i am a woods/sceneiro player but i though it would be kewl to see sceneiro guys go aginst speed players on a speed ball feild the speed guys could use there guns and the sceneiro guys could use there mil-sim guns, gernades and rpg's aginst bunkers.

I cant believe I am even posting in this. But obviously the speedballers would win because we play speedball. If we went out an played woodsball against woodsballers and went in our jerseys and what not we would lose.

This is liek saying lets get olympic sprinters and olympic marathon runners together and have them do a 100 meter sprint. Obviousl the sprinters would win. But if it was a marathon obviously the marathon runners would win. Even though they are both running they are both very different.

It wouldn't be fair for the scenario guys, with their big bulky milsim guns sticking out of the bunker lol.

It would be kind of cool to see scenario guy vs speedballers both on in a woods course and in a speedball course though.

Large Unit wrote: It wouldn't be fair for the scenario guys, with their big bulky milsim guns sticking out of the bunker lol. It would be kind of cool to see scenario guy vs speedballers both on in a woods course and in a speedball course though.

Ive seen woodsball (scenario) players on a speedball field...infact I was one out 10 players (5 woodsballers 5 speedballers), the other side was mainly compromised of speedball players and a couple of woodsball players, a total of 20 players....at the very end, I was the last one and I had to go up against 5 remaining from the other team....I couldve surrendered but, the lil bugger that came runnin around the bunker decided to shoot me anyway...and hes lucky, I ran out of ammo.

kwkmrorange wrote: I cant believe I am even posting in this. But obviously the speedballers would win because we play speedball. If we went out an played woodsball against woodsballers and went in our jerseys and what not we would lose. This is liek saying lets get olympic sprinters and olympic marathon runners together and have them do a 100 meter sprint. Obviousl the sprinters would win. But if it was a marathon obviously the marathon runners would win. Even though they are both running they are both very different.

that's the smartest thing I think I've ever heard someone say about this subject.

ncbbh88 wrote: scenario guys would win at that i guarantee their mil sim guns may be slower but the longer barrels and in my case flatline would just rip the speedballers apart from a distance   and common one good grenade out of a 203 at the start of a game would take out the what the hell are whole speedball team lol

you talking about...
 1. longer barrels do nothing
 2. speedball courses are small, so flatline is pointless
 3. the grenades dont cover that big of an area, the whole team doesnt hide behind one bunker.

scenario players would get owned.

you talking about...
 1. longer barrels do nothing --- i have a 12 and 16inch dye boomstick for my a-5 and the 16 is more accurate than the 12 (may be only in my case)
 2. speedball courses are small, so flatline is pointless---- no arc allows better breaks (but i guess thats just paint dependent)
 3. the grenades dont cover that big of an area, the whole team doesnt hide behind one bunker.-----they all start at one spot

scenario players would get owned.

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ive gone against speedballers on a speedball field and killed them because they cant hit me from their distance where as i can keep them pinned at 150+ feet

grenades can clear out behind bunkers so a man dosent have to and can create areas for you to run through because u know they are clear

ncbbh88 wrote: you talking about...  1. longer barrels do nothing --- i have a 12 and 16inch dye boomstick for my a-5 and the 16 is more accurate than the 12 (may be only in my case)  2. speedball courses are small, so flatline is pointless---- no arc allows better breaks (but i guess thats just paint dependent)  3. the grenades dont cover that big of an area, the whole team doesnt hide behind one bunker.-----they all start at one spot scenario players would get owned.

ive gone against speedballers on a speedball field and killed them because they cant hit me from their distance where as i can keep them pinned at 150+ feet

grenades can clear out behind bunkers so a man dosent have to and can create areas for you to run through because u know they are clear

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The scenario players would get bunkered beyond belief. Having to turn around with their three foot long gun to protect themselves. Speedball would win...

...who cares?

im sure one game speedballas would win, next game the wookies would win...and so on

most likely the speed ballers would win, but i'm a woodsballer and i took out a whole team yesterday once my other speedball team mates were out. but the truth is that speed ballers would probably win.  they would probably loose if the woodsballers had gradades though. but without them we would probably loose.  but back on out court (the woods) we would probably win. one thing I have noticed was when i play woods ball with speedballers most of them give themselves away to fast and dont wait for a good shot, like hunting. 

