are you a christian? i'm interested to know how many others there are on this forum

ok you answered my question at the same time...

tippy_182 wrote: FROG MAN wrote: are you christian.? if not, i hope look in to it. Yea, actually my father is a baptist preacher.  And I've grown up with the bible all my life. Thats why I was saying if you don't know a decent amount about the bible then you miss out on alot in that movie.  So many analogies.

well thats good

Frozen wrote: I didn't see it. Just didn't seem interesting.

so far seems like alot.

FROG MAN wrote: are you christian.? if not, i hope look in to it.

i am

i think its cool (havent seen movie, but read bible) when the soldiers walk to him in the garden and ask if he is Jesus, and he sayd, "I am" and just him saying it knocks the soldiers down. imagine what will happen during judgement in the tribulation, i nthe end when all of the world attacks Israel and Jesus comes down and speaks and they all instantly die, and the bllod "will be as high as a horses bridle."

it just shows you the power of God.

munky! wrote: meteora wrote: I went to see it with my church, i got really sad its amazing what he did for us and what Jesus had to go through keep in mind that it was a holly wood movie and the realy story was probibly a bit less heroric... havnt seen it though i also dont think jesus has any signifigance but i dont really know the story or anything... even though my mom was a pasture for awhile (luthern) so was my grandpa

You my friend, are severly messed up...

Frozen wrote: tippy_182 wrote: Ejp414 wrote: I find it amazing that people need some Hollywood movie to become inspired spiritually. It says a lot about both American culture and a majority of those who title themselves "Christians". This goes to you and Frozen above me. I was already a christian before I saw this movie but this helped me to realize.  But so what If this influences someone to become a christian?  I say they have more guts than either of you.  At least the standing for something instead of nothing. When did I, even once, even possibly, say that I'm not Christian? Assumption is the mother of all **edited**ups.

If you are a real christian, you probably wouldn't be using that kind of language right now...

Apu wrote: tippy_182 wrote: munky! wrote: meteora wrote: I went to see it with my church, i got really sad its amazing what he did for us and what Jesus had to go through keep in mind that it was a holly wood movie and the realy story was probibly a bit less heroric... havnt seen it though i also dont think jesus has any signifigance but i dont really know the story or anything... even though my mom was a pasture for awhile (luthern) so was my grandpa I fail to see how someone endures days of constant torture and ridicule for us when he didn't even have to give us the time of day, and he isn't considered a hero?  We all deserve to be in hell and because of his love I'm going to heaven.  He's all the hero I need. Your going to **edited** yourself when you die and find out your beliefs are bull...

And you are gonig to *Insert your very immature language here* yourself when you die and find out that our beliefs were/are right...

tippy_182 wrote: Apu wrote: tippy_182 wrote: munky! wrote: meteora wrote: I went to see it with my church, i got really sad its amazing what he did for us and what Jesus had to go through keep in mind that it was a holly wood movie and the realy story was probibly a bit less heroric... havnt seen it though i also dont think jesus has any signifigance but i dont really know the story or anything... even though my mom was a pasture for awhile (luthern) so was my grandpa I fail to see how someone endures days of constant torture and ridicule for us when he didn't even have to give us the time of day, and he isn't considered a hero?  We all deserve to be in hell and because of his love I'm going to heaven.  He's all the hero I need. Your going to **edited** yourself when you die and find out your beliefs are bull... I've repented of my sins and confessed them to Christ.  No offense, but the last place you will find my is hell.  Couldn't go if I wanted to.  I'm blood bought

yup, me 2.

you can say that for me, trodor, you, ect. but i dunno about others, such as Apu, but it is their choice, 

its truly a life or death situation, either spend eternity being tortured, burned, and bitten by snakes, or walks streets of gold and worship God and never feel pain or be tired, personally, i choose option 2

Frozen wrote: Please, feed your garbage to someone else.

But you're the only one who deserves to eat it...

