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Topic: $550 dollars to spend
Posted By: CIA356
Subject: $550 dollars to spend
Date Posted: 11 September 2004 at 11:03am

Okay right now I am trying to find a new gun to replae my a-5 I won't be buying it now probably next spring but I want to start looking now. But their is one problem I cannot get HPA where I live so I will be using anti siphoned C02 well here is the list of guns I am looking at if there are any others I should look at just tell me.

B2k4 with pds
Vision Impulse
03 VF cocker
04 VF Cocker
Outkast Cocker
Tactical COcker
ANS GX4 cocker
An automag of some sort (I know nothing about mags except that they are pretty fast an look pretty cool)
Evil Omen
 Umm I am sure there are more but yeah what do you think remember anti siphoned co2 :(



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Posted By: bigmike102
Date Posted: 11 September 2004 at 11:38am
mech. cockers run pretty well on c02 

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Posted By: DMN 0166
Date Posted: 11 September 2004 at 11:44am
out of those, the best gun on c02 would be the cocker. the ans isnt a cocker, its a focker. and i would not recomend it. its very heavy, and isnt made out of the same high quality materials like wgp models.


Posted By: CIA356
Date Posted: 11 September 2004 at 11:55am
Well i guess which cocker would you guys recomend

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Posted By: DMN 0166
Date Posted: 11 September 2004 at 11:59am
ive only heard great things about the outkast. they are great out of the box, and have a ton of potential


Posted By: 2k4kev
Date Posted: 11 September 2004 at 12:24pm
hmm i like the tacticle looks cool... but its no diffrent from the outkast

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Posted By: Fallout_soldier
Date Posted: 11 September 2004 at 12:47pm

A stock cocker. any high ends will suck on co2 get anti syphons and an expansion chamber if you can



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Posted By: roadrunner0535
Date Posted: 11 September 2004 at 12:52pm
i think b2k4 w/ pds...i think thats like 630...if i were u...i would post this in february...by then most of the 2005 guns should be out...i'm guessing u should go w/ a b2k5 w/ pds if it comes out

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Posted By: paintballaluke
Date Posted: 11 September 2004 at 1:04pm

Originally posted by roadrunner0535 roadrunner0535 wrote:

i think b2k4 w/ pds...i think thats like 630...if i were u...i would post this in february...by then most of the 2005 guns should be out...i'm guessing u should go w/ a b2k5 w/ pds if it comes out

B2k4 with pds is 495$, but I would wait for the 05 guns.



Posted By: tippmann32
Date Posted: 11 September 2004 at 2:33pm
b2k4 w/PDS from shorepaintball without a fade is 466$ thats what i would do

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Posted By: CIA356
Date Posted: 12 September 2004 at 11:46am
Umm have they released any info or pics of the 2005 autocockers yet and also will an ebladed autococker work on anti siphoned co2

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Posted By: vftactical2
Date Posted: 12 September 2004 at 12:04pm

i have a tactical autococker and its amazing i played for 6 hours yesterday with no problems and it was the fastest autococker there it was amazing i seroiusly hit around 10-11bps at the chrono and trigger pull is light as a feather and i used a anti siphon co2 tank also

also they cost 599 not 550

and get yours at doropaintball.com it comes with a tactical kaner kit and unimount and hose line



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Posted By: CIA356
Date Posted: 12 September 2004 at 5:15pm

Yeah the prices maybe a bit off I used a coverter program (i am canadian) so I just tried to find guns for around that price.

Well it looks like I am getting a cocker first off which one?
And Why?
And the big question what makes a cocker a cocker how are they different from an a-5 or spyder?
And what is the difference between the Tactical cocker and an outkast they look really different but yeah what is different inside and if possible can you tell me what the differences do because I have no idea what a 3 way or a selenoid does?



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Posted By: CIA356
Date Posted: 12 September 2004 at 6:23pm

And wouldn't it be better to just save up the extra hundred and instead of a Tactical get a super stock I doubt i could afford a tactical anyways but how is a mini orracle



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Posted By: 2k4kev
Date Posted: 12 September 2004 at 6:46pm
Originally posted by CIA356 CIA356 wrote:

And wouldn't it be better to just save up the extra hundred and instead of a Tactical get a super stock I doubt i could afford a tactical anyways but how is a mini orracle



mini orracles are mad.... there quiet, fast, n super sexy... I was paired w/ a guy who had one today... he was ripping... i dont know if u wanna put co2 through the orrracle or super stock though


p.s. im canadian too

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Posted By: CIA356
Date Posted: 12 September 2004 at 7:07pm
Where you from and was his mini orracle e-class or mechanical

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Posted By: roadrunner0535
Date Posted: 12 September 2004 at 7:20pm
Originally posted by paintballaluke paintballaluke wrote:

Originally posted by roadrunner0535 roadrunner0535 wrote:

i think b2k4 w/ pds...i think thats like 630...if i were u...i would post this in february...by then most of the 2005 guns should be out...i'm guessing u should go w/ a b2k5 w/ pds if it comes out

B2k4 with pds is 495$, but I would wait for the 05 guns.

