Would this be considered cheating?
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Topic: Would this be considered cheating?
Posted By: X 303
Subject: Would this be considered cheating?
Date Posted: 17 August 2004 at 9:13pm
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My dad says he used to raise his gun to his shoulder (with the hopper just barely resting on top of it) and stand up in the middle of a firefight. Without saying anything, (out, hit, etc.) he'd walk right past the opposing team. Thinking he's out, they wouldn't shoot him, and he would get about ten feet past them and turn around and promptly shoot them all. Is this legal at most fields? ------------- A5 Flatline Car stock w/ built-in RVA Remote 20oz Co2 Leatherman Wave (for repairs) |
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Posted By: chronzak
Date Posted: 17 August 2004 at 9:26pm
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im sure there would be alot of debate and yelling each time this
happened, dont do it, youd be an ass if you did that and people wouldnt
like you by the way, if i get a strike for saying that, this forum is crazy |
Posted By: Notorious Bob
Date Posted: 17 August 2004 at 9:28pm
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It probably isnt legal now, you shouldn't risk it. With the way people act act games, you might get kicked out if they complain. |
Posted By: X 303
Date Posted: 17 August 2004 at 9:29pm
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yeah...
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Posted By: 2k4kev
Date Posted: 17 August 2004 at 9:30pm
I belive its legal, if the other team lets this happen there stupid, but if there smart they'll paint you up regardless. ------------- 
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chronzak wrote:Posted By: X 303
Date Posted: 17 August 2004 at 9:34pm
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while risking getting a penalty for overpainting... ------------- A5 Flatline Car stock w/ built-in RVA Remote 20oz Co2 Leatherman Wave (for repairs) |
Posted By: X 303
Date Posted: 17 August 2004 at 9:34pm
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I suppose I could ask a ref.
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Posted By: RaTfreak
Date Posted: 17 August 2004 at 9:43pm
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It's called a "Dead Mans Walk" It is legal in most events unless otherwise stated. The only time it isn't legal is if you say you're out, hit or whatever or put in your barrel plug.
One thing I like to do is pick up all your pods and hold them in your arms...if the other team yells that you don't have your barrel plug in say you can't because your hands are full (which is true) walk by and then shoot. The only time the other team gets mad is because they were gullable enough to let it happen. Usually they will light you up if you don't have your hand on your head or barrel plug in but it's a great move if you can get away with it. Go for it. ------------- Give me an inch, I'll give you a bruise. |
Posted By: Shub
Date Posted: 17 August 2004 at 10:12pm
| Yep, the Dead Man's Walk used to be a popular trick a few years back. I don't think it's illegal, but few people would fall for it nowadays, especially since a plug in the barrel is a sure sign that the player is out. |
Posted By: X 303
Date Posted: 17 August 2004 at 10:15pm
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Dead Man's Walk... "The only time the other team gets mad is because they were gullable enough to let it happen." ------------- A5 Flatline Car stock w/ built-in RVA Remote 20oz Co2 Leatherman Wave (for repairs) |
Posted By: X 303
Date Posted: 17 August 2004 at 10:18pm
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No one puts their plug in until after they've gotten off the feild anyways. ------------- A5 Flatline Car stock w/ built-in RVA Remote 20oz Co2 Leatherman Wave (for repairs) |
Posted By: whiteknight457
Date Posted: 17 August 2004 at 10:25pm
| at my field you dont plug ur barrel wen ur out so it would work on the lil rich 8 year olds with orracles. |
Posted By: X 303
Date Posted: 17 August 2004 at 10:29pm
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If I could make it LOOK like I'm out without technically doing anything that offically means I'm out I could probably get away with it at the place where I paintball. ------------- A5 Flatline Car stock w/ built-in RVA Remote 20oz Co2 Leatherman Wave (for repairs) |
Posted By: evil_fingers
Date Posted: 17 August 2004 at 10:30pm
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Ive read bout the Dead Man Walking trick in a book at Barnes & Nobles and I was wondering do people actually still use it? ------------- Do not steal....the government hates competition! 
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Posted By: Shub
Date Posted: 17 August 2004 at 10:32pm
I doubt it happens too often now. Too many people know about it now. As you said, it was published in a book, probably tales of the Dead Man's Walk all thru the internet as well. |
Posted By: evil_fingers
Date Posted: 17 August 2004 at 10:35pm
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Actually I found it by chance and I never heard bout it till last month. ------------- Do not steal....the government hates competition!