Frozen wrote: tippy_182 wrote: Frozen wrote: tippy_182 wrote: Ejp414 wrote: I find it amazing that people need some Hollywood movie to become inspired spiritually. It says a lot about both American culture and a majority of those who title themselves "Christians". This goes to you and Frozen above me. I was already a christian before I saw this movie but this helped me to realize.  But so what If this influences someone to become a christian?  I say they have more guts than either of you.  At least the standing for something instead of nothing. When did I, even once, even possibly, say that I'm not Christian? Assumption is the mother of all **edited**ups. By the way you were talking, I proposed that you werent.  And anyone the uses the F word probably isn'y a christian. Oh, so I can't be a christian because I swear every so often? One(two!) teeny weeny swear **edited**s me for life and possibly beyond? Please, feed your garbage to someone else. Ever heard of a devils advocate? Let's see if we can pick this apart. But no, I was actually serious about most of it.

but why would you do it if you know you are breaking the commandments.

also, he didmt say you weren't, but you truly arent acting like it

also, read my commandment quiz

Ejp414 wrote: tippy_182 wrote: Ejp414 wrote: I find it amazing that people need some Hollywood movie to become inspired spiritually. It says a lot about both American culture and a majority of those who title themselves "Christians". This goes to you and Frozen above me. I was already a christian before I saw this movie but this helped me to realize.  But so what If this influences someone to become a christian?  I say they have more guts than either of you.  At least the standing for something instead of nothing. Frozen---Mel Gibson has no control over my life, God does.  So don't make it seem like I'm worshipping Mel, because I'm not.  I think you're a bit wrong. If I wanted the easy way out, then I'd be Christian and be exactly the same as everyone else around me. Being one of a few openly atheist students in a Catholic school of a thousand isn't really a piece of cake. But I stand up for what I believe and think about it as well. So back to the thinking concept. I said a majority of those who call themselves Christian, not all of them. If your faith was not rejuvenated by the movie, then the post does not apply to you. Make sense? However, since you mentioned it, I'd say that anyone who chooses their faith because of a movie is a sheep, and the same goes for anyone who never gets past the Superego stage of their religious development.

Oh look, let's all bow to Ejp, he is a HERO!! [/Sarcasm]

Quite the contrary my friend.

Most of the poeple who are christian that are posting in this thread have made it clear that they were christians before the viewed the flick, and that it just made their faith even stronger...

Ejp414 wrote: WGP guy wrote: Frozen wrote: tippy_182 wrote: Frozen wrote: tippy_182 wrote: Ejp414 wrote: I find it amazing that people need some Hollywood movie to become inspired spiritually. It says a lot about both American culture and a majority of those who title themselves "Christians". This goes to you and Frozen above me. I was already a christian before I saw this movie but this helped me to realize.  But so what If this influences someone to become a christian?  I say they have more guts than either of you.  At least the standing for something instead of nothing. When did I, even once, even possibly, say that I'm not Christian? Assumption is the mother of all **edited**ups. By the way you were talking, I proposed that you werent.  And anyone the uses the F word probably isn'y a christian. Oh, so I can't be a christian because I swear every so often? One(two!) teeny weeny swear **edited**s me for life and possibly beyond? Please, feed your garbage to someone else. Ever heard of a devils advocate? Let's see if we can pick this apart. But no, I was actually serious about most of it. but why would you do it if you know you are breaking the commandments. also, he didmt say you weren't, but you truly arent acting like it   also, read my commandment quiz If you have ever masturbated then you have violated one of the Ten Commandments. Get the hell off our forum, sinner.

We are born sinners. But we won't get too deep into that because your small mind might bust from the confusment...

Look, being a christian is not about being a goody-two-shoes... Its believeing in God and that Jesus died on the cross for your sins and willing to accept the fact that he can and WILL forgive you for them...

As I have said before, a man who has raped 20 women and then murded them but then gets saved, WILL go to heaven. Whereas a man who is a up-standing citizen, a charitable and kindhearted person, but does not accept Jesus as the Lord and King, WILL go to hell.

