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Topic: The Wife’s Mag
Posted By: tipp-ed off
Subject: The Wife’s Mag
Date Posted: 21 September 2004 at 7:31pm

Here's my wife's Automag. I've never used it but she says its really fast and it is super accurate.

Automag RT-Pro, X-Valve, Ygrip, Kapp grip panels, ULE trigger, ULE mainbody, CP gas thru foregrip, New Designs Rail, Dye ASA, Macroline setup, 12" Dye Ultralight, Dye Barrel condom, 70ci Dye Throttle HPA and an Empire Reloader.

http://thewifesmag.mypicgallery.com/mpg/Route.asp - ClickForMorePics



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Replies:
Posted By: BearClaw
Date Posted: 21 September 2004 at 7:39pm
Nice Mag.  I like the whole paint sceem just not a Huge fan of the z grip although it looks cool it just seems to be uncomfortable looking.  I have never used one though.

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Posted By: TippyManic32
Date Posted: 21 September 2004 at 7:45pm
Not a fan of the Y-grip, never made sence to me, but cool gun otherwise


Posted By: benttwig33
Date Posted: 21 September 2004 at 7:46pm
Nice

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Posted By: DracoPlasm
Date Posted: 21 September 2004 at 7:56pm
Nice

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Posted By: sinisterNorth
Date Posted: 21 September 2004 at 7:57pm
Nice looking mag. If you dont mind, how much is it worth with all that stuff? Good job!

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Posted By: PROCARBINEϗ
Date Posted: 21 September 2004 at 7:58pm
The Y grip is ergonomically correct and once a player gets used to it its hard goin back to regular grip frames.  Anyways I'm HUGE fan of Mags so with that said 9/10 it wants the hAir so bad it can taste it but its not out!! 

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Posted By: Trogdor2
Date Posted: 21 September 2004 at 7:58pm
I love Ygrips.  They are soo comfortable and they let you shoot really fast.  A very nice setup overall.  That deserves at least a Reloader B though...

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Posted By: warbeak2099
Date Posted: 21 September 2004 at 8:36pm
I like your wife's setup better than yours. That is a beautiful mag. Same color scheme as mine...

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LCE-SpyderMag | G-Force Pneumatic Mag | '99 RF Sniper II


Posted By: PROCARBINEϗ
Date Posted: 21 September 2004 at 8:42pm
Originally posted by sinisterNorth sinisterNorth wrote:

Nice looking mag. If you dont mind, how much is it worth with all that stuff? Good job!



RT ULE CUSTOM with Y frame... 460
grips ?
Trigger 50
ULE body 20
cp gas thru 24
rail ?
DYE asa 28
Macroline 13
Ultralite 90
Condom 5
Throttle 217
Empire Reloader 45
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 Whole setup will run about 970  w/ the high price hpa though



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Posted By: team policia
Date Posted: 21 September 2004 at 8:58pm
not bad....that grips kinda takes off from the overall look though

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Posted By: Project Irene
Date Posted: 21 September 2004 at 9:01pm
Nice, bet it rips.


Posted By: LbLPunk
Date Posted: 21 September 2004 at 9:03pm
you have a good wife keep her

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Posted By: warbeak2099
Date Posted: 21 September 2004 at 9:20pm
Actually PROCARBINEϗ, it would cost around this:

RT Custom w/ ULE Body, ULT Kit, Y-Grip = 477
KAPP Grip Panels = $30
CP Gas-Thru = $18
ND Rail = $25
DYE ASA = $15
DYE Ultralight = $80
DYE Throttle = $220
Empire Reloader = $45
Total = $910

Little lower bu w/e lol.

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MIDN 2/C, US Navy

LCE-SpyderMag | G-Force Pneumatic Mag | '99 RF Sniper II


Posted By: PROCARBINEϗ
Date Posted: 21 September 2004 at 9:25pm
Originally posted by warbeak2099 warbeak2099 wrote:

Actually PROCARBINEϗ, it would cost around this:

RT Custom w/ ULE Body, ULT Kit, Y-Grip = 477
KAPP Grip Panels = $30
CP Gas-Thru = $18
ND Rail = $25
DYE ASA = $15
DYE Ultralight = $80
DYE Throttle = $220
Empire Reloader = $45
Total = $910

Little lower bu w/e lol.


but you have to give me points for effort lol.  But good example of

A. Smart shopping
B. Proving a point with facts to back you up (rare these days)


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Posted By: SnakeEyes
Date Posted: 21 September 2004 at 11:00pm
Retarted grip, but the rest of the gun is cool.

