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Topic: 2005 Angel SPEED
Posted By: tgaffner
Subject: 2005 Angel SPEED
Date Posted: 10 September 2004 at 7:55pm

I just thought I would tell you about the real facts, and not hear a bunch of bullcrap from your best friend.....

The new 2005 Angel SPEED:

 

New Features:

FLY Internals
EyeQ
Fully Magnetic Trigger w/ Roller Ball Bearings (The Trigger does not touch the Marker or Frame in any way. SUUUPPPPEEERRR smooth.)
9V Operated
New Mini-Reg ( New housing and slides out with the twist of the wrist.)
New Grip Cheek Cover. (Picture of the A4 Girl with Wings....)
New Electronics. (4 LED Lights on the Back of Grip Frame and no Display)
Grip Frame and Trigger Gaurd to Foregrip Clearance. (More room in between the Trigger Gaurd and Trigger, also more room between Trigger Gaurd an Mini-Reg)
New Trigger System. (Vernier Wheels but with Roller Bearings)
Super Sleek Body (Comes with a built in Snatch Grip and the gun is SUPER small!)

BTW, Just the new Trigger has more features than most gun have on their....... well.... the whole gun!

Also, I have one on pre-order.




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Posted By: Darkwerks
Date Posted: 10 September 2004 at 8:01pm
A thing of beauty is a joy to behold


Posted By: Bugsy
Date Posted: 10 September 2004 at 8:01pm

Will the grips fit an A4?

The milling looks like the Nerve's.

Price?



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Posted By: falcon
Date Posted: 10 September 2004 at 8:02pm
Sick absolutly frickin Sick
I think I'm in love

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Posted By: tgaffner
Date Posted: 10 September 2004 at 8:03pm

No. They will not fit and they will cover up your LCD Display.



Posted By: DMN 0166
Date Posted: 10 September 2004 at 8:04pm

nice. still looks close to the 04, but i really like the loooks of this gun.

the trigger frame is my favorate



Posted By: Bugsy
Date Posted: 10 September 2004 at 8:06pm

Where's the LCD then?



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Posted By: tgaffner
Date Posted: 10 September 2004 at 8:07pm
Originally posted by Bugsy Bugsy wrote:

Where's the LCD then?

There is none.

But, there a 4 LED's on the Grip Frame.

The SPEED has always been the stripped-down, raw performance Angel.



Posted By: Bugsy
Date Posted: 10 September 2004 at 8:09pm

Did anyone see the video for it?

http://furby.pbcproductions.com/Speed.wmv - http://furby.pbcproductions.com/Speed.wmv http://furby.pbcproductions.com/Speed.wmv -



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Posted By: tgaffner
Date Posted: 10 September 2004 at 8:10pm

Here are other videos:

http://video.pbnation.com/video/Speed%2005%20-%20Dancers.mov - http://video.pbnation.com/video/Speed%2005%20-%20Dancers.mov

http://video.pbnation.com/video/Speed%2005%20-%20Flyover.mov - http://video.pbnation.com/video/Speed%2005%20-%20Flyover.mov

http://video.pbnation.com/video/Speed%2005%20-%20Owen%20Gives%20a%20Tour.mov - http://video.pbnation.com/video/Speed%2005%20-%20Owen%20Give s%20a%20Tour.mov

http://video.pbnation.com/video/Speed%2005%20-%20Max%20Fires.mov - http://video.pbnation.com/video/Speed%2005%20-%20Max%20Fires .mov



Posted By: evil-NYX
Date Posted: 10 September 2004 at 8:12pm
its sick, im goin order one when it comes out to the public!


Posted By: autocon
Date Posted: 10 September 2004 at 8:28pm
thats cool but im to poor to ever get ANY ANGEL


Posted By: TippyManic32
Date Posted: 10 September 2004 at 8:36pm

*Jaw drops* *Found dead the next day still looking at picture*



Posted By: pbdude985
Date Posted: 10 September 2004 at 8:48pm
i want it now but i cant afford it so sweeet

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Posted By: maroon out
Date Posted: 10 September 2004 at 8:56pm
Am I the only one who thinks it really ugly?

It looks like they milled a hair dryer...

