Matrix or Alias Timmy
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Topic: Matrix or Alias Timmy
Posted By: ScarFace22
Subject: Matrix or Alias Timmy
Date Posted: 26 September 2004 at 8:40pm
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Well I sold my old Impy and now Im looking into getting a new gun. I have it limited down to these two guns the LCD Trix and the Alias Timmy. I was looking at spending less then 1,000 but the Alias is a pretty nice gun. I guess here are the questions that I have and the answers to these questions might be the deciding factor on which gun I get. 1) What how is reliability on both 2) Which has a better eye system 3) Lastly is the Alias REALLY worth over 1,000. Is it SOO much better then the 03 Matrix that I should go out and buy one right away or are they just about equal and spend the less money on the Trix? 03 Matrix
Alias Timmy EDIT- Please don't reccomend any type of cocker, I owned one and HATED it. Also no ICD's or SP guns either ------------- 
Check my thread in the Great guns thread for Timmy tech help or PM me |
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Posted By: gnarkill
Date Posted: 26 September 2004 at 9:36pm
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Ok you can have the light weight timmy or the ok weight trix. They both have excellent eyes..so dont worry about that. (i think theres a ramping chip made for the lcd trix, correct me if i`m wrong) ok matrix is closed bolt and has less parts compared to a timmy in my opinion. And most timmies are open bolt and have a derlin bolt so well it`ll swell in the rain.. (i saw a guy at my field with his timmy, it had SOOOO many parts) ok if you play back i recommend gettin a trix if you play back and a timmy if you play front...its all down to the weight...IMO ------------- 
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Posted By: Civilian Of
Date Posted: 26 September 2004 at 10:04pm
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Both are OPEN bolt markers. Timmys do not have more parts, how do you figure. The old skoo trix bolts have around 16 orings on the bolt.. and the bolt is 8 pieces. Who plays in the rain.. if you have a good quality bolt in the timmy it wont swell. Non of mine have ever swelled. The alias is better all around then the old skoo trix IMO. Faster then sin, and very air efficient. Rather light as well. And there are ramping chips made for both.. you can get any electro a ramp chip or a board. |
Posted By: FROG MAN
Date Posted: 26 September 2004 at 10:17pm
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dm4>alias>trix lcd ------------- <1 meg sig = bad> |
Posted By: rootsradicals
Date Posted: 27 September 2004 at 12:00am
| i prefer trix's....personal preference i guess, timmys are lighter, and better in the efficiency dept. too, hmm....its a tough one |
Posted By: ScarFace22
Date Posted: 27 September 2004 at 7:48am
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Thats the other thing I forgot to ask too. 1) Which is more gas effiecient 2) Which is lighter 3) Which easier maintence I am a front player but thier are a few things that are turning me against the Alias Timmy #1 The biggest reason is the price. $1,300 is a real lot of money #2 Timmys don't always seem to be very reliable. At the local proshop and field there always seems to be someone with a Timmy waiting to be fixed I don't know if I want to put out 1,000 on a paintball gun, especially one that might break down alot. -------------
Check my thread in the Great guns thread for Timmy tech help or PM me |
Posted By: Rick_James
Date Posted: 27 September 2004 at 11:56am
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So you like the matrix, and are willing to spend $1300 on a gun?
DM4! |
Posted By: ScarFace22
Date Posted: 27 September 2004 at 12:54pm
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I like the Matrix but there are some things that I don't like about the Trix. Yes I would be willing to spend 1,300 on a Timmy but I don't want to spend 1,500 on a DM4. The Alias Timmy is already a stretch and I don't know how I'm going to afford it I defintily can't afford a DM4. Also Im not crazy over Dm4's I like the Alias more. -------------
Check my thread in the Great guns thread for Timmy tech help or PM me |
Posted By: The Man
Date Posted: 27 September 2004 at 1:04pm
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Dude Dm4s are going for 1150. I'd take the Timmy over the old school trix any day. -Mike ------------- Cp critical Bob Long Lengens painball park Team Rendition |
Posted By: 2k4kev
Date Posted: 27 September 2004 at 1:44pm
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Ba ha ha... civilian of... im loving the flatline ------------- 
KH ARMY>you |
Posted By: gnarkill
Date Posted: 27 September 2004 at 5:43pm
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scareface look at pbgear.com dm4`s are 1150...(i bet i know what your goina get now) and civilian of... a fellow ref at my field took apart his timmy it looked like a lot of parts compared to my friends dm3..yes there is a lot of o rings on the trix bolt but i know he hasnt ever had to replace any of his. -------------
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Posted By: ScarFace22
Date Posted: 28 September 2004 at 1:02pm
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Im still probably going to get the Alias or 03 Trix. Like I said Im not crazy over the DM4's. -------------
Check my thread in the Great guns thread for Timmy tech help or PM me |
Posted By: The Man
Date Posted: 28 September 2004 at 1:21pm
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Why? The Dm4 is better than the old school trix. IMO. They choice should be DM4 or alias I'd take the dm4.