Ejp414 wrote: -The Unknown- wrote: Ejp414 wrote: tippy_182 wrote: Ejp414 wrote: I find it amazing that people need some Hollywood movie to become inspired spiritually. It says a lot about both American culture and a majority of those who title themselves "Christians". This goes to you and Frozen above me. I was already a christian before I saw this movie but this helped me to realize.  But so what If this influences someone to become a christian?  I say they have more guts than either of you.  At least the standing for something instead of nothing. Frozen---Mel Gibson has no control over my life, God does.  So don't make it seem like I'm worshipping Mel, because I'm not.  I think you're a bit wrong. If I wanted the easy way out, then I'd be Christian and be exactly the same as everyone else around me. Being one of a few openly atheist students in a Catholic school of a thousand isn't really a piece of cake. But I stand up for what I believe and think about it as well. So back to the thinking concept. I said a majority of those who call themselves Christian, not all of them. If your faith was not rejuvenated by the movie, then the post does not apply to you. Make sense? However, since you mentioned it, I'd say that anyone who chooses their faith because of a movie is a sheep, and the same goes for anyone who never gets past the Superego stage of their religious development. Oh look, let's all bow to Ejp, he is a HERO!! [/Sarcasm] Quite the contrary my friend. Most of the poeple who are christian that are posting in this thread have made it clear that they were christians before the viewed the flick, and that it just made their faith even stronger... 1. It's the truth though. I find it funny how you can applaud Christians for standing up what they believe in, but not anyone else. Neat how that works. I don't think someone who has the courage to think is a hero though, thanks anyway. 2. "Quite the contrary"? What exactly do you disagree with there and how do you disagree with it. If I used your tactics, I could just say, "You're wrong" and this would be over. 3. Practicing Christians, eh? So what exactly did they do as a result of this strengthening of faith? Go to Church? You're supposed to do that anyway, I personally don't believe someone can simply label themselves Christian and still be a true member of the religion.

1. I can applaud other people, but not those who blatantly call my God a "man in the clouds".

2.And if i used your tactics i'd have my head stuck in a toilet...

3.It's not a label, it's a life.

Ejp414 wrote: -The Unknown- wrote: Ejp414 wrote: -The Unknown- wrote: Ejp414 wrote: tippy_182 wrote: Ejp414 wrote: I find it amazing that people need some Hollywood movie to become inspired spiritually. It says a lot about both American culture and a majority of those who title themselves "Christians". This goes to you and Frozen above me. I was already a christian before I saw this movie but this helped me to realize.  But so what If this influences someone to become a christian?  I say they have more guts than either of you.  At least the standing for something instead of nothing. Frozen---Mel Gibson has no control over my life, God does.  So don't make it seem like I'm worshipping Mel, because I'm not.  I think you're a bit wrong. If I wanted the easy way out, then I'd be Christian and be exactly the same as everyone else around me. Being one of a few openly atheist students in a Catholic school of a thousand isn't really a piece of cake. But I stand up for what I believe and think about it as well. So back to the thinking concept. I said a majority of those who call themselves Christian, not all of them. If your faith was not rejuvenated by the movie, then the post does not apply to you. Make sense? However, since you mentioned it, I'd say that anyone who chooses their faith because of a movie is a sheep, and the same goes for anyone who never gets past the Superego stage of their religious development. Oh look, let's all bow to Ejp, he is a HERO!! [/Sarcasm] Quite the contrary my friend. Most of the poeple who are christian that are posting in this thread have made it clear that they were christians before the viewed the flick, and that it just made their faith even stronger... 1. It's the truth though. I find it funny how you can applaud Christians for standing up what they believe in, but not anyone else. Neat how that works. I don't think someone who has the courage to think is a hero though, thanks anyway. 2. "Quite the contrary"? What exactly do you disagree with there and how do you disagree with it. If I used your tactics, I could just say, "You're wrong" and this would be over. 3. Practicing Christians, eh? So what exactly did they do as a result of this strengthening of faith? Go to Church? You're supposed to do that anyway, I personally don't believe someone can simply label themselves Christian and still be a true member of the religion. 1. I can applaud other people, but not those who blatantly call my God a "man in the clouds". 2.And if i used your tactics i'd have my head stuck in a toilet... 3.It's not a label, it's a life. 1. You're avoiding the point, first of all. Second of all, I never said anything to that effect. At all. I never even said God didn't exist. Good try. 2. You still have yet to address point #2. Do you not have a good reply or something? 3. One of Ghandi's most famous quotes says something to the effect of "Christians sound great, but I have never met one." He was talking about so many people can label themselves Christian, yet completely slack on the actual "life" part, as you put it.