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Posted By: 636andy636
Date Posted: 10 September 2004 at 8:57pm
the dudes hand looks like a penis


Posted By: MuRdoc18
Date Posted: 10 September 2004 at 9:10pm
pfff i already have 2 of em....old news....

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Posted By: HeadHunter59
Date Posted: 10 September 2004 at 9:19pm
Might have to go out get me one instead of the mag or b2k4 with pds. Whats price of them?


Posted By: Trogdor2
Date Posted: 10 September 2004 at 9:25pm
I might get one instead of the 'Borg...

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Posted By: Smitty
Date Posted: 10 September 2004 at 9:41pm
im in love!!!! that things rips!!!! not that i can afford one, but what's the price for one of those run? my guess is about 1000 to 15000 bucks. but that's just my guess.


Posted By: tgaffner
Date Posted: 10 September 2004 at 10:05pm

They are going to cost $975-$999.

Borg.... 05 SPEED.....05 SPEED!!!

 



Posted By: Glassjaw
Date Posted: 10 September 2004 at 10:11pm
is it me or does the a4, fly, and 05 speed look extremely relative?

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Posted By: A4*Jyim*
Date Posted: 10 September 2004 at 10:28pm
seen it, my fly will kill it

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Posted By: Homer J
Date Posted: 10 September 2004 at 11:29pm
It's paint-wastefullicious!


Posted By: rockerdoode
Date Posted: 10 September 2004 at 11:43pm
Whats the official website for Angel?  I tried a search and got like a million unofficial ones...oh yeah...and that gun, exuse me for one seccond while i CAPS: OH MY GOD THAT GUN IS FRICKEN SWEET IM GETTING A MINI-ORRICLE AND NOW I WONT EVEN BE ABLE TO LOOK AT IT BECAUSE OF THAT NEW GUN I WANT I WANT I WANT I WANT I WANT...................okay im done...jesus, that is a nice gun...i used to not like angels that much, but that is just friggin awsome....        &n bsp;         

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Posted By: Glassjaw
Date Posted: 11 September 2004 at 12:20am
www.wdp.tv

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Posted By: rockerdoode
Date Posted: 11 September 2004 at 12:21am
okay thanx a lot!

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Posted By: Glassjaw
Date Posted: 11 September 2004 at 12:21am
yup bro.

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Posted By: red_alert102
Date Posted: 11 September 2004 at 8:16am
Originally posted by tgaffner tgaffner wrote:

They are going to cost $975-$999.

Borg.... 05 SPEED.....05 SPEED!!!

 

Darn(i forgot i was on tippmann opps) it i could have affoarded that i should have waited for the 05 guns ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh i hate myself o well my ir3 is still good



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Posted By: ScarFace22
Date Posted: 11 September 2004 at 10:29am

Originally posted by 636andy636 636andy636 wrote:

the dudes hand looks like a penis

LMAO..pervert. Its true though it does look like a penis.



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Posted By: jeep 98 custom
Date Posted: 11 September 2004 at 10:36am
Wow, an Angel that I actually really like, I never thought I'd see the day.

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Posted By: snowdog7759
Date Posted: 11 September 2004 at 11:12am
i love it thers only one thingbut i cant get a grip on o yes i cant afford it thats right can i make payments on it? get back to me on this one im not kiddin im poor but i can make payments.

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Posted By: pimptastik
Date Posted: 11 September 2004 at 11:19am

Originally posted by tgaffner tgaffner wrote:

They are going to cost $975-$999.

wow...and A4flys have vision and are like another 200-400 dollars more.



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Posted By: NotDaveEllis
Date Posted: 11 September 2004 at 12:36pm
Originally posted by pimptastik pimptastik wrote:

Originally posted by tgaffner tgaffner wrote:

They are going to cost $975-$999.


wow...and A4flys have vision and are like another 200-400 dollars more.



Do you not see the eye covers on the side of the gun...

Edit-And this gun pretty much is a Fly.


Posted By: 2k4kev
Date Posted: 11 September 2004 at 12:38pm
the A4 and fly had sex and heres what you get.... the speed? I dont like the paint... it should be all one colour like all of there guns.... order the black... if you are pre ordering.

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Posted By: gnarkill
Date Posted: 11 September 2004 at 12:53pm
no lcd? no led???? ???