------------- Cp critical Bob Long Lengens painball park Team Rendition |
Posted By: Gumbe02
Date Posted: 28 September 2004 at 2:08pm
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http://forceofnature.com/video/XtremeMatirx.wmv - http://forceofnature.com/video/XtremeMatirx.wmv there a matix little run down video i hope it help you with your desition ------------- Mag shooter |
Posted By: ScarFace22
Date Posted: 28 September 2004 at 7:49pm
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Im going to take a look at those videos and soon im going to have to make my decsion. -------------
Check my thread in the Great guns thread for Timmy tech help or PM me |
Posted By: Gatyr
Date Posted: 28 September 2004 at 10:36pm
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Just curious, why wouldnt you get a DM4, but you would an old school trix? The DM4 is better on close to all ways, and has a better resale value. I say alias timmy, BTW. ------------- 
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Posted By: ScarFace22
Date Posted: 29 September 2004 at 9:17pm
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I don't..for real I can't give a definant answer to that question. Theres just something about the DM4 I don't like and I don't like that it doesn't have an LCD screen. While its not that important and its not the end of the world Im just six of the whole dip switch LED light thing. It was a pain in the butt with my WAS board. Im not saying its too hard but its just annoying. Also I don't like the look of the DM4 either. It looks like a melted blob of aluminum. EDIT: What kind of lube do you use for the hammer and poppet? Also, does anyone know if the trigger of the Alias is adjustable? -------------
Check my thread in the Great guns thread for Timmy tech help or PM me |
Posted By: Gumbe02
Date Posted: 30 September 2004 at 3:39pm
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yeah i hope you could be if not that a wast of 1k+ i dont like lcd just another thing to play around with ------------- Mag shooter |
Posted By: jaked588
Date Posted: 30 September 2004 at 7:28pm
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alias! like i told u on aim ------------- 
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Posted By: ScarFace22
Date Posted: 01 October 2004 at 7:30am
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Yea thats what Im really leaning towards right now. Like I told you on aim for an extra $100 im getting alot more with the Alias then the DM4. With the Alias Im getting a gun thats lighter, more gas efficient, just as fast, comes with a delrin bolt, comes with a great board and LCD. -------------
Check my thread in the Great guns thread for Timmy tech help or PM me |
Posted By: Gumbe02
Date Posted: 01 October 2004 at 2:07pm
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well no matter what one you get you will be happy with it...and right a review on the gun here thanks ------------- Mag shooter |
Posted By: 2k4kev
Date Posted: 01 October 2004 at 2:13pm
funny he was talking about how fast the gun shoots and how good it is... but at the end it seemed to be shooting slow... or was it just me -------------
KH ARMY>you |
Posted By: ScarFace22
Date Posted: 01 October 2004 at 6:34pm
I don't know the video doesn't work for me. -------------
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Posted By: jaked588
Date Posted: 01 October 2004 at 7:09pm
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2k4kev- yea i realized that too. he sucks at shooting, and he said the gun will have a dye ultralight boomstick -------------
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Posted By: ScarFace22
Date Posted: 01 October 2004 at 7:30pm
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I wish I could see the movie. It most liekly wouldn't change my mind in anyway but I would like to see it anyway. -------------
Check my thread in the Great guns thread for Timmy tech help or PM me |
Posted By: reticule
Date Posted: 02 October 2004 at 3:49pm
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I have a planet eclipse team e-blade, 2k4 dark timmy, and a dm4. Here are a list of categories and corresponding rankings: Accuracy (in terms of consistency, since same barrel/paint were used with all three): 1. E-blade and DM4 2. Timmy easily last (horrible consistency with the torpedo since it needs a "breaking-in" period as noted on many other forums. In other words the regulator parts are of poor quality, and require work or gun cycling in order to smoothen their operation) Construction: 1. E-blade 2. DM4 close 2nd 3. Timmy easily last Weight (notice the inverse relationship with Construction): 1. Timmy 2. DM4 3. E-blade Efficiency: 1. Timmy by far 2. E-blade 3. DM4 Full Maintenance (full strip-down/rebuild): 1. DM4 2. Timmy 3. E-blade In terms of field maintenance, they're all equally easy. Remove bolt, clean, insert bolt. Out-of-the-box Readiness: 1. DM4 2. E-blade 3. Timmy The timmy springs in both regs require sanding, otherwise they'll rub or scratch the inner walls of the regs. This is total BS for gun of this "class" and price. |
Posted By: ScarFace22
Date Posted: 05 October 2004 at 11:00am
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ok. Well its still between the DM4 and Matrix but I'm still leaning towards the Alias. I thought the stock Alias reg was suppose to be pretty good. Also I never heard of any problems with springs. -------------
Check my thread in the Great guns thread for Timmy tech help or PM me |
Posted By: jaked588
Date Posted: 05 October 2004 at 7:18pm
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heres something for u to think about. are there any places near u that can work on timmys? on dye guns? u might wanna think about that cuz around here, ppl have to send dye guns to the factory to get 'em fixed -------------
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Posted By: ScarFace22
Date Posted: 06 October 2004 at 9:01am
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Yea the local proshop near me. Also if they can't fix them they're are like 100 other proshops near me in the Philly and north Delaware area. If there is something wrong with it though right from the start Im going to write a very "nice" letter to Bob Longs company and tell him what a POS his Timmys are and he has a lot of guts to sell a faulty 1,300 gun to a person. For that price it should be flawless from the start. Also can someone explain how to sand down the springs in the regulator if it scratches the sides. -------------
Check my thread in the Great guns thread for Timmy tech help or PM me |
Posted By: The Man
Date Posted: 06 October 2004 at 10:27am
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Forget the timmy get a borg.
