I've read alot of stuff on this forum about the idea of a tippmann pistol, and I've heard all the nay-sayers claiming a pistol is pointless but there is one thing people seem to be forgetting about. The fact is most people who want a pistol aren't looking for a backup they are looking for a main gun to use when there low on paint, or short on cash or are playing a role in a scenario where a pistol would fit nicely. So what would be so wrong with tippmann making a pistol? The pistols out there even though some of them stink sell very well, and I think its a novel idea having a reliable pistol with bullet proof customer available to the masses. To borrow a phrase from someone else, Ustilago.

z-zero

Low on cash would throw the phantom idea out the window, for a nicely setup one your looking at what $200 plus?

How is what I described a backup pistol?Defining back up as gun your carrying along with you and your main gun for when your stuck between reloads or your other gun goes down?

Some people just want to take a decent pistol onto the field, is that to much to ask? Without paying $600+ for a squall or micro squall? I'm talking about people who want to play with solely a pistol, call it stockclass semi if you will. Why should the only decent choice be offered by Armotech or its affilates? I'm eagerly awaiting the return of the sidekick semi.

z-zero

z-zero wrote: Low on cash would throw the phantom idea out the window, for a nicely setup one your looking at what $200 plus? How is what I described a backup pistol?Defining back up as gun your carrying along with you and your main gun for when your stuck between reloads or your other gun goes down? Some people just want to take a decent pistol onto the field, is that to much to ask? Without paying $600+ for a squall or micro squall? I'm talking about people who want to play with solely a pistol, call it stockclass semi if you will. Why should the only decent choice be offered by Armotech or its affilates? I'm eagerly awaiting the return of the sidekick semi.   z-zero

If yer belly achin so much fer a new type of paintball pistol, why dont you jus create one fer yerself.

Ah yes just create one for myself, then I run into that money problem again and the lack of know how with machineing equipment, not to mention I don't have a machine shop handy. Sure I've got ideas but no resources.

Blue hopper knows exactly what I'm talking about, try concealing your A-5 or M-98 in a set of cammies while escorting your General. Besides pistols are loads of fun, especially if its a pistol only game of some sort.

I don't think its to much to ask for a decent pistol, I have been on this campaign if you will for a little over 2 years so forgive me if I seem a bit frustrated with the industry. Come on tippmann where ya at?!?!

z-zero

Enos Shenk wrote: Ive been working on something.

my god... I have to see this...

Anyway... If you want a pistol so bad, but you dont want to spen $150 on a Zeus, why don't you get a PGP? Thier getting cheap now - only about $90. Even less if their used... They are a lot like tippmanns (and cockroaches, for that matter): ugly, they just refuse to die, and their probibly most likely to survive a nuclear blast....

I'm really looking for something thats semi-auto, I have enough pistol sized pumps already. The PGP is a good choice though, at least the old one. If I wanted to go new in that situation I'd part with less bones and pick up a sidekick stock.

Enos Shenk, I would very much like to see new things and ideas hit the market, I have some ideas of my own but alas I lack resources. I hope you fare better then me.

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gangisHANS wrote:  Is it really so much to ask for a decent pistol? and better yet give it the tippmann backing? I've heard many rumors about a tippmann pistol, and I've been waiting for any type of verification. oh and evil_fingers, I am working on my own pistol design.

Here you go zero, why dont you take this guys example, hes designing one fer himself.

Good Luck in designing and making one gangisHans.

Just adding to the list of players thinking of making a pistol

Evil_fingers

I've thought plenty about making a pistol for myself, don't have the time or energy and rather be playing then sitting in the shop. But if you want me to design one "fer" myself I will and you can build it for me. If thats not to your liking stick it.  Are you just trying to be a dummy? Why are you so ignorant?

z-zero

HAHAHA, all is fair. They are not all the same, and price tag makes a big difference. If you think they are all the same you have some reading to do. Why should I settle if I don't have to? I'll wait until a pistol comes out that I'm satified with then I'll buy it, but until then I'll try to let as many companies know as possible about what I want to see in one. If even half of one of my suggestions make it into a production gun I'll be very pleased with my efforts.