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Posted By: tipp-ed off
Date Posted: 21 September 2004 at 11:30pm

Originally posted by SnakeEyes SnakeEyes wrote:

Retarted grip

Wow...for someone who hacks up 98s your pretty closed minded to something different. To everyone who hates on the Y-grip, I've dry fired this gun and its suprisingly comfortable. It just feels right when your holding it tight. Yes it looks wierd, but its all about functionality. If it works for her, that's all that matters.



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Posted By: SnakeEyes
Date Posted: 22 September 2004 at 12:04am
Hacking up a Tippmann and twisting your wrist up to hold a gun properly are two completly different things. If you are holding the gun properly without a drop you have to twist your wrist up into just as much of a contortion act as you do with a regular 45* grip with a large drop. You can't comfortably grip the Y or Z frames without a drop and fire at your hands full potential.

You put the muscles too off axis and are just straining and wasting energy to pull properly.

I am all for different things, but I certainly do not condone stupid pratice or designs that hold back the human machine.

I guess if you just play ocasionally and fan the trigger or only pull with one finger without reguard for speed, it will work. But I have never had as much luck with a goofy 90* or -45*+ grip over a normal, properly distanced 45* grip.

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Posted By: warbeak2099
Date Posted: 22 September 2004 at 5:42am
Actually the point of the Y, Z and 90* grips is that your wrist isn't bent. Ever tried one? I have, they work. So, you're pretty much just wrong. Nice try though.

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LCE-SpyderMag | G-Force Pneumatic Mag | '99 RF Sniper II


Posted By: SnakeEyes
Date Posted: 22 September 2004 at 10:58am
I have tried them. They don't work if you cradle your tank between the crook of your elbow and your torso. at that point, with no drop, your palm is at 45* with your forearm. You can't deny human physics.

It will however work if you rest your tank against your shoulder with no drop, but then your hopper sticks out way over your head which is just silly.

Try as you might, you won't convince me that a grip like that will improve a tight and proper speedball technique.

But what ever, you don't have to agree with me.

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Posted By: ItsJustMe
Date Posted: 22 September 2004 at 1:20pm
Originally posted by SnakeEyes SnakeEyes wrote:

I have tried them. They don't work if you cradle your tank between the crook of your elbow and your torso. at that point, with no drop, your palm is at 45* with your forearm. You can't deny human physics.

It will however work if you rest your tank against your shoulder with no drop, but then your hopper sticks out way over your head which is just silly.

Try as you might, you won't convince me that a grip like that will improve a tight and proper speedball technique.

But what ever, you don't have to agree with me.


Wow, tard, go out and actually hold one for real. I honestly doubt you've tried them if you feel like they twist your wrist.

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Posted By: indrul2.0
Date Posted: 22 September 2004 at 1:59pm
all i have to say is no fair

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Posted By: SnakeEyes
Date Posted: 22 September 2004 at 4:16pm
Originally posted by ItsJustMe ItsJustMe wrote:

Originally posted by SnakeEyes SnakeEyes wrote:

I have tried them. They don't work if you cradle your tank between the crook of your elbow and your torso. at that point, with no drop, your palm is at 45* with your forearm. You can't deny human physics.

It will however work if you rest your tank against your shoulder with no drop, but then your hopper sticks out way over your head which is just silly.

Try as you might, you won't convince me that a grip like that will improve a tight and proper speedball technique.

But what ever, you don't have to agree with me.


Wow, tard, go out and actually hold one for real. I honestly doubt you've tried them if you feel like they twist your wrist.


I've tried them, they don't work for me and a lot of others will agree with me. Maybe not here, but what ever.

Stick your forearm out straight and put your hand inline with that. Now let your hand just sit naturally, don't extend or clench your fingers. A nice 45* angle forms between your palm and your forearm. There is a reason why all firearms, and almost every marker has a 45* grip. Human geometry dictates that a 45* grip frame with your wrist straight is the most comfortable and efficent.

