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Topic: What to do...?
Posted By: Glassjaw
Subject: What to do...?
Date Posted: 23 August 2004 at 3:51pm
Should Hamm have given/give the gold to Yanng?


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Posted By: The Ho
Date Posted: 23 August 2004 at 3:53pm
who cares?

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Posted By: SeaWolf
Date Posted: 23 August 2004 at 3:54pm
The judges are biased anyway. Hamm is cool. Screw Korea.

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Posted By: Glassjaw
Date Posted: 23 August 2004 at 3:55pm
Originally posted by The Ho The Ho wrote:

who cares?


obviously i do to start this.  and sea wolf seems to care.


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Posted By: Trogdor2
Date Posted: 23 August 2004 at 3:55pm
It's his medal.  He should do what he wants with it.  The judges were stupid.  It's not his fault they screwed the chinese guy.

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Posted By: Project Irene
Date Posted: 23 August 2004 at 3:57pm
Judges should die, let Hamm keep his fricken hard earned medal.


Posted By: 98God
Date Posted: 23 August 2004 at 4:06pm
dont follow it


Posted By: MetallicaESPa5
Date Posted: 23 August 2004 at 4:34pm
i read it, and i don't get it, why did he have to give up the medal???

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Posted By: Glassjaw
Date Posted: 23 August 2004 at 4:38pm
he didnt give it up, thats the point.  the judges screwed up and gave hamm the gold instead of it to yanng.  hamm should have given it too yanng, but he kept it.

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Posted By: MSG.Mobius
Date Posted: 23 August 2004 at 4:40pm

Whats funny is that, no more than 1 or 2 people here have seen this.

Your too patriotic, don't know if it's good or bad.



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Posted By: boomstick
Date Posted: 23 August 2004 at 4:41pm
The judges **edited**ed up real bad. The judges should have given the medal to korea, but didn't. So its Hamm's medal and he should keep it.


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Posted By: Glassjaw
Date Posted: 23 August 2004 at 4:44pm
Originally posted by MSG.Mobius MSG.Mobius wrote:

Whats funny is that, no more than 1 or 2 people here have seen this.

Your too patriotic, don't know if it's good or bad.



if your referring to me, i have nothing better to do at 4 am than watch tv, and on my msn homepage this link caught my eye lol.


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Posted By: SandMan
Date Posted: 23 August 2004 at 4:48pm
He was awarded the medal. He keeps the medal.

If they want to award another medal to the Korean gymnast, that's their business. But they can't officially award a medal and take it back based on their error.

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Posted By: MSG.Mobius
Date Posted: 23 August 2004 at 4:53pm

Originally posted by SandMan SandMan wrote:

He was awarded the medal. He keeps the medal.

If they want to award another medal to the Korean gymnast, that's their business. But they can't officially award a medal and take it back based on their error.

They actually did that quite often. Atleast once in these Olympics, I forgot the details but someone did have to give up a Gold Medal, pretty sure someone messed up on the staff.

Everyone makes mistakes, if he didn't win it, he shouldn't have it.



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Posted By: SandMan
Date Posted: 23 August 2004 at 5:04pm
But he did win... The moment they declared him the winner.

They can't take a Superbowl victory back because of a bad call in the 4th quarter because it's over when it's over. Their only option is to correct their own mistake without penalizing the person they gave the medal to.

He didn't cheat. From his perspective, the medal is his fair and square.

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Posted By: phantom87
Date Posted: 23 August 2004 at 5:19pm

He based his routine to beat a score that was previously given to him. That score was changed after when the judges realized their mistake. I've heard talk about them giving 2 gold medals for that event.



Posted By: EYES
Date Posted: 23 August 2004 at 5:37pm

SandMan: I believe the pole is leaning more towards what should he have done morally, not what legal action should be taken.

All legal matters aside, I think he is a selfless bastard for not giving it to the Chineese guy. Even having worked that hard, I would have given it up in a heartbeat. Just the thought of even having an opportunity to do something like that is mind blowing. Imagine the honor in that. I guess you would only really feel that way if you were personally on the recieving end of something like that though.....



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Posted By: Pitlitcus
Date Posted: 23 August 2004 at 5:49pm
That whole thing is messed up. The International Gymnastics Federation (FIG) looked at a video review to determine his starting value should have been 10.0, instead three judges gave him a start value of 9.9. FIG is not suppose to use video review and if they do they should review his whole routine and they would find an error the judges missed that would deduct two tenths of point so he would be worse off.

I think Hamm should keep his medal and Korean keep his because he doesn't deserve the gold.


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Posted By: Trogdor2
Date Posted: 23 August 2004 at 6:19pm
Originally posted by EYES EYES wrote:

SandMan: I believe the pole is leaning more towards what should he have done morally, not what legal action should be taken.

All legal matters aside, I think he is a selfless bastard for not giving it to the Chineese guy. Even having worked that hard, I would have given it up in a heartbeat. Just the thought of even having an opportunity to do something like that is mind blowing. Imagine the honor in that. I guess you would only really feel that way if you were personally on the recieving end of something like that though.....


Yeah.  If you were in his shoes, you would have probably done the same thing.  I know I would have.  I mean, winning an Olympic Gold Medal for the best all around gymnast isn't a small thing...


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Posted By: Stewie
Date Posted: 25 August 2004 at 12:54am

He shouldnt give up the medal they did underscore him but they went back to watch it and found out the the korea guy was suppose to be docked in certian areas that he wasnt, and you dont hear anyone complaining about that so hamm should just keep the medal



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Posted By: Smitty
Date Posted: 25 August 2004 at 7:13am
Originally posted by The Ho The Ho wrote:

who cares?
my thought exactly.


Posted By: matt06
Date Posted: 25 August 2004 at 9:35am
i think we all need to realize something here....

youre all arguing over....Gymnastics....MENS gymnastics....


Posted By: VisionIMP
Date Posted: 25 August 2004 at 9:54am

It's funny its mainly the Koreans that want him to give up the medal. Now if thats not selfish i dont know what is.



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Posted By: ThEeViLcHiCkEn
Date Posted: 25 August 2004 at 9:57am
oh well, life sucks then you die


Posted By: †Sniper†
Date Posted: 25 August 2004 at 9:59am
You guys seem a bit out of it. This medal is HUGE. How many people, out of the tens of billions that have lived since the first modern olympics, can claim to be the best in the world? About 40...

Being one of a handful of people, a drop in a freaking ocean, it's not so easy to just say, "oh sure, take it, I don't want the thing."


Posted By: Bauerp0weR 18
Date Posted: 25 August 2004 at 10:00am

Originally posted by matt06 matt06 wrote:

i think we all need to realize something here....

youre all arguing over....Gymnastics....MENS gymnastics....

and is there a problem with that?

Anyway, I live near where the Hamm twins do, and there is a lot of support for them, no matter what the outcome.  I haven't heard all of the story, but you can't force him to take away his hard earned medal, it was the judges error, not Paul's.

I think in a sportsmanship perspective, if Paul, according to the facts, shouldn't have won the gold, then he should give it up, but you can't blame him for it.



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