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Posted By: PlentifulBalls
Date Posted: 17 August 2004 at 10:43pm
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I am contimplating using it this Friday when I play. it's outlaw
though, and I am just playing with a bunch of people I know and
semi-know, so they would probably think it is funny. That or lite me up
after the game. :\ ------------- 
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Posted By: X 303
Date Posted: 17 August 2004 at 10:51pm
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lol ------------- A5 Flatline Car stock w/ built-in RVA Remote 20oz Co2 Leatherman Wave (for repairs) |
Posted By: Craig R. Mayer
Date Posted: 17 August 2004 at 11:09pm
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i'm going to use it today! they'll LOVE IT! HAHA! ------------- Craig R. Mayer |
Posted By: meteora
Date Posted: 17 August 2004 at 11:11pm
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in most fields he'd be covered in paint before he could walk 3 feet ------------- http://imageshack.us"> 
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Posted By: evil_fingers
Date Posted: 17 August 2004 at 11:14pm
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This is the actual book where I read bout the "Dead Man Walking" trick http://search.barnesandnoble.com/booksearch/isbnInquiry.asp?userid=FK1IC6t9yB&isbn=0809225492&itm=1 - http://search.barnesandnoble.com/booksearch/isbnInquiry.asp? userid=FK1IC6t9yB&isbn=0809225492&itm=1 ------------- Do not steal....the government hates competition!
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Posted By: tW!tcH
Date Posted: 17 August 2004 at 11:14pm
Dead mans walk  , do it if you want to have a dishonest victory you cant be proud of. And if you want everyoen to be gunning for you next game and not stop shooting you while you walk off the field.------------- Give me a chance, I'll give you a welt. |
Posted By: paintballman_13
Date Posted: 17 August 2004 at 11:43pm
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Posted By: Slothbutt
Date Posted: 18 August 2004 at 12:17am
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If it's done right I don't think it's cheating, stand up and walk down the field with your gun at your side and muddering like you screwed up but not claiming to be out in anyway. I was reffing a game and a guy did it. He walked all the way to the other sides last stand-up and shot the whole team out. But the downside is it leads to overshooting/shooting players walking off the field. ------------- http://img483.imageshack.us/img483/2688/3guns27ef.jpg - My Paintball Guns http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/2711/arand9mmak9.jpg - New "Toys" |
Posted By: One Eye Dead
Date Posted: 18 August 2004 at 12:46am
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Posted By: SatansEnemy
Date Posted: 18 August 2004 at 1:26am
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may i ask how that is dishonest? its not against any rules...maybe youve had that pulled on you before and you fell for it? first off just yell at him if hes hit...if he doesnt say anything blast away at him. |
Posted By: CIA356
Date Posted: 18 August 2004 at 2:22am
Its not dishonest it would be dishonest if you yelled HIT and then proceeded to shoot them. But really is it illegal fo a player to hold his marker on his shoulder. If the other team doesn't shoot him it's there fault. ------------- 
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Posted By: Enos Shenk
Date Posted: 18 August 2004 at 5:57am
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Its not cheating if you dont: Put in your barrel plug Call yourself out, or say hit or whatever terms you use Or put your gun over your head (this one varies) ------------- 
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Posted By: Belt #2
Date Posted: 18 August 2004 at 6:01am
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Meeh... I don't like it... I consider cheating... Or at least dishonest....
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Posted By: fdupnct
Date Posted: 18 August 2004 at 11:20am
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At the FOX 4 field in MA which I play at, they made a rule against the "Dead's Man Walk" because during one of their big games 1 person kept doing it and wiped out about half the opposing team. Oddly enough they still lost. ------------- http://ballbreakers.home.comcast.net/ - Team Ball-Breakers Amphibious Assault - 8/28 & 8/29 I am Swamp Thing |
Posted By: X 303
Date Posted: 18 August 2004 at 8:48pm
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I think that's the rule at the place I go to, put your gun over you head... That tactic would work well at the Bunker Hill field. If you start at the bottom of the hill, you have a severe tactical disadvantage: paintguns weren't made to shoot up very well, and the opposing team gets to rain paint on you, getting over the bunkers. BUT, there is only one path that leads from the bottom of the hill to the 'out' station to the top; it would be, "obvious", taht you're going to the station, then you climb to the top and rain paint on the people in the middle. ------------- A5 Flatline Car stock w/ built-in RVA Remote 20oz Co2 Leatherman Wave (for repairs) |
Posted By: RaTfreak
Date Posted: 18 August 2004 at 9:12pm
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A lot of tourney fields place the dead box on YOUR side of the field. This way if you are walking towards the opposite side of the field you're going in the wrong direction and will get ate up.