                            but a longer barrel would be better than a short one for speedball because you could push the baryllel safely against the bunker and shoot whithout exposing yourself to much and with a short baryllel you would have a hard time doing that.

Y WOULD U WANT TO C THAT THE WOODS SCENARIO PLAYERS WOULD GET THERE A**ES WHOOPED BECAUSE SPEEDBALL PLAYERS NP HOW TO SLING IT AND THERE GUNS ARE FASTER AND ACCURATE.

I AM A SPEEDBALL/SCENARIO PLAYER I PREFER SPEEDBALL FOR ADRINALINE AND SCENARIO JUS TO WASTE SOME TIME AND HAVE FUN. I LIKE SPEEDBALL BETTR HONESTLY

Why are you screamin?

Woodsball players would win more on a woodsball field and speedballers would win more on a speedball field

I think they just call it 'THE FIELD'

And I'm mil-simming my gun today wit the last bit of my cash Im getting a remote and a scope I want to but I want to keep my money too so I can buy Halo 2 but I've got till christmas before I get my b0x so I should be good

PBallwarrior660 wrote: Y WOULD U WANT TO C THAT THE WOODS SCENARIO PLAYERS WOULD GET THERE A**ES WHOOPED BECAUSE SPEEDBALL PLAYERS NP HOW TO SLING IT AND THERE GUNS ARE FASTER AND ACCURATE. I AM A SPEEDBALL/SCENARIO PLAYER I PREFER SPEEDBALL FOR ADRINALINE AND SCENARIO JUS TO WASTE SOME TIME AND HAVE FUN. I LIKE SPEEDBALL BETTR HONESTLY

scenario guns can be fast and acurate too no speedball gun can be more acurate than any woodsball gun can be plus if u dont get an adrenalin rush from scenario its time to go to a better one

Me and some buddies that love paintball decided to make a 3 man team.... I am the only one without a Tippmann but the one has a 98C and the other has an A5.... I have a stock Spyder Victor ($50 at **edited**s) and we go up against a team of Angels and cocker's all the time.  We'll switch back and forth.... sometime we'll go the PB USA in Ft. Wayne, IN and play some speedball with them.... and sometimes they come to our neighborhood and play in the woods.  It goes back and forth... but the one thing i can tell you, our skill levels increase so much playing against those guys. there is an Angel that shoots like some-odd 23 BPS and that just kicks our ass.... but we are much more accurate shots than them and their support fire.... it's not the fact that we have a home field advantage.... sometimes it helps, but we all do it for fun.... and that's what paintball is right?

- Godhand, Hammer, Mac.

I'm just thought of this cool game we played one time, it would be a great game for woodsballers and speedballers alike.  I forget what Nick called it, but there was this huge Hay field that was just a little more than waist high... there were 12 of us and we made 3 four-man teams. we went out into this field.... and just presumed to kick ass. there were a couple guys with fully auto guns that used a little technique i like to call "Spray and Pray." (speedballer style) Chris tagged some guys off with his Flatline (woodsballer style) and of course me and the other guys sniped cause they ganged up on us so we ended up taking out all 8 guys. but if you have a mix of speedballers and woodsballers.... try playing out in a Hay field... it's more fun than either combined... and if you want an adrenaline rush... how about 50 paintballs coming at your face?

Well the feild I go to is made up of mostly woods players and I go there with my team and some friends and we always own in the speedball and usaully will dominate in woods to most of the kids do not use very good technique when snap shooting or when moving from bunker to bunker were as I and my team practice this (or at least I know I do) often so my shapshooting still beats there laying down in the woods or on the speedball feild also in speedball angles are key and the same can be true for woods so I just use the same strategy and it works its all the same crap just a different pile

also what angel is it shooting 23 bps cause must be a really good one

On the speedball field, of course the speedballs will roll them. That's our enviornment, it's what we do. If you have a big heavy mil-sim, you can't move as fast, meaning when you do move you're exposed longer. And flatlines suck on speedball, you snap out with your gun turned a little and it curves like crazy. And if the guns are slow, I'm just gonna pound your bunker and move up and either my or my frontmen will bunker you. And a lot of the skills/tactics in woodsball just don't work in spedball. Crawling is pointless other than in the snake, so is camo and stealth.