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Posted By: The Man
Date Posted: 11 September 2004 at 12:56pm
Sorry but it looks well terrible IMO but I really don't like the looks of them peroid. I have to say this one looks the best out of all of them. I'm sticking with my borg.

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Posted By: NotDaveEllis
Date Posted: 11 September 2004 at 12:57pm
Originally posted by gnarkill gnarkill wrote:

no lcd? no led???? ???


All the LEDs are on the back, I have a feeling most adjustments will be made via the trigger.


Posted By: autocon
Date Posted: 11 September 2004 at 1:11pm

Originally posted by Glassjaw Glassjaw wrote:

is it me or does the a4, fly, and 05 speed look extremely relative?

oh well id still get it



Posted By: autocon
Date Posted: 11 September 2004 at 1:12pm

Originally posted by The Man The Man wrote:

Sorry but it looks well terrible IMO but I really don't like the looks of them peroid. I have to say this one looks the best out of all of them. I'm sticking with my borg.

-MIke

i say angels are wayyy better then borg's and angels are sweet looking IM NOT SAYING borg's are bad thats just what i think and have u ever shot an angel



Posted By: tyranny
Date Posted: 11 September 2004 at 1:15pm
well the good news is by hte time ill be able to afford a speed you'll be able to find those used does anyone know if they have a new bolt like the a4's and i think those are a lot kooler but i liked the old milling more it looks kind a nerve  oh well the rest of the gun will more than make up for that


Posted By: The Man
Date Posted: 11 September 2004 at 1:22pm
Originally posted by autocon autocon wrote:

Originally posted by The Man The Man wrote:

Sorry but it looks well terrible IMO but I really don't like the looks of them peroid. I have to say this one looks the best out of all of them. I'm sticking with my borg.

-MIke

i say angels are wayyy better then borg's and angels are sweet looking IM NOT SAYING borg's are bad thats just what i think and have u ever shot an angel



How do you know that have you shot a borg? Have you even seen one in person? Yes i have shot many angels old and new.


Posted By: 98c - baller
Date Posted: 11 September 2004 at 1:37pm

the angel 4 fly is still the best

but i would take this one anytime



Posted By: Bugsy
Date Posted: 11 September 2004 at 4:05pm
Originally posted by 98c - baller 98c - baller wrote:

the angel 4 fly is still the best

but i would take this one anytime

Wrong. The 05 Speed has all the Fly's internals and EyeQ. Although it has LED's instead of a LCD.

I haven't seen the 05 SPeed in person yet, but I'm pretty sure it's lighter than the A4 Fly.



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Posted By: Bugsy
Date Posted: 11 September 2004 at 4:12pm

It uses a 9v battery, yuck, and the trigger doesn't look like you can change it, the milling looks like the Nerve's and the grip color doesn't match the gun to well, as well as the feed neck. I dunno abotu this one.



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Posted By: 636andy636
Date Posted: 11 September 2004 at 4:14pm
Originally posted by ScarFace22 ScarFace22 wrote:

Originally posted by 636andy636 636andy636 wrote:

the dudes hand looks like a penis


LMAO..pervert. Its true though it does look like a penis.




hehe


Posted By: BARREL BREAK
Date Posted: 11 September 2004 at 4:59pm
so, sexay


Posted By: pimptastik
Date Posted: 11 September 2004 at 5:41pm
i think i have my 2 next guns in mind...Viking or This

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Posted By: Vitamin
Date Posted: 11 September 2004 at 6:47pm
My A-5 is good enough for me.

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Posted By: Glassjaw
Date Posted: 11 September 2004 at 7:13pm
Originally posted by Bugsy Bugsy wrote:

It uses a 9v battery, yuck, and the trigger doesn't look like you can change it, the milling looks like the Nerve's and the grip color doesn't match the gun to well, as well as the feed neck. I dunno abotu this one.



first off, what wrong with 9v's?  secondly, you can adjust the trigger.  www.wdp.tv  , it uses two wheels to adjust the trigger.  secondly if black doesnt match black....idk.  and yes it does look like the nerve, but the a4, fly, and speed 05 all look the same realtively.  i think the nerve was modeled after the angel line.


