the abortion poll
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Topic: the abortion poll
Posted By: TippmannA5User
Subject: the abortion poll
Date Posted: 27 August 2004 at 7:02pm
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Just wondering, I am a Catholic and think it is always wrong. ------------- Just shoot yourself and save me the trouble. click the pic! http://mypaintballpics.mypicgallery.com/mpg/Route.asp"> 
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Posted By: Nick13
Date Posted: 27 August 2004 at 7:05pm
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Im catholic too and i think its wrong.
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Posted By: Hades
Date Posted: 27 August 2004 at 7:07pm
I think your wrong.  ------------- 
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Posted By: Dune
Date Posted: 27 August 2004 at 7:09pm
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I agree with Hades. For now, and hopefully forever, it's legal. |
Posted By: Gatyr
Date Posted: 27 August 2004 at 7:26pm
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I can understand how they would want to if it was rape, but other than that, no one should ever consider it. And even then it shouldnt be done. ------------- 
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Posted By: TDonovan
Date Posted: 27 August 2004 at 7:29pm
| It's wrong. There is no debate or grey area in my mind. Under no circumstance should it go on. |
Posted By: †Sniper†
Date Posted: 27 August 2004 at 7:30pm
| I agree with the middle three |
Posted By: tyranny
Date Posted: 27 August 2004 at 7:31pm
| im undecided cuz i always here these people go back and forth in debates |
Posted By: Random_Person
Date Posted: 27 August 2004 at 7:32pm
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it's no ones choice but the mothers, let her decide, i went through 9 years of catholic school and now go to a catholic high school, but i didn't agree with alot of what they said so i formed my own opinions ------------- http://profile.xfire.com/kentuckyfriedgangsta"> 
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Posted By: FROG MAN
Date Posted: 27 August 2004 at 7:34pm
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its wrong and should never be done ------------- <1 meg sig = bad> |
Posted By: Hades
Date Posted: 27 August 2004 at 7:34pm
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So the father shouldnt have a say? Doesnt it take two to make a baby? -------------
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Posted By: †Sniper†
Date Posted: 27 August 2004 at 7:35pm
Good point. |
Hades wrote:Posted By: Random_Person
Date Posted: 27 August 2004 at 7:38pm
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ok so it SHOULD be a mutual decsion between the 2 parents, but still, ultamently its the womans decision, she can go to the clinic and all she has to do is say, I want an abotion, and they'll say Ok.
I think it could all be avoided if people just used condom's or the "pill" ------------- http://profile.xfire.com/kentuckyfriedgangsta">
I wish my grass was emo so it would cut itself. |
Posted By: Hades
Date Posted: 27 August 2004 at 7:40pm
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Sometimes birth control doesnt always work.... Remember that. -------------
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Posted By: Random_Person
Date Posted: 27 August 2004 at 7:44pm
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so then that less than 1 percent of the time, too bad, then it should be a mutal decision. ------------- http://profile.xfire.com/kentuckyfriedgangsta">
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Posted By: cadet_sergeant
Date Posted: 27 August 2004 at 7:49pm
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Posted By: FROG MAN
Date Posted: 27 August 2004 at 7:50pm
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oh come on dont kid your self. the guy can just go away and pay some money the mom is the one who ends up actully rasing it ------------- <1 meg sig = bad> |
Posted By: Hades
Date Posted: 27 August 2004 at 8:04pm
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Okay, Mr. Caveman. You must not have seen Three Men and a Baby, Full House, and every other movie/TV show where there is no Mom to raise the kids. -------------
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Posted By: †Sniper†
Date Posted: 27 August 2004 at 8:06pm
| Don't forget that show with the banana shack and the rich dude in prison |
Posted By: GhilleMan
Date Posted: 27 August 2004 at 8:10pm
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In a case of rape, most certainly, and i do think it is the womens choice, the rest of the world isnt delivering the baby, they arent taking care of it, that women is. personally i think the church and the rest of the world should mind their own buisness. ------------- Smart Parts, Stupid People... Go figure Shoot To Thrill on stockclass, mcarter, and the dreadful pbn Carter Mini Comp, Carter Tricar, PPS Blazer |
Posted By: †Sniper†
Date Posted: 27 August 2004 at 8:11pm
but what if the guy wants it and the women does not? |
Posted By: P8ntblldude
Date Posted: 27 August 2004 at 8:12pm
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hey what are the chances of having a baby if u wear a condom and the chick is on the "pill"? ------------- *Team Compulsive* Sponsors *Won-Ago-Biking* *Curleys Waterfront* |
Posted By: Hades
Date Posted: 27 August 2004 at 8:13pm
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Posted By: GhilleMan
Date Posted: 27 August 2004 at 8:14pm
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if you also lubricate properlly....... well next to nill ------------- Smart Parts, Stupid People... Go figure Shoot To Thrill on stockclass, mcarter, and the dreadful pbn Carter Mini Comp, Carter Tricar, PPS Blazer |
Posted By: fractus.scud
Date Posted: 27 August 2004 at 8:16pm
only in rape to a woman who can't take care/deliver the baby ie: teenagers. Otherwise your killing a human being, making you a murderer. After all, you are killing a living person who would otherwise gow up, go to scool, get a job, and have a family etc, you are destroying it's future for you conveinience or because your hubby forgot mr. rubberman or you forgot your pill. Only in rape.------------- 
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Posted By: Hades
Date Posted: 27 August 2004 at 8:17pm
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The chances are very small but there is still a chance. If it were me I would make sure that both involved knew the risk and the consequences and be prepaired to face them.