Calling me names surely won't change my stance. I have held just about every gun out there on the market. Just because I don't own them, doesn't mean that I don't know what's up.

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Posted By: Shadowminion
Date Posted: 22 September 2004 at 4:52pm
Nice gun anyway there !! lol, take care of her, and her gun there Bro , looks like you got some keepers

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Posted By: warbeak2099
Date Posted: 23 September 2004 at 5:38am
Nope, I was talking about a rail/uni setup too. They don't just work with d/f's. The reason real firearms have 45* gripframes is because you don't hold a real firearm like you hold a paintball marker in speedball. When tucking your eblow in and staying tight the y/z/90* frames really do work. I have no clue why your wrist is bending. There are a huge number of people who own these style gripframes and it works for them. If for some reason it doesn't work for you then you must have a very strange physical deformation. But don't have us believe that the gripframes don't work period, you are the minority in this case. I really think Tom Kaye knows more about engineering than you do.   

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LCE-SpyderMag | G-Force Pneumatic Mag | '99 RF Sniper II


Posted By: ScarFace22
Date Posted: 23 September 2004 at 7:31am
Looks good but like others said I personally don't like the "Y" grip.

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Posted By: Krustee
Date Posted: 23 September 2004 at 10:53am

Ok, you may or may not like them, but look at this pic...

That's pretty typical for a tourney player behind a bunker.  Look at his wrist.  Does that look like a normal/comfortable position?  No.  Put that grip on and his wrist will turn to a slightly more natural position.

Have I used one?  No.  But it makes sense.  I don't think I'd use one out in woodsball or scenario games, but for tourney markers I think it could have some merit.



Posted By: ScarFace22
Date Posted: 23 September 2004 at 11:07am

As a tourney player I'll tell you that sometimes the way you hold your gun isn't very comfortable. For me persoanlly, after a long day at a tourney my arms, wrist and shoulder hurds from my gun and 68/45 tank. I've used the "Y" grip before and IMO it just doen't feel right.



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Posted By: SnakeEyes
Date Posted: 23 September 2004 at 11:18am
Originally posted by warbeak2099 warbeak2099 wrote:

I really think Tom Kaye knows more about engineering than you do.   



Hah ha, ok. He might, but I highly doubt he knows more than the rest of the industry, who all use regular 45* grips sans WDP.

But I'm done here. I got this off track enough.

It's a nice gun, I am intrigued by Mags, I just can't stand goofy grip frames.

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Posted By: LbLPunk
Date Posted: 23 September 2004 at 1:16pm
maybe markers need to have the trigger a little more foward for tourney players

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Posted By: CyanideX
Date Posted: 23 September 2004 at 1:19pm
Ugly.

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Woodsball is better.


Posted By: warbeak2099
Date Posted: 23 September 2004 at 5:43pm
Originally posted by SnakeEyes SnakeEyes wrote:

Originally posted by warbeak2099 warbeak2099 wrote:

I really think Tom Kaye knows more about engineering than you do.   



Hah ha, ok. He might, but I highly doubt he knows more than the rest of the industry, who all use regular 45* grips sans WDP.

But I'm done here. I got this off track enough.

It's a nice gun, I am intrigued by Mags, I just can't stand goofy grip frames.


The rest of the industry uses 45* frames because TK has always been ahead of the curve. Let's see, AGD invented these ahead-of-their-time products:

Compressed air/HPA tanks
Warpfeed
Z-Grip
Powerfeed

They've always been ahead of the curve. Along with others such as Craig Palmer and Colin Thompson, TK is one of the brightest minds in paintball. People who flame his products are usually extremely close-minded. Just because something looks wierd isn't a reason to bash it. Also, just holding a Z/Y/90* setup is not going to prove anything. You have to play with it. If you've actually played with it and gotten use to your wrist being straight instead of bent, and you still don't like it then you're really in the minority. Most people would rather their wrist be straight, comfortable, and relaxed. But anyways, you have the right to your opinion. Just don't try and make it like the design is flawed or it's just hype. That's when it becomes not an opinion but unfactual. The design does just what it's supposed to do. I don't understand why you'd want your wrist kinked up in a wierd position, but to each his own.

