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Topic: Smart Parts?
Posted By: Boydster
Subject: Smart Parts?
Date Posted: 12 August 2004 at 1:02am
What is Smart Parts doing that everyone hates? I must of missed it.

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Posted By: jeep 98 custom
Date Posted: 12 August 2004 at 1:07am
http://tippmann.com/players/forum/wwf77a/search.asp?KW=smart+parts&SM=1&SI=TC&FM=5&OB=1&Submit=Start+Search - http://tippmann.com/players/forum/wwf77a/search.asp?KW=smart +parts&SM=1&SI=TC&FM=5&OB=1&Submit=Start +Search

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Posted By: Glassjaw
Date Posted: 12 August 2004 at 1:07am
they are destroying the very sport we play because they are patenting everything because they cant make their own products that are good.  They are destroying the chance for small buisness.  They are the Paintball Nazis

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Posted By: Sammy
Date Posted: 12 August 2004 at 1:09am
They are, how should i say it. THE NAZIS. Also there are alot of topics already on this, so could you try the SEARCH feature.




http://www.tippmann.com/players/forum/wwf77a/search_form.asp?FID=5 - SEARCH LINK

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Posted By: paintballaluke
Date Posted: 12 August 2004 at 1:13am

They keep telling little kids to touch themselves at night.



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Posted By: Enos Shenk
Date Posted: 12 August 2004 at 1:23am
In the capitalist tradition of filling a need, Shenko Heavy Industries is introducing our newest product:



The optional "Kill the thread starter who cant be assed to do a search" add-on button will be in production next week.


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Posted By: .Ryan
Date Posted: 12 August 2004 at 1:26am
^lol^

Anyway, IMHO, they just picked a really bad time to enforce their patent rights.


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Posted By: Static-98
Date Posted: 12 August 2004 at 1:37am
Wasn't this asked 3 times in the past week?


Posted By: Enos Shenk
Date Posted: 12 August 2004 at 1:45am
Originally posted by Static-98 Static-98 wrote:

Wasn't this asked 3 times in the past week?


Yes

And about 30 times over the past month

And about 500 times over the past year.


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Posted By: maroon out
Date Posted: 12 August 2004 at 9:10am
Here's an interesting article that that Doc from Doc's Machine wrote on the subject...

http://www.vm68.com/stuff/smart_parts_is_evil.html - http://www.vm68.com/stuff/smart_parts_is_evil.html

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Posted By: chettacheez
Date Posted: 12 August 2004 at 9:54am
Originally posted by Enos Shenk Enos Shenk wrote:


In the capitalist tradition of filling a need, Shenko Heavy Industries is introducing our newest product:



The optional "Kill the thread starter who cant be assed to do a search" add-on button will be in production next week.



Hahahaha


Posted By: cv98custom
Date Posted: 12 August 2004 at 10:02am

Originally posted by chettacheez chettacheez wrote:

Originally posted by Enos Shenk Enos Shenk wrote:


In the capitalist tradition of filling a need, Shenko Heavy Industries is introducing our newest product:



The optional "Kill the thread starter who cant be assed to do a search" add-on button will be in production next week.



Hahahaha

ha good one enos



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Posted By: Boydster
Date Posted: 12 August 2004 at 10:24am

Sorry people. I thought I would be the only one who didn't know. I'll try the search. You can kill it Enos if you want.

EDIT: Oh geez... I just checked the search and there were a ton of them. I should try that thing out more often. I can see why people would be mad.



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Posted By: DracoPlasm
Date Posted: 12 August 2004 at 11:04am
I still dont hate smartparts their products are among the best you can find they make better barrels then anyone else awsome guns and all around great products until they sue me im gonna continue liking them

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Posted By: Clark Kent
Date Posted: 12 August 2004 at 11:07am

Originally posted by Glassjaw Glassjaw wrote:

they are destroying the very sport we play because they are patenting everything because they cant make their own products that are good.  They are destroying the chance for small buisness.  They are the Paintball Nazis

Actually, SP are just being good capitalists.