1. But you said you're an atheist, way to contridict yourself...

2. This thread has changed from a "The Passion was a great movie" thread. To a God vs. * thread. So weather or not the movie touched you this tread DOES apply to you.

3. Is that a question as phrased by a moron or are you saying that i'm right and you give up?

Frozen wrote: Frozen wrote: Ok, I believe in god, whoopy for me. Why, may I inquire, should I have to believe in anything more than that? Surely saying "**edited**" isn't enough to make me go to hell or whatever... I mean come on. If god really loves you, as you say he does, why would he get all whiney about a swear? hmm? What is a swear? it is but a word, a means of communicating. WHO, I ask, says that "**edited**" is a BAD, SINFUL word? HUMANS do, NOT god. It's cool how nobody can answer this.

With that statement, i doubt you really do...

Yes

So you are one of those people who believe that you ar eborn good and depending on how much bad stuff you do in your life will determine your eternal placement? (As in: Heaven or Hell...)

Ok you murder someone, and then you swear. According to the Bible, you have done two equally wrong sins...

Have you EVER heard of Ephessians 4:29? If not, look it up..

Frozen wrote: Just cause I don't believe all the other stuff, doesn't mean i cant believe in bubba himself.

Are you trying to publically confess that you are a retarded 12 year old with epilepsy, or are you just being dumb?

Frozen wrote: -The Unknown- wrote: Frozen wrote: Just cause I don't believe all the other stuff, doesn't mean i cant believe in bubba himself. Are you trying to publically confess that you are a retarded 12 year old with epilepsy, or are you just being dumb? Forgive me for not expressing the same amount of care over such petty things as a name as your esteemed self deems necessary.

Forgive me for calling you a retarded 12 year old with epilepsy, I meant, a retarded 12 year old with epilepsy and a brain tumor

ekeboo wrote: this is a sad world we live in thats all i have to say.

Thank you for your useless contribution to this thread!

I think Ejp went to beddy-bye

darn double postage...

All you religious freaks are wrong. Jesus didnt die for us. HE WAS MURDERED!!! WOW, did any of you see the previews...or the movie!! Did it look like he willingly put himself onto that cross?

Must of you should know that all this bull**edited** written in the bible was writtin by jesus's apostles. People who were obsessed with jesus and would **edited** him the first chance they got. So OBVIOUSLY they are gonna say something like jesus died for all of us, join our religion. Thats all religion is about, converting others and becoming bigger. Not one person in the christian religion gives a crap about other religions. Why do you think they say **edited** like If you dont follow jesus as your lord and savior you're going to hell.

Lets see if this makes sense. Jesus, apparently loves everyone, but if you dont follow him, you're going to hell. Although you dont really go to hell just a hole in the ground.

Well i hope all you damn religious fanatics open your eyes to this load of bull **edited** and realize you're being played.

BTW Swears. ARE WORDS. They're no different than regular words like the ones im writing right now. What gives any of us to deem certain words innapropriate and vile? Let alone a god damn religion.