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Posted By: rockerdoode
Date Posted: 11 September 2004 at 7:15pm

so mabey angel should sue them for copying their designs???

haha



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Posted By: tgaffner
Date Posted: 11 September 2004 at 8:04pm
Originally posted by pimptastik pimptastik wrote:

Originally posted by tgaffner tgaffner wrote:

They are going to cost $975-$999.

wow...and A4flys have vision and are like another 200-400 dollars more.

That is because the 05 SPEED does not have the LCD Board. That is the main reason why it is so much cheaper.



Posted By: tgaffner
Date Posted: 11 September 2004 at 8:06pm

Originally posted by NotDaveEllis NotDaveEllis wrote:

Originally posted by gnarkill gnarkill wrote:

no lcd? no led???? ???


All the LEDs are on the back, I have a feeling most adjustments will be made via the trigger.

That, and the Buttons on the Grip Frame Spine.



Posted By: tgaffner
Date Posted: 11 September 2004 at 8:08pm

Originally posted by tyranny tyranny wrote:

well the good news is by hte time ill be able to afford a speed you'll be able to find those used does anyone know if they have a new bolt like the a4's and i think those are a lot kooler but i liked the old milling more it looks kind a nerve  oh well the rest of the gun will more than make up for that

Yes, it does have the A4 Soft Touch Bolt.



Posted By: autocon
Date Posted: 11 September 2004 at 8:09pm
you no what NONE OF U HAVE SHOT THIS GUN USE ONE THEN COME BACK AND TALK ABOUT IT.


Posted By: tgaffner
Date Posted: 11 September 2004 at 8:13pm

Originally posted by autocon autocon wrote:

you no what NONE OF U HAVE SHOT THIS GUN USE ONE THEN COME BACK AND TALK ABOUT IT.

Hi, I am the English Language, have we met?



Posted By: White's Return
Date Posted: 11 September 2004 at 8:33pm

retail= around 1700

i can get it for= 1400  i love internet connections



Posted By: warbeak2099
Date Posted: 11 September 2004 at 10:24pm
I like it. Sorry, but it doesn't look a thing like the ugly peice of junk Nerve. It's a Fly with an LED Screen instead of LCD. I love it.

^ What are you talking about? The Speed is the under-$1k Angel. If your "connections" are getting you the Speed for $1400 then you're getting screwed.

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Posted By: Glassjaw
Date Posted: 11 September 2004 at 10:27pm
what exactly is the difference between fly and  05 speed?

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Posted By: Bugsy
Date Posted: 11 September 2004 at 10:59pm
Originally posted by White's Return White's Return wrote:

retail= around 1700

i can get it for= 1400  i love internet connections

ROFL. You're getting ripped off!

Retail is $950-$1000



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Posted By: Frozen
Date Posted: 12 September 2004 at 12:18am
White never did rank in my 20,000 most intelligent tippmann forumers list...


Posted By: dye prs
Date Posted: 12 September 2004 at 12:31am

i think the dm4 looks better. but i like that gun. its nice.



Posted By: Project Irene
Date Posted: 12 September 2004 at 12:43am

Add it to my list of something that costs more than I can afford...

(/me thumbs through list....................................................(twe nty minutes later)......./me continues thumbing through list................(twenty minutes later).........../me is still thumbing through list...........)



Posted By: tgaffner
Date Posted: 12 September 2004 at 10:05am

Originally posted by Glassjaw Glassjaw wrote:

what exactly is the difference between fly and  05 speed?

Pretty much the only simularities are the Internals and the EyeQ System. Everything else is different.



Posted By: jjclown23
Date Posted: 11 November 2004 at 11:03pm
droooling over pictures..............

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Posted By: reticule
Date Posted: 12 November 2004 at 12:13pm
My friend has a 05 speed and I have a variation of the fly.

Similarities (as mentioned by tgaffner):
Internals, like ram, valve, bolt, etc.
Break through eye system

Differences:
05 speed is lighter (by how much, I do not know)
9V instead of the rechargable in the fly
05 speed has magnet trigger, return strength isn't adjustable from what I know, but the toe and pull distances are
LED indicators instead of LCD.

With the MT/magno trigger on the fly, I like both trigger systems equally, however the 05 speed trigger is admittedly somewhat smoother.  For the value, the 05 speed can't be beat in the high end tournament gun class.