Like I said, it all depends on the field whether or not it's illegal. I have seen it used several times and usually it works. Most of the times I have seen it used was in tournies. I supposed that the majority of teams think that nobody would be stupid enough to use it now and don't pay attention. Their loss. If you want to be sneaky and not look like you're doing it then do like I posted before...fill your arms with pods or whatever and when people see you with no barrel plug they will assume that you couldn't put it in because of the arm load of pods you have. Walk by and drop the pods and fire away. Usually you need to say something like "I hate getting shot in the head" or "foot" or whatever. You are not saying you were hit there just that you don't like getting hit there. Try it with a bunch of buddies this weekend. ------------- Give me an inch, I'll give you a bruise. |
Posted By: X 303
Date Posted: 18 August 2004 at 9:15pm
I probably won't end up going for a couple weeks, due to lack of funds and vacation. ------------- A5 Flatline Car stock w/ built-in RVA Remote 20oz Co2 Leatherman Wave (for repairs) |
Posted By: Patman12
Date Posted: 18 August 2004 at 9:21pm
| i tried it once but when i got 10 feet past some sniper figured out what i was doing and decided to cover me (literally) in paint. i had about 12 bruises on myself the next day |
Posted By: X 303
Date Posted: 18 August 2004 at 9:26pm
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I've been covered in paint like that... 5 guys with autos vs. me and shooting til I'm ------------- A5 Flatline Car stock w/ built-in RVA Remote 20oz Co2 Leatherman Wave (for repairs) |
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Posted By: monster- baller
Date Posted: 18 August 2004 at 9:39pm
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I've never heard of that, i'd try with my buddies some time exept we don't have a designated dead zone. ------------- i reject reality and substitute my own |
Posted By: X 303
Date Posted: 18 August 2004 at 9:43pm
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walk towards some point to the left/right and behind them and then double back. ------------- A5 Flatline Car stock w/ built-in RVA Remote 20oz Co2 Leatherman Wave (for repairs) |
Posted By: jimmy_needles
Date Posted: 18 August 2004 at 9:49pm
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lol i think its just good tactic however i know some one disagrees but if you dont yell out your still in am i right? your just resting you arms lol. i will do this everyone i play with wont notice becuase they are to preoccupied being dumb and shooting there stock 98cs at 200 ft away
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Posted By: X 303
Date Posted: 18 August 2004 at 10:08pm
My guess, just from reading here, is that it's widely acknowledged as a tactic that "everyone" knows about, therefore "nobody" uses it, and they don't watch for it. They get careless and unobservative and shot. Just make it look convincing without it being cheating, and grabbing an ammo pod or two in your arms during a real game can make it look like you're packing up and your arms are too full to plug your barrel.------------- A5 Flatline Car stock w/ built-in RVA Remote 20oz Co2 Leatherman Wave (for repairs) |
Posted By: Slothbutt
Date Posted: 19 August 2004 at 12:25am
ahh good idea.. But it also works good right off the break..slide into a bunker and act like you where shot out going in. The confusion at the start of the game helps. ------------- http://img483.imageshack.us/img483/2688/3guns27ef.jpg - My Paintball Guns http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/2711/arand9mmak9.jpg - New "Toys" |
Posted By: X 303
Date Posted: 19 August 2004 at 4:59pm
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Oh yeah, the start is pretty hectic, however the #1 tactic at the Bunker Hill field mentioned above if you start at the top is to sneak down the main path past the 'dead' station and attack from slightly behind, and it takes a while for them to get set up there, so in the middle of the game would be good here too ------------- A5 Flatline Car stock w/ built-in RVA Remote 20oz Co2 Leatherman Wave (for repairs) |
Posted By: evil_fingers
Date Posted: 19 August 2004 at 5:16pm
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Man, you people are too shady ------------- Do not steal....the government hates competition!