Y'all need to join Doc Nickel in a remedial capitalism class.

 



Posted By: Hades
Date Posted: 12 August 2004 at 11:41am
Originally posted by maroon out maroon out wrote:

Here's an interesting article that that Doc from Doc's Machine wrote on the subject...

http://www.vm68.com/stuff/smart_parts_is_evil.html - http://www.vm68.com/stuff/smart_parts_is_evil.html


Great Read!

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Posted By: Enos Shenk
Date Posted: 12 August 2004 at 11:55am
Originally posted by Clark Kent Clark Kent wrote:

Originally posted by Glassjaw Glassjaw wrote:

they are destroying the very sport we play because they are patenting everything because they cant make their own products that are good.  They are destroying the chance for small buisness.  They are the Paintball Nazis

Actually, SP are just being good capitalists.

Y'all need to join Doc Nickel in a remedial capitalism class.

 



I consider a patent that covers every single electropneumatic gun as not good capitalism, thats taking advantage of the system.


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Posted By: tyranny
Date Posted: 12 August 2004 at 12:06pm
ok well one thing i have to say about this is shouldn't glen palmer and people be happy cuz if y'all end up being right won't everyone start buying tippys and mags wiht hair triggers and typhoons and blazers and rtmags and enos's creations so why do you care any ways enos is it cuz it hurts your brother forumers


Posted By: Clark Kent
Date Posted: 12 August 2004 at 12:38pm

^^^^  What he said.

And Enos, you are free to consider it taking advantage.  But I would wager large amounts of money that in just a few years paintball will be flourishing like never before, and we will be able to point to SP litigation as an important part of that.

Besides, as a Tippy fan, I enjoy watching the electro guys fight each other...    :)

 

 



Posted By: Clark Kent
Date Posted: 12 August 2004 at 12:42pm

Originally posted by Hades Hades wrote:

Originally posted by maroon out maroon out wrote:

Here's an interesting article that that Doc from Doc's Machine wrote on the subject...

http://www.vm68.com/stuff/smart_parts_is_evil.html - http://www.vm68.com/stuff/smart_parts_is_evil.html


Great Read!

 

Not a good read.  An excellent demonstration of lack of understanding of market dynamics.  The US patent office is one of the keys to the strength of our economy.  A common feature among all crappy economies is that they don't protect intellectual property.  The US has strong protections; this leads to innovation.

SP isn't doing anything that hasn't been done a zillion times in other industries, and always, without fail, for the long-term benefit of consumers.  These lawsuits might be tough on competitors, but that's just too bad.  Consumers will benefit.  They always do.

 



Posted By: tyranny
Date Posted: 12 August 2004 at 1:29pm

^^^^^ yes i forgot to mention that when businesses compete like this the consumers always win cuz wihtout the whole patent thing there would porbly never be the deadly wind hair trigger

edit in doc's arcticle aren't most poeple who shoot timmy's and stuff sponsored and get it for free anyways



Posted By: Enos Shenk
Date Posted: 12 August 2004 at 2:31pm
I dont like electros either, so i dont have any personal problem with the situation. However seeing a company get issued a patent that claims EVERY SINGLE ELECTROPNEUMATIC GUN IN EXISTANCE is just flat out wrong.

The whole thing annoys me to no end, because absolutely nobody here i wager realizes that smart parts was issued another patent IN JUNE that covers exactly what i said above, every single electropneumatic. The whole trigger debate was blown completely out of proportion, when it didnt even cover what people said! But their new patent covers a solenoid valve that operates a ram which operates the bolt. Id like to see you find a full electropneumatic gun that doesnt contain a solenoid valve that operates a ram which is used to open and close the bolt.

I flat out dont WANT to see paintball get big. Nothing on teh face of the earth ever improves when it gets big. Skateboarding? Ruined. Video games? Look at all the crap games out now. "xtreme" sports? Commercialized to death. Paintball will be the exact same way, mark my words. Ive already predicted that if im not in business making paintball stuff, im not going to stick around much longer as a player because the sport is turning into a glitzy overhyped JOKE.