------------- Cp critical Bob Long Lengens painball park Team Rendition |
Posted By: ScarFace22
Date Posted: 06 October 2004 at 11:10am
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Naa I don't like Cyborgs I would rather have the Alias Timmy. -------------
Check my thread in the Great guns thread for Timmy tech help or PM me |
Posted By: The Man
Date Posted: 06 October 2004 at 11:35am
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Why don't you like them? Have you even seen one in person and shot it.
It's better than a Timmy no bounce, true 30bps, more gas efficient,
higher quality parts, better stock barrel, cheaper,sturdier
construction CNC milled the timmy has the grip frame made out of
stamped aluminum.Better quality control I don't now about you but I
don't want to spend 1300 on a Marker with burrs on the springs. It also
has one of the best regs on the market. If you want
vids or more info feel free to ask. -Mike ------------- Cp critical Bob Long Lengens painball park Team Rendition |
Posted By: ScarFace22
Date Posted: 06 October 2004 at 1:05pm
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It doesn't have an LCD screen (not that its overly important but im sick of LED lights to adjust settings) the milling isn't as nice as the Alias I hate the regulator on those things It doesn't have an adjustable feed neck I hate the trigger and so basically I hate everything about it. Its just a little faster then a timmy and its probably not as light as an Alias either.
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Check my thread in the Great guns thread for Timmy tech help or PM me |
Posted By: The Man
Date Posted: 06 October 2004 at 1:41pm
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LCD screen is unessary just one more thing to go wrong. There only one botton it's very simple to use. Milling meh I like the look of the borg. The alias is only less than a quater pound lighter than a borg. what's wrong with the reg it's one of the best. Since it costs less you can get a after market feedneck. The trigger can adjust to your liking. But what ever it's your choice just throwing out my opnion. Good Luck! ------------- Cp critical Bob Long Lengens painball park Team Rendition |
Posted By: Gatyr
Date Posted: 06 October 2004 at 5:14pm
And you prefer the torpedo of the mac-dev reg? May i ask why?
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Posted By: ScarFace22
Date Posted: 06 October 2004 at 7:25pm
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O yea I know. As I said though its not overly important but after using the WAS LED light system for so long I'm just kind of sick of it and I'm looking for something different.
That might not matter to some people but Im looking for something LIGHT!
I guess some people like it. To me its really big and long. It reminds me of the Max flo reg. The feed neck also is big compared to the Alias neck and as I said before its not adjustable.
The same thing with the Alias Timmy GATYR- I've used both and I just like the feel of the torpedo reg more then the Borg reg. -------------
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Posted By: The Man
Date Posted: 06 October 2004 at 7:55pm
------------- Cp critical Bob Long Lengens painball park Team Rendition |
Posted By: ScarFace22
Date Posted: 07 October 2004 at 7:52am
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Right now im still leaning towards the Alias but I'm not limiting myself to just that gun. All high-end guns are still in the picture. -------------
Check my thread in the Great guns thread for Timmy tech help or PM me |
Posted By: gnarkill
Date Posted: 07 October 2004 at 1:46pm
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God will disown you if you do not get a trix or viking. -------------
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Posted By: NotDaveEllis
Date Posted: 07 October 2004 at 5:08pm
| Flyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy |
Posted By: Gatyr
Date Posted: 07 October 2004 at 5:15pm
Indeed he will. -------------
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Posted By: 2k4kev
Date Posted: 07 October 2004 at 5:37pm
I conqer(sp) -------------
KH ARMY>you |
Posted By: ScarFace22
Date Posted: 07 October 2004 at 6:59pm
Well good for him but next week Im ordering the Alias Timmy so I guess Im going to get "disowned" -------------
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Posted By: Gumbe02
Date Posted: 07 October 2004 at 7:00pm
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hahah ...good job ....tell us how you like it ------------- Mag shooter |
Posted By: Civilian Of
Date Posted: 07 October 2004 at 10:57pm
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just something to toss in thurr |
Posted By: 2k4kev
Date Posted: 08 October 2004 at 7:05am
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^that dm4? -------------
KH ARMY>you |
Posted By: Civilian Of
Date Posted: 08 October 2004 at 3:57pm
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Im sellin mine for like $900 |
Posted By: ScarFace22
Date Posted: 09 October 2004 at 9:24am
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Well last night I went to the local pro shop and took a good hour there looking at guns. I got to hold and try a DM3 LCD, DM4 and a Timmy (not the Alias model unfortunatly). I would rate them like this 1) Timmy 2) DM4 3) LCD After going there and looking ald feelig those guns I'm pretty much dead set in the Timmy. -------------
Check my thread in the Great guns thread for Timmy tech help or PM me |