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Date Posted: 12 November 2004 at 12:25pm


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Posted By: Smitty
Date Posted: 12 November 2004 at 4:40pm
you gotta love the new Angel Speeds. i know i do. too bad i play woodsball and the fact that i dont have 1000+ bucks to spend on a paintball gun.


Posted By: tgaffner
Date Posted: 12 November 2004 at 8:11pm
Just wait untill the new G7 to comes out!!!!


Posted By: reticule
Date Posted: 12 November 2004 at 10:28pm
tgaffner, G7?

Personally, I'm anticipating the Evolve Newton valve kit due out this month:

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We even shocked ourselves when we fired this baby up for the first time. Utilising a revolutionary Equalising Valve design (Patent Pending) we were able to push the Angel to new limits. By having a valve that requires minimal force to open even at higher pressures we have been able to give the Angel the lowest weight reciprocating mass of any paintball marker to date. Driven by a 10g delrin and steel hybrid hammer, we allow the user to drop their LPR pressure dramatically whilst keeping low dwell settings. We had an A4 shooting at 290fps with an input of 250psi, an LPR setting of 40 and dwell of 9 sensi off and this thing just bounced off paint, even hellfire!!! Using these new settings we were able to squeeze over 2000 shots from a 68/4500 cool fill, all at high speed and with zero kick. 6 months warranty.

Kit comes with the following:

Newton Valve
Newton Volumiser
LPR Adjuster cap
10g Hammer
Ram Removal tool
2 adjuster screws (one for ultra fine tuning)
LPR Gauge
Spare spring and o-ring kit

NOW AVAILABLE FOR PRE-ORDER. STOCK EXPECTED END OF NOVEMBER.


Check it out http://www.evolvepaintball.com/other.php - here


Posted By: Johndcjr1989
Date Posted: 12 November 2004 at 11:05pm

Originally posted by Smitty Smitty wrote:

im in love!!!! that things rips!!!! not that i can afford one, but what's the price for one of those run? my guess is about 1000 to 15000 bucks. but that's just my guess.

the speeds are never that much...alot of the reason other angels are is b/c of there special features but the speed is just pure performance.  im guessin theyre about 900+ but def. not over 1100.  id be surprised if they even broke 4 digits.



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Posted By: evil-NYX
Date Posted: 13 November 2004 at 7:32pm
they are like 995, just under 1000

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Posted By: ncbbh88
Date Posted: 13 November 2004 at 9:33pm

Originally posted by maroon out maroon out wrote:

Am I the only one who thinks it really ugly?

It looks like they milled a hair dryer...

 

thank you      i dont like the looks of em but i like the performance



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Posted By: tgaffner
Date Posted: 13 November 2004 at 9:43pm

Originally posted by reticule reticule wrote:

tgaffner, G7?

Personally, I'm anticipating the Evolve Newton valve kit due out this month:

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We even shocked ourselves when we fired this baby up for the first time. Utilising a revolutionary Equalising Valve design (Patent Pending) we were able to push the Angel to new limits. By having a valve that requires minimal force to open even at higher pressures we have been able to give the Angel the lowest weight reciprocating mass of any paintball marker to date. Driven by a 10g delrin and steel hybrid hammer, we allow the user to drop their LPR pressure dramatically whilst keeping low dwell settings. We had an A4 shooting at 290fps with an input of 250psi, an LPR setting of 40 and dwell of 9 sensi off and this thing just bounced off paint, even hellfire!!! Using these new settings we were able to squeeze over 2000 shots from a 68/4500 cool fill, all at high speed and with zero kick. 6 months warranty.

Kit comes with the following:

Newton Valve
Newton Volumiser
LPR Adjuster cap
10g Hammer
Ram Removal tool
2 adjuster screws (one for ultra fine tuning)
LPR Gauge
Spare spring and o-ring kit

NOW AVAILABLE FOR PRE-ORDER. STOCK EXPECTED END OF NOVEMBER.


Check it out http://www.evolvepaintball.com/other.php - here

Yup. The new Angel G7. Comes out in January or February for around 1600 bucks!

I'll post a thread about it tommorrow.



Posted By: EvanJ1551
Date Posted: 15 November 2004 at 7:07pm

Originally posted by Trogdor2 Trogdor2 wrote:

I might get one instead of the 'Borg...

no keep the borg...ive shot the 05 and its not that accurate and the borg can get just as fast



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