 

lol...srry...i guess i mixed it up w/ something else...i've been doing that a lot ever since i started skool again



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Posted By: depackers91
Date Posted: 12 September 2004 at 7:54pm
b2k4 with pods


Posted By: CIA356
Date Posted: 13 September 2004 at 6:08pm
Originally posted by CIA356 CIA356 wrote:

Yeah the prices maybe a bit off I used a coverter program (i am canadian) so I just tried to find guns for around that price.

Well it looks like I am getting a cocker first off which one?
And Why?
And the big question what makes a cocker a cocker how are they different from an a-5 or spyder?
And what is the difference between the Tactical cocker and an outkast they look really different but yeah what is different inside and if possible can you tell me what the differences do because I have no idea what a 3 way or a selenoid does?



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Posted By: TRAVELER
Date Posted: 14 September 2004 at 11:05am

The ANS GX4 is a great gun. It weighs just the same as my 04 vert cocker, but outperforms it in every way. It's very fast for a mechanical cocker, doesn't short stroke, and has a very consistent regulator. That crap about it being made of cheaper material than a WGP is nonsense, they're both made out of 6061 T6 aluminum.

Compared to an 04 vertical cocker, the ANS has better regs,  a better three way, better ram, a better bolt, a better barrel, a much better trigger, and it comes in more colors. Add up the cost of those upgrades to the price of an 04 vertical cocker and see what it comes to.

Suggested retail is $749, which would be a good price, but actual retail is $549, whcih is a steal.

 



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Posted By: Panda Man
Date Posted: 14 September 2004 at 11:42am
I Say Get a  E-A5 with a Few Upgrades and spend the Rest of the money on paint and Air.

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Posted By: Exit-Wound
Date Posted: 14 September 2004 at 12:27pm
Originally posted by CIA356 CIA356 wrote:

And the big question what makes a cocker a cocker how are they different from an a-5 or spyder? I have no idea what a 3 way or a selenoid does?



Do you know about timing an autococker? Cockers are complicated little machines my friend. Your talking about how an autococker is different from an A-5 or a Spyder, which makes me think you don't know very much about them. Nothing wrong with that, but I think the autococker is the wrong marker for you. If you really want a cocker just make sure you learn how to time it correctly. I use an 03 on Co2 with great results.

Here is some stuff you will need to look into if your getting a cocker: http://www.bow-gun-hunting-sports.com/worrauto.htm - Information about Worrgames autocockers

http://www.ukcougars.freeserve.co.uk/animatedautococker.htm - How they work

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Posted By: CIA356
Date Posted: 14 September 2004 at 5:35pm

Originally posted by Panda Man Panda Man wrote:

I Say Get a  E-A5 with a Few Upgrades and spend the Rest of the money on paint and Air.

 

I already have an a-5 but I want something that will be a bit better speedball gun



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Posted By: CIA356
Date Posted: 17 September 2004 at 6:08pm
how does a black magic autococker compare to the rest of the ones I listed. 

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Posted By: red_alert102
Date Posted: 18 September 2004 at 7:11am

It has a great reg, i think it comes with a good lpr i forgot.  You can not get e-bladed cocker unless you get HPA and i would not get any other gun you listed besides cockers otherwise you will probally ruin it.  I would get the the mech mini orracle and you will be fine with co2 and those guns have a great lpr, reg, barrel, trigger and there wgp.  I would go with that and its 600 but you only would need a revy for it anyway.  Here is a link http://bradyspaintball.com/wgpmiorau20.html - http://bradyspaintball.com/wgpmiorau20.html

If you ever get HPA i would look into an e-blade but otherwise dont



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Posted By: 2k4kev
Date Posted: 18 September 2004 at 7:27am
the black magic reg is the best reg WGP has made other that the sto on the karni... but I'd say look at the orracles they come with a great front block( you'd only replace the ram), a good on off, great barrel.

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Posted By: drewguere
Date Posted: 18 September 2004 at 9:09am
Get a vision impulse


Posted By: red_alert102
Date Posted: 18 September 2004 at 10:52am

Originally posted by drewguere drewguere wrote:

Get a vision impulse

if you read the post you would know he wouldnt be running a n2 tank and that is a dumb idea so he has to go with a cocker



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Posted By: CIA356
Date Posted: 19 September 2004 at 1:05am
SO does that mean look at a black magic or stick with the mini orry

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Posted By: CIA356
Date Posted: 20 September 2004 at 8:53pm
And which will be better and faster a B2k4 with PDS or a mini orry or a black magic

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Posted By: sexyanimal
Date Posted: 20 September 2004 at 10:25pm
or just buy whatever and ANTI syphone would work



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