I think the choice between abortion is solely between the Mother, Father. -------------
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Posted By: fractus.scud
Date Posted: 27 August 2004 at 8:19pm
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^agreed, only have intercourse if you KNOW that a surprise may come out of it. -------------
Benny go home! |
Posted By: †Sniper†
Date Posted: 27 August 2004 at 8:20pm
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I'm gonna get a bit sketchy here... Ok, so the catholic church is against abortion because it is killing a human being. But, what about the soul? If, as they believe, souls exist and such, then would this really be doing anything wrong? I mean, you are releasing the soul back to wherever it came from, so that it can have a better human life at a later point. [/random though] |
Posted By: TippmannA5User
Date Posted: 27 August 2004 at 8:21pm
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I think it is killing no matter how you slice it. The fetus is a independent life form from the mother, it is not part of the mother's body. ------------- Just shoot yourself and save me the trouble. click the pic! http://mypaintballpics.mypicgallery.com/mpg/Route.asp">
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Posted By: Hades
Date Posted: 27 August 2004 at 8:24pm
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Umm... Ambilical Cord.?. -------------
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Posted By: Clark Kent
Date Posted: 27 August 2004 at 8:28pm
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So children of rape aren't human beings, and can be killed at will? Seems a bit harsh.
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Posted By: †Sniper†
Date Posted: 27 August 2004 at 8:31pm
So the mother has to live with a child that was forced upon her? Seems a bit harsh... |
Posted By: TippmannA5User
Date Posted: 27 August 2004 at 8:33pm
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part of the placenta, not the mother. The placenta is only attached to the mother by blood vessles, and the two's blood dose not mix, the neutriants are transfered through the placenta wall to the blood of the baby via the umbilical cord ------------- Just shoot yourself and save me the trouble. click the pic! http://mypaintballpics.mypicgallery.com/mpg/Route.asp">
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Posted By: †Sniper†
Date Posted: 27 August 2004 at 8:34pm
therefore the fetus is dependent, not independent. |
Posted By: GhilleMan
Date Posted: 27 August 2004 at 8:41pm
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but now this is bad because the church and some of society say its wrong, but what about in anceint times when fathers could kill any member of their family that lived in their house, at that time society deemed it right. personally i think society should just mind their own buisness and dont even get me started on the church ------------- Smart Parts, Stupid People... Go figure Shoot To Thrill on stockclass, mcarter, and the dreadful pbn Carter Mini Comp, Carter Tricar, PPS Blazer |
Posted By: †Sniper†
Date Posted: 27 August 2004 at 8:44pm
Humans are social creatures. We are also very curious. What you ask is beyond the scope of anyone. |
Posted By: GhilleMan
Date Posted: 27 August 2004 at 8:58pm
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yes humans are very social and curious creatures, and hell i watch my neighbors, In god i trust, all others i watch, but no one is ever going to agree on a subject like this, to many people think their opinion is fact, to many religions say different things, so society should just let it die, and if you dont beleive in it then dont do it, but if someone else does, well thats their thing. I mean im not talking about if you like your aunts hair but your cousin doesnt then he has the right to kill her, a line must be drawn. but so many laws were written before the age of modern medicine and technology that many things like abortion blur the lines. ------------- Smart Parts, Stupid People... Go figure Shoot To Thrill on stockclass, mcarter, and the dreadful pbn Carter Mini Comp, Carter Tricar, PPS Blazer |
Posted By: Ejp414
Date Posted: 27 August 2004 at 9:03pm
Yeah, infants are dependent on others to survive also. ------------- __________________ __________________ |
Posted By: Clark Kent
Date Posted: 27 August 2004 at 9:05pm
Did I say that? (The answer is "no.") |
Posted By: †Sniper†
Date Posted: 27 August 2004 at 9:06pm
yes, but infants are not solely reliant upon their mother. I get the feeling I'm not on topic anymore... |
Posted By: freedom fighter
Date Posted: 27 August 2004 at 9:21pm
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we should make a sticky on things not to post this has to be the 5th time this was posted ------------- 
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Posted By: Trogdor2
Date Posted: 27 August 2004 at 9:42pm
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It's a freaking life. You're killing a baby. In my opinion,
killing babies isn't right. If you can justify killing a baby for
no reason other than discomfort and a little extera effort, please tell
me.