Frozen wrote: -The Unknown- wrote: Frozen wrote: -The Unknown- wrote: Frozen wrote: Just cause I don't believe all the other stuff, doesn't mean i cant believe in bubba himself. Are you trying to publically confess that you are a retarded 12 year old with epilepsy, or are you just being dumb? Forgive me for not expressing the same amount of care over such petty things as a name as your esteemed self deems necessary. Forgive me for calling you a retarded 12 year old with epilepsy, I meant, a retarded 12 year old with epilepsy and a brain tumor I love how you have to sink to such a lame level as name calling. You have been outclassed, and now you have nothing left. I think YOU are the one feeling threatened now. Backed into a corner with your little ideas, lashing out at anyone trying to say, just say, not even to convince, you of something different. You, sir, are a joke. Oh, your comments sure do seem to fit the mold of such a perfect christian, as you described. Grow up or get out.

I call them like they are.

Actually i'm just getting started...

Quite the opposite.

You my small minded atheist friend need help... You are the one with your little "ideas" who is backed into a corner. A corner filled with stinky trash. 

People like you are the one's who are "jokes", those who think they can do whatever they want, and when they die they fall into a deep sleep in which nothing happens...

Look bud, nobody is perfect... Certainly not me.

And the same to you my immature friend...

Please, if you have nothing to say beside malarky, leave, your useless posts are a waste of forum space.

VisionIMP wrote: All you religious freaks are wrong. Jesus didnt die for us. HE WAS MURDERED!!! WOW, did any of you see the previews...or the movie!! Did it look like he willingly put himself onto that cross? Must of you should know that all this bull**edited** written in the bible was writtin by jesus's apostles. People who were obsessed with jesus and would **edited** him the first chance they got. So OBVIOUSLY they are gonna say something like jesus died for all of us, join our religion. Thats all religion is about, converting others and becoming bigger. Not one person in the christian religion gives a crap about other religions. Why do you think they say **edited** like If you dont follow jesus as your lord and savior you're going to hell. Lets see if this makes sense. Jesus, apparently loves everyone, but if you dont follow him, you're going to hell. Although you dont really go to hell just a hole in the ground. Well i hope all you damn religious fanatics open your eyes to this load of bull **edited** and realize you're being played. BTW Swears. ARE WORDS. They're no different than regular words like the ones im writing right now. What gives any of us to deem certain words innapropriate and vile? Let alone a god damn religion.

Why don't you stick a gun in your mouth, pull the trigger and, go to hell, which as you say is only a "little hole in the ground"? Your existence is only a waste of air.

-The Unknown- wrote: Why don't you stick a gun in your mouth, pull the trigger and, go to hell, which as you say is only a "little hole in the ground"? Your existence is only a waste of air.

You sad sad little man. Did not my description of christians perfectly resemble you.

Btw im only telling it how it really is.

Frozen wrote: For the last time, I'm not athiest. Please try to not let that fly by your head this time. At least turn on the runway lights.

Its too bad you've blown them out by taking off with so many retarded far-fetched ideas... Or else I would turn them on.

-The Unknown- wrote: Frozen wrote: For the last time, I'm not athiest. Please try to not let that fly by your head this time. At least turn on the runway lights. Its too bad you've blown them out by taking off with so many retarded far-fetched ideas... Or else I would turn them on.

nice excuse for being ignorant.

VisionIMP wrote: -The Unknown- wrote: Why don't you stick a gun in your mouth, pull the trigger and, go to hell, which as you say is only a "little hole in the ground"? Your existence is only a waste of air. You sad sad little man. Did not my description of christians perfectly resemble you. Btw im only telling it how it really is.

Not in the least.

Unfortunatly you are very wrong...

VisionIMP wrote: -The Unknown- wrote: Frozen wrote: For the last time, I'm not athiest. Please try to not let that fly by your head this time. At least turn on the runway lights. Its too bad you've blown them out by taking off with so many retarded far-fetched ideas... Or else I would turn them on. nice excuse for being ignorant.