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Posted By: Bauerp0weR 18
Date Posted: 19 August 2004 at 6:07pm
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I was thinking of doing this after my experience at a field about a week back, my group of friends were playing against 2 other guys in about their early 20's (I'm 16) and 4 guys in their 30's. It was apparent after a few rounds that they were whipping their paint when they got shot, and in fact during one round of woodsball, my friend Matt shot this guy 3 times in the back, and the guy turned around and asked him to surrender. Man, that was a bad experience, seeing how the people we played with couldn't follow the rules, but oh well... I think it was because they just didn't want to get pwned out by a "bunch of kids." ------------- Black Smart Parts Ion Halo B Check-It Unimount macroline 68/45 Pure Energy tank |
Posted By: X 303
Date Posted: 19 August 2004 at 7:51pm
Evil, Nasty, Paintballerses, yes they are, my Precious! Oops, sorry, got carried away there. Did you tell a ref?------------- A5 Flatline Car stock w/ built-in RVA Remote 20oz Co2 Leatherman Wave (for repairs) |
Posted By: RaTfreak
Date Posted: 19 August 2004 at 9:20pm
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try it sometime...it takes a lot of guts to stand up in a fire fight and start walking but IF it works it will be something to talk about.
btw...most likely after you try it once you probably won't be able to try it again with the same guys. Unless you get shot when you get up...then don't say a thing about what you were about to do, until you do it right.  ------------- Give me an inch, I'll give you a bruise. |
Posted By: A4*Jyim*
Date Posted: 19 August 2004 at 9:22pm
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Posted By: X 303
Date Posted: 22 August 2004 at 4:57pm
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Yeah, people have a way of adapting to your strategies, especailly when you talk about them. ------------- A5 Flatline Car stock w/ built-in RVA Remote 20oz Co2 Leatherman Wave (for repairs) |
Posted By: PerfectDark96
Date Posted: 22 August 2004 at 5:32pm
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i skipped the second page or so, so if im repeating what ppl have said already, then sorry. Im a ref at a local field and a dead mans walk really isnt too controversial. at our field, as soon as you put your barrel plug in, your out. as soon as you say that your out, then your out. A dead mans walk is when the person stands up as if they are out (legal) and just walks back to the dead box. If they put in thier plug or yell that they are out, then thier out. if dont dont do either of those, then they are still in and fair game. they cant put thier plug in and walk behind the bad guys then take it out, thats not legal. If a player sees someone trying a dead mans walk, and thier not sure if thier out or not, they should ask if he is out. if he says yes, then hes out (duh) if hey says no or doesnt reply, hes fair game. That doesnt mean light him up. thats how i ref it. Dead mans walk is legal, and is not cheap or unfair in any way. ------------- Accuracy by Volume 
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Posted By: X 303
Date Posted: 01 September 2004 at 2:29pm
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Thx ------------- A5 Flatline Car stock w/ built-in RVA Remote 20oz Co2 Leatherman Wave (for repairs) |
Posted By: @5 M@$T@
Date Posted: 01 September 2004 at 2:34pm
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IF YOU STOOD UP IN A FIREFIGHT AND SAID HIT, I WOULD SHOOT YOU JUST TO BE SAFE LIKE I ALWAYS DO, BUT YES, IT IS ILLEGAL AT MY FIELD TO SAY UR HIT WHEN UR NOT. ------------- I'm going to the darkside... |
Posted By: X 303
Date Posted: 01 September 2004 at 2:41pm
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If someone says "HIT!" it's usually illegal to shoot them. ------------- A5 Flatline Car stock w/ built-in RVA Remote 20oz Co2 Leatherman Wave (for repairs) |
Posted By: PlentifulBalls
Date Posted: 01 September 2004 at 5:37pm
So you see them say hit and shoot them. Wow, way to be an ass. I bet you do that just to say you get people out. -------------
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Posted By: lukeylouk
Date Posted: 01 September 2004 at 5:54pm
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i'm a ref and at my feild as soon as u call urself out u
are out if u put ur gun abof ur head u are out so in other words I would not allow it. -------------  
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Posted By: benttwig33
Date Posted: 01 September 2004 at 7:41pm
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it called the dead man's walk and you will most likely be told and everyone will stay in the game. ------------- Sig is WAY too big. |