As for deadlywind hair trigger, do you realize hes patenting that too?

Just something to chew on...


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Posted By: 98God
Date Posted: 12 August 2004 at 2:34pm
i never really thought if it that way Enos...the part about it getting big and sucking....that kinda is true


Posted By: Enos Shenk
Date Posted: 12 August 2004 at 2:36pm
Well it all depends on your perspective. Im a woods player, and all ive been seeing for the past 4 years is a steady increase in speedball and flashy crap and arrogant players that think their $1300 chrome widget gun makes them the best thing since the pin valve.

If you like speedball and tourney and all that stuff, i guess its all for the better for you.


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Posted By: Clark Kent
Date Posted: 12 August 2004 at 2:39pm

Well, if you want paintball to be underground for the few an l33t, then this is perhaps a bad thing.

But me, I like cheaper paint, cheaper guns, BETTER guns, cooler gear, and easier access to more fields.  Those are all things that will come with the growth of paintball, and SP is helping it along.

As to deadlywind - who is patenting it?  The inventor, right?  I don't believe there is a SP connection there?

 



Posted By: 98God
Date Posted: 12 August 2004 at 2:40pm
no i prefer woods alot more than speed...and yeah one of my friends is one of those ignorant kids with the flashy crap that thinks his gun is better than mine so that makes him a better player


Posted By: tyranny
Date Posted: 12 August 2004 at 2:51pm
yea i guess im one of those people that likes speedball and tournies and want pball to get as big as possible and i really havne't see nskateboarding get worse but i don't like skateboarding so ......


Posted By: Gatyr
Date Posted: 12 August 2004 at 2:53pm

Ok, enough of that crap.

I have a viking. It might not be as flashy as some guns, but it cost lot, and is better than most guns on the market. I also consider myself to be a better than average paintball player. While there are deffinitely paople that are better than me, i am better than the majority of people that have played or play paintball.

So, i have an awsome marker, and i think i am a good player. Am i ignorant? Nope. Are the majority of people who are like me ignorant? Nope. Are they cocky or arrogant? maybe. Do you need to think that just because they shoot a $1000 marker and think they are good at the sport that they are ignorant? Nope. thats like them thinking that all woods players think that their tippmann w/ a flatline is the best thing to ever hit paintball, and thay they all want to be snipers.

 

Anyway, SP ate my bird, thats why i ahte them. 



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Posted By: 98God
Date Posted: 12 August 2004 at 3:03pm
no but there are people like that gatyr...


Posted By: :ShockeR_ratm:
Date Posted: 12 August 2004 at 3:13pm

I couldn't possibly think of getting a paintball gun that was over 800 dollars without being given it through a sponorship...But that's just me...My shocker suits me just fine...It shoots fast, never chops, and its light and accurate...and it's reliable...I do pretty good with my gun and I'm not cocky about anything...I had the money so I was able to afford a fairly expensive gun...for the majority of the people you are talking about are the younger crowd...im not saying all people below the age of 14 but most of them are spoiled and are able to get a dm4 from their parents...and then brag about it...it's just the way everything is...you can get a kid thats just starting to play hockey and his parents buy him top of the line equipment even though its not going to improve much of his game rather than the cheaper stuff at his skill level...

and as for SP...it's the same with everything else...it's life...paintball is growing more and more and youcan just imagine what paintball is going to be like within the next 5 years...there's nothing anyone can do about it...once the genereal public starts getting into it and it has greater exposure than it already does, companies such as smart parts start grabbing everything while they still can to make even more money...the earth revolves around money...i know it's bad but thats just the way things are now a days



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Posted By: Gatyr
Date Posted: 12 August 2004 at 3:31pm

Originally posted by 98God 98God wrote:

no but there are people like that gatyr...

Well, in the three years i hae been playing i havent met anyone like that...



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Posted By: 98God
Date Posted: 12 August 2004 at 3:32pm
your lucky then



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