Heck, you can't work with what's not there...

Now i know why hes been banned 3 times. Way to go.....

BTW, you are a perfect description of a christian. You are ignorant, selfish, arrogant, and blind. No use in arguing the truth my man.

Frozen wrote: -The Unknown- wrote: Frozen wrote: For the last time, I'm not athiest. Please try to not let that fly by your head this time. At least turn on the runway lights. Its too bad you've blown them out by taking off with so many retarded far-fetched ideas... Or else I would turn them on. ...retarded, far fetched? whoa bucko... YOU are the one who believes in some random book, who is fed pre-planned words by priests, and who can do no better in a debate than quote the words of others.

Your statement is laughable, It is not at all a random book! It was made by men INSPIRED by the one and only perfectly holy God!!!

See the red letters above...

Your extreme ignorance insult me...

Frozen wrote: I'm done with this. You are too **edited**ing stupid to even try to debate with.

Hes got the right idea.

VisionIMP wrote: Now i know why hes been banned 3 times. Way to go..... BTW, you are a perfect description of a christian. You are ignorant, selfish, arrogant, and blind. No use in arguing the truth my man.

Twice actually... Once because of a picture that was "offensive" to the mods, yet much raunchier content was allowed by multiple people who posted in the "Babe" threads... And the other time was because I posted an what a political figure had said and I did use 3 *'s... I did not aim it at anyone. Yet your co-horts have displayed even worst language in this thread MULTIPLE TIMES... I do not believe that either of them were justifyed.

Heck i'm not the one who refuses to confess that I am a horrid sinner that sucks seriously and only God and save me for complete
|)amnatoion...

If only it were the truth... so sad.

Frozen wrote: I'm done with this. You are too **edited**ing stupid to even try to debate with.

Now look who's cornered... Ha!

VisionIMP wrote: The bible was written over 100's of years but priests jesus's apostels, etc. It was never written by god. Kinda sad how a person who hates all religion knows yours better than you.

I wrote: It was made by men INSPIRED by the one and only perfectly holy God!!!

Inspired is the key word. Please next time, try to read and understand my posts before you make wrong statements
about them. k?

VisionIMP wrote: Are you stupid?

After my above post I direct that question right back to you!

VisionIMP wrote: wasnt inspired by god either. It was inspired by greed and money.

Let's see some evidence for that. You obviously know very little about the Bible...

AdmiralSenn wrote: VisionIMP wrote: wasnt inspired by god either. It was inspired by greed and money. Just stop before someone guests you for intolerance and flaming. You have no idea what you're talking about. I'd be willing to bet that someone's working with you on making this thread a troll-fest. There's no way you're actually this ignorant.

HA, guested for flaming? Im not the one flaming. Why dont you read the entire thread. If you look back in those days, all they cared about was money. We got indulgences, constantly trying to convert people. Cant you see that?

Apu wrote: My post didnt come off like I meant for it. I was just trying to turn around what some Christians (Not all) that pretty much try to force the idea that they are right and there is no other way. I am not going to flame for your beliefs. Hell, I have a few friends who know the name Vishnu better than the name Jesus. I dont like how people take religion so personal. Well Im 99% sure this post made no sense...

Makes perfect sense. And thats what ive been trying to say.

I am sorry the idiotic remarks i have made. Please forgive me. I will try to make fewer retarded flaming posts...

AdmiralSenn wrote: I did read the whole thread. "Back in those days" where they had indulgences was SEVERAL HUNDRED YEARS AFTER THE BIBLE WAS WRITTEN. THOSE THINGS WERE ADDED BY THE CATHOLIC CHURCH, AS WERE MOST OF THE OTHER STUPID THINGS PEOPLE PRACTICE. THEY ARE NOT IN THE BIBLE. Is it clear enough now? Do I have to prove you wrong on every single point you raise?

The matter of fact is that the bible is still based on greed and money. Thats why they did that. And it wasnt hundreds of years, a lot less.