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Posted By: Hades
Date Posted: 27 August 2004 at 9:54pm
One does not call it an "infant" until much later after birth. The real question is when is the bioligical matter considered to be a human and should it be allowed to be removed? -------------
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Posted By: Hades
Date Posted: 27 August 2004 at 9:56pm
Baby is just a generic word, it doesnt mean anything. You need to be more scientific. Some would call puppies, baby dog or kittens, baby cats. Certianly there is no outcry for killing baby ants or baby flies. -------------
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Posted By: PlentifulBalls
Date Posted: 27 August 2004 at 10:16pm
Way to make religion a bad word. ------------- 
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Posted By: †Sniper†
Date Posted: 27 August 2004 at 10:19pm
You know what I meant Mr. adorablebunnies... I meant something that is no longer inside the mother, but still too young to care for itself. |
Posted By: Hades
Date Posted: 27 August 2004 at 10:25pm
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Actually I didnt know what you had ment. I thought you were talking about a child inside the mother still. I need to go back and reread what you posted.
And Wow, Did everyone back track that sig? Maybe I should have rehosted it before posting it. Why on earth did everyone look up its origin? I certainly dont backtrack everyone elses stuff. Oopss... -------------
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Posted By: Slothbutt
Date Posted: 27 August 2004 at 10:31pm
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http://www.tippmann.com/players/forum/wwf77a/forum_posts.asp?TID=109482&KW=neutral&PN=0&TPN=1 - http://www.tippmann.com/players/forum/wwf77a/forum_posts.asp ?TID=109482&KW=neutral&PN=0&TPN=1
The old thread. Anyway I'm Pro Life. ------------- http://img483.imageshack.us/img483/2688/3guns27ef.jpg - My Paintball Guns http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/2711/arand9mmak9.jpg - New "Toys" |
Posted By: Frozen
Date Posted: 27 August 2004 at 10:34pm
And when you post a 700X50 sig...it's hard to ignore it...heh...me and youm0nt found that out the hard way.  edit: uh whoops I'm †Sniper† I just was logged in under this one |
Posted By: Clark Kent
Date Posted: 27 August 2004 at 10:46pm
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Spoken like somebody who has never been pregnant, given birth, or raised a child...
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Posted By: Slothbutt
Date Posted: 27 August 2004 at 11:05pm
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In my mind, discomfort for 9 months and ending a life don't really compare. I've been through worse then pregent for 9 months.
Then after that adoption. ------------- http://img483.imageshack.us/img483/2688/3guns27ef.jpg - My Paintball Guns http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/2711/arand9mmak9.jpg - New "Toys" |
Posted By: Clark Kent
Date Posted: 27 August 2004 at 11:14pm
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Discomfort? Try permanent scarring, permanent disfigurement, substantial risk of permanent urinary complications, significant career injury, potential school expulsion, social ostracization, and significant economic cost. And those are just the physical results. Then let's talk emotional. |
Posted By: Fallout_soldier
Date Posted: 27 August 2004 at 11:15pm
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to many posibilitys to make a poll on. When ever it is moraly right. Like when the person could die is under age or got raped. Not as birth control. ------------- 
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Posted By: Clark Kent
Date Posted: 27 August 2004 at 11:16pm
| Can somebody please explain what rape has to do with anything? |
Posted By: Slothbutt
Date Posted: 27 August 2004 at 11:30pm
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dang clark, with all that why would anyone want a kid ------------- http://img483.imageshack.us/img483/2688/3guns27ef.jpg - My Paintball Guns http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/2711/arand9mmak9.jpg - New "Toys" |