But until then my quest continues.

If you don't have anything constructive to direct your energy to please stop posting in this thread, its about a tippmann pistol and what fellow tippmann owners would want to see in one.

z-zero

they have a point if you want to talk pistols then bring uop an old thread

I did a search on pistol and some other variations and read them all, and they were all dead and didn't talk about what I wanted to discuss anyway. But, such is life. You have all succesfully left a soar taste in my mouth for fellow tippy owners.

z-zero

Man I remeber way back when this forum was a good one to visit now its just a pot hole in the web. 2005 posts and havn't seen one decent thing come through my monitor thats been typed by you. All those posts in a period of 6 months at about 10 posts a day, someone needs to get a life, or a job...

z-zero

So I guess its a life you need then? Am I right or did you just walk into that insult wittingly? Say whatever you need to say to make yourself feel better, seem thats what your best at.

Laters,

z-zero

Touchy? I have given you more time and patience then I should have already. I didn't come here looking for answers, I came here looking for an intelligent conversation about paintball pistols. If I wanted inside info on something tippmann was working on you can bet that I would only use a "public" forum as a last resort to get info.

This thread has failed like the other pistol threads and will be lost in the tippmann archives not because I was touchy but becasue you were, from the beggining, ignorant. I am guilty of one thing, and thats looking here in this forum for an intelligent conversation. Of course I could be wrong because I'm not a teenager and don't know everything.

z-zero

OK, well said. My apologies to all.

One of the main reason I was looking at tippmann for a pistol was because they hold some patents on some good inline valve designs, and I think a good inline valve is a benefit to a pistol sized marker, no more of this 3 tube stuff. Scepter is working on an inline closed-bolt valve system but a pistol is a ways off for them at this point.

So what would you like to see in a tippmann pistol? I want the co2 and ammo in the grip, changable clip (integrated) and perhaps a realistic slide action. List some stuff you would want to see in one.

z-zero

How are u gonna fit an inline valve on a pistol? you can see in side a 98c or an a5 that the valve system(including front and rear bolts for semi auto) takes nearly all of the space in the shell. youre gonna have to at least have 2 "tubes" or else youre gonna end up with a pistol the same dimensions as a 98c.

If you dont care if its a semi auto then get a sl-68 II, thats about as short as an inline valve systen gets. and if you want a 12 gram then just get an adapter.

Since the topic has come up again , and hasn't been locked yet , I'll try this again .

Here's the pistol I want :

http://www.paintballstuff.com/index.html - http://www.paintballstuff.com/index.html

The Sidekick Semi is the one I mean . It's got just about every feature I want in a PB pistol .

They have been discontinued for a while now .

Perhaps Tippmann could help them with their manufacturing problems ?

Please ? Tippmann ? Are you listening ?

Alot of people including myself have been waiting for the re-release of the sidekick semi, I hope its soon, its an inline valve design as well. Very similar to the automag in operation. I'd buy one of those in a heart-beat if it didn't have the leaking problem, so when the new ones come out with the fix, guess what I'm going to do...

Tom at AGD also mentioned if he were to desgin a pistol it would have re-fillable pnuematic chamber and the clip would slide into the grip, but he also said it would cost like $1000. Similar to the pre-charged pneumatic air rifles I would assume. I'm almost sold on the pre-charged pneumatic idea, as long as you could get say 40-50 shots per fill and could fill it with a pump yourself. Of course the price is way out there for the pump or the concept pistol purposed by AGD.

The valve that supposedly could work in a pistol thats being developed now by scepter will be debuted in the 870 shotgun pump there making as well as the UZI and perhaps the sniper rifle they are working on. The uzi might be available by x-mas so we might be able to see it then. The uzi might fit into a pistol sorta role maybe...

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