Again, great looking setup. Your wife is a good catch!    

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Posted By: BARREL BREAK
Date Posted: 23 September 2004 at 5:51pm
nice!


Posted By: SnakeEyes
Date Posted: 23 September 2004 at 6:47pm
Originally posted by Krustee Krustee wrote:

Ok, you may or may not like them, but look at this pic...





I believe that marker already has a Y grip on it and he still has his arm all kinked up.

Hey, I said I am fascinated by Mags. They have had some really great ideas over the years like the Powerfeed and Comp Air, but I still dont agree with their Y/Z frames or the Warp.

I don't like forcing myself to shoot a gun with only one hand. You should be able to shoot just as well with both hands to be a superb speedballer. The Warp limits that, but it is still a darn cool idea. It's just a bit too much extra crap to add onto a gun that is supposed to be light and versatile.

Just because people are ahead of the curve doesn't mean that everything they make is a godsend.

Palmer Pursuit, man, they have really come out with some superb stuff. I am not demeaning them in anyway.

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Posted By: warbeak2099
Date Posted: 23 September 2004 at 7:04pm
No that's an E-Mag. You can't put a Y/Z/90* frame on an E or X Mag... yet lol. The Y/Z/90* does not force you to do anything. It frees up your wrist if anything. I'm not saying you can't have an opinion about how it feels, but the fact is it really does straighten your wrist. You really can't dispute that.    

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Posted By: SnakeEyes
Date Posted: 23 September 2004 at 7:22pm
Look at that picture closer. That really looks like the grip bottom is angled forward. Oh well, maybe it's the picture angle playing tricks. I don't know Mags that well.

I do know that the Y grip doesn't work when I am using my normal hold style.

But here is something that really irkes me about Mags, if they are so advanced, how the hell can't they come up with a reasonable gas line routing system? That big old hose hanging off the side always bothered me about my ex-teammates Mags.

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Posted By: nforcer4
Date Posted: 23 September 2004 at 8:10pm

theres more than one way the old rt rails had a gas line threw them, go threw gas threw grip, i seen other ways to.and the y frame is really easy to hold. But i still got the intelliframe planning on the logic later vert later but oh well i can't wait for my mag to be done oh yea that's a deadly mag your wife has nice ups and colour sheme tell here to keep it up.

NFORCER.

 



Posted By: warbeak2099
Date Posted: 23 September 2004 at 8:43pm
The gasline isn't a hassle. I have mine running pretty streamline. It doesn't get in the way.

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LCE-SpyderMag | G-Force Pneumatic Mag | '99 RF Sniper II


Posted By: ritzblitz
Date Posted: 26 September 2004 at 9:16am

i like it. i shoulda gotten a mag... :-/



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Posted By: SebastianBlack
Date Posted: 26 September 2004 at 9:56am
No offense meant, but AGD has been an innovating force in this industry longer then most players have been alive. Their approach with that frame made it a very coveted accessory for the mags. Perhaps you just arent used to the style of play where that kind of grip would make a difference. But to someone thats into mags and likes ripping on a trigger, the y frame is a godsend and more companies should look into similar designs

Originally posted by SnakeEyes SnakeEyes wrote:

Look at that picture closer. That really looks like the grip bottom is angled forward. Oh well, maybe it's the picture angle playing tricks. I don't know Mags that well.

I do know that the Y grip doesn't work when I am using my normal hold style.

But here is something that really irkes me about Mags, if they are so advanced, how the hell can't they come up with a reasonable gas line routing system? That big old hose hanging off the side always bothered me about my ex-teammates Mags.





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Posted By: DrunkDriver
Date Posted: 26 September 2004 at 12:40pm
it looks ugly and uncomfortable, the back looks like it would jam into your arm if you were ever playing tight

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Posted By: nforcer4
Date Posted: 26 September 2004 at 2:54pm
if you were playing that tight anygun would and at least you can play super tight and not haveing moving parts as a problem and don't know how ya think it's ugly with a colour sheme like that


Posted By: @5 M@$T@
Date Posted: 26 September 2004 at 4:09pm
Weird lookin, your wife plays paintball!?!? Is that why you married her? lol,jk

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