11 August 2004 at 10:56am
| the new one is sexier |
Posted By: Hades
Date Posted: 11 August 2004 at 10:57am
I still have the file hosted. I just have so much material to use and make more all the time. I am sure at some point she will be back up. I was thinking of making a lindsay lohan one, just because there is a large demand for her as well. I just havent had the time lately. -------------
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Posted By: :ShockeR_ratm:
Date Posted: 11 August 2004 at 11:01am
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To SandMan
I agree with you having to be old enough to purchase the album or go to an R rated movie...That's just moraly right....but the point of my response was that Walmart shows little consistancy...They won't allow albums with explicit content but they allow R rated movies... My opinion is that I think it is greed to redo someones entire album just so you could sell it off to a bigger audience... That's my feelings and I respect yours and that is why I do not shop or support Walmart.
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Nobody ever suspects the fun police!
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Posted By: SandMan
Date Posted: 11 August 2004 at 11:07am
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They don't redo the entire album. They just splice in new words where the old words aren't acceptable.
It's a political stance WalMart is making and they're free to make it. Ultimately, their opinions on what's good for their company are based on a lot more information than yours are. So it's really silly to attack their stance since you're only seeing the surface 1% of what's going on. ------------- Real Men Love Cheeses |
Posted By: :ShockeR_ratm:
Date Posted: 11 August 2004 at 11:18am
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How much more good can it do for the company rather than make them more money? And they don't just splice words in...They take a lot of words out and it's not like one can't figure out what word would have beeen in there... I understand yer agrument and you are taking it more as of a bussinessman that of how I'm looking at it -------------
Nobody ever suspects the fun police!
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Posted By: †Sniper†
Date Posted: 11 August 2004 at 11:20am
| I rented an R movie last night and I'm only 16...uh oh... |
Posted By: youm0nt
Date Posted: 11 August 2004 at 11:23am
what do you mean by carded?  i have no experience buying music within the last 6-7 years.
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Posted By: SandMan
Date Posted: 11 August 2004 at 11:26am
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Well... It is a business, so it has to be looked at as such. They have to worry about public image as well as sales and they've decided, based on all factors, that they should not carry albums with explicit lyrics. They know the kids can get them elsewhere, but they don't want WalMart to be known as the place where kids buy that kind of music.
You have to understand that WalMart was founded in Arkansas by a capitalist conservative named Sam Walton. Thus, the public image of WalMart is conservative and "family oriented" from its Southern roots. WalMart would probably make more money if they sold whatever people wanted to buy, but there's a lot more to it than that. There are a thousand factors they have to consider. The entire point is... Who cares? They're doing what they think is best and I don't think you have nearly enough information to question it. Perhaps the fact that you don't understand it is based on your ignorance of the facts and details surrounding the scenario instead of any bad behavior on their part. ------------- Real Men Love Cheeses |
Posted By: †Sniper†
Date Posted: 11 August 2004 at 11:26am
they ask you for I.D. |
Posted By: SandMan
Date Posted: 11 August 2004 at 11:28am
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Oh, and... I do have experience mixing music and I know for a fact the end product is nothing more than a jumble of the best pieces from endless hours of studio work; At least in most cases.
It's easy enough to take their digital master copies and remix it with different lyrics. Literally, no sweat. ------------- Real Men Love Cheeses |
Posted By: tvthemesamurai
Date Posted: 11 August 2004 at 12:00pm
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sandman plus teenage gurls equals court order ------------- MY gallery: http://goodpicsofmarker.mypicgallery.com - http://goodpicsofmarker.mypicgallery.com
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Posted By: Enos Shenk
Date Posted: 11 August 2004 at 12:42pm
Or it could just be the fact that wally world is run by nazis. I havent given walmart a single dollar for 5 years. I refuse to shop at a store that forces bands to make a censored "wal mart safe" version of their cd. -------------
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Posted By: Glassjaw
Date Posted: 11 August 2004 at 12:58pm
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the country is too sensitised. this is why things like this are
done. this is why "curse" words are frowned uppon. this is
why when a white person calls a black person the "N" word its a hanus
crime in ones opinion. (side note, im not racists. i have
many friends of diferent nationalities) The country is so over
sensitised, this is why kids arent aloud to buy CD's or other formats
of music with cursewords in them. Now i believe kids should have
freedom to an extent. I think if they are mature enough they
should be aloud to do what they want. They should be aloud to buy
a cd which drops the "F Bomb" 50 times if they wanted. On the
other hand, without a parents concent (to a certain age, i mean im 13
and i do things my parents would never think of...no crimes though)
kids should now be aloud to go see some R rated movie. i think
this is fine and all, until they reach the age of 12-13. When
they get this old they realize that there is more to life than sitting
home all day and they need to become more mature/responsible. If
they take on the responsibility for themselves and their actions they
should be alowd more privladges. Now it would be ahrd to tell a
mature kid from an immature...but sometimes you can tell. Anyway,
Artists use "Curse words" or other words such as that to get across
emotion and feeling and a point. I dont see how that is so
wrong. I dont see how trying to prove a point is so wrong.
Now there is a time when cursewords should be used and shouldnt.
I for a fact, depending on my mood, curse as much or as little as i
choose. I dont go flip out on someone, but i dont sit here
twidling my thumbs. If an artists decides to drop the "F Bomb" a
few times on his album, i say let him. If you edit out words, it
destroys the artists original idea and emotion of the cd. But
cursing can be over done. If the artists drops the "F bomb" 3000
times in one song....than that is too much. That serves no
purpose. As my reading teacher last year said- "Curse words arent nescessarily bad. But they have a specific time and place to be used." ------------- |
Posted By: Clark Kent
Date Posted: 11 August 2004 at 1:12pm
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Translation: "I should be 'aloud' to do more stuff."
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Posted By: SandMan
Date Posted: 11 August 2004 at 1:15pm
Yes, well, I don't view the world as quite that dramatic. They don't force anyone to do anything. The record labels take the initiative to release alternate versions because WalMart is the most powerful retailer on earth and they don't want to lose sales. ------------- Real Men Love Cheeses |
Posted By: Glassjaw
Date Posted: 11 August 2004 at 1:23pm
this is in no way stating i want to do more stuff. i have two jobs, i get out enough, i have many hobbies. i have a girlfriend who i greatly love, i play sports and enjoy going to the mall, movies and parties. yeah your right...i should be aloud to do more stuff. ------------- |
Posted By: Enos Shenk
Date Posted: 11 August 2004 at 1:24pm
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I understand that, but i view that as forcing. Walmart is like a 900
pound gorilla that sleeps wherever it wants to. They have way too much
money and way too much influence. Im not some stupid kid that thinks that wal-mart should be taken to court and de-nazified or something. Im not THAT naive. I just however choose not to give them any of my money. You said it yourself, thats the only real power consumers have over giant corporate pigs. -------------
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Posted By: :ShockeR_ratm:
Date Posted: 11 August 2004 at 1:26pm
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Are you referring to me? -------------
Nobody ever suspects the fun police!
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