I'm also a beleiver in the fact that there is no perfect "woods" gun. I know there's definantly guns designed for woods, like mil-sim, but that doesn't mean anything. Your fake clip and folding stock don't help you out really. I think a good speedball gun is the best woods gun, not a clunky mil-sim. The same reasons they rock speedball apply to when they're used in woods, they're small and light so you can move easy with them, they're a lot quieter than anything with a flatline that's for sure, and they can still dump paint if need be.

I think good speedballers would rock up in the woods. I'd bet on Infamous over the OMHW in the woods anyday. As soon as contact is made, woods starts turning into a speedball game. Advancing when you can, and getting in fire fights till the other guny's out and you can move. I personally have played woods games where we did a 7 man run though off the break just for fun cuz we don't like woods that much, and we did pretty good. Granted we all got out cuz it was suicide, but we suprised the heck outta them and rocked a bunch of em. Let our woodsballer team mates finish em up. And it's bull when people say ROF doesn't help in the woods, it may not be as important as in speedball, but it still is a big advantage. You can still pound a bunker and lane in close quarters, and I watched my friend's Shocker send about 100 balls into some brush real quick and hit the guy behind it just cuz so much paint's flying through it.

So in conclusion, woodsballers < speedballers. Flame away.

rednekk98 wrote: in my experiances, drops aren't wood-friendly. Sometimes there isn't cover that you can stand or crouch behind, that's why my drop comes off and standard ASA goes on.

Yet another reason why drops suck.

Ashran wrote: ncbbh88 wrote: scenario guys would win at that i guarantee their mil sim guns may be slower but the longer barrels and in my case flatline would just rip the speedballers apart from a distance   and common one good grenade out of a 203 at the start of a game would take out the whole speedball team lol YOU FOOL.  Half would get ripped up off the break, they wouldn't stand a chance. EDIT: I'll elaborate.  IT's their field, they know it all, they can shoot paint faster, they are faster, and have smaller targets. As for woods, It might be even  We could outshoot you guys, but hiding doesn help plenty.

how do you guns shoot faster?     how are your targets smaller?  and how are you faster?       woodsball guys can run too most of the guys i play with are on the tracke team with me and we all run the 100meter dash        dose thea make us ne slower than a speedballplayer?

jeep 98 custom wrote:  I'd bet on Infamous over the OMHW in the woods anyday.

That's a match i'd love to see,. because some overpaid professional sportsman will totally own someone like "oldsoldier" from OMHW, (Viet vet,. playing in the "woods" since he was 18,.FOR REAL!)  ::sarcasam::

jeep 98 custom wrote: As soon as contact is made, woods starts turning into a speedball game. .

Sorry,. no,. woods is it's own animal,. no confinement,. no bunkers to hide behind,.  not to mention cover and concealment,.

red_alert204 wrote: wow...... its comparing apples and organes there differnt games........

i completly agree

well im a woodsball player,speedball player,scenario player and its the gun u have or wat anybody could win! nobody could say speedball players would dominate or woodsball players would or scenario so i think we should just stop this monster before it gets 10 pages long!

ok i think this thread is a lot of bs but i will say it seriously depends,

this sounds like a regular day at my field we have a woods field taped off a little larger than a speed ball field but in no way large enough to be woods ball there is no brush and generally small hyperball tubes tires and plywood bunkers short trenches and a hill. we have a variety of speedball scenario and stock class players anyone that comes out on top is an all round player, not the speedballers not the woodsball players not the scenario players any all scenario/speedball team never wins against variety. so to answer the question passed 1 the woodsball players take point speedball give cover, stock class take the flanks and crawls and scenario players stand around and try to look cool.

the gun you use doesn’t make either kind of player it depends on the characteristics you play. There people with milsims can move suprisingly fast but then we always get rich kids with flashy speed ball guns that sit back and camp.

and this thread is not only stupid it is in the wrong section it's not an idea it's an arguement.

How's aboot a couple speedball forumers go up against a few scenario forumers.......

I started out playing woods and when I converted the hardest thing was to learn to come out of bunkers.....in woods, you usually have the room to bring half or more of your body out of a bunker......in speedball, no more than a gun, half a mask and two little fingers can come out of a bunker.....speedball is just as much staying tight in a bunker as it is making accurate shots.....I can't Imagine coming out of a bunker with a 2 1/2 foot marker.........many of you have also proven in your posts that a scenario player's win would not come out of accurate shooting......but lobbing pansy 'nades all over the place.....with a speedballer....it's just him/her and their gun....