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Topic: Looking for Accurate Barrel
Posted By: bassman97
Subject: Looking for Accurate Barrel
Date Posted: 27 September 2004 at 6:53pm
I am new to paintball and so far I had my 98 Custom for a week now and I
love it. I just don't like the barrel since it has no accuracy what so ever.
I'm thinking of getting a rifled barrel from either Empire, Pathogen, or
Armson. I'm would like to use a 13" or 16" Armson since it seems better
but I would like another opinion. Are their any cons to the ones listed and
are their any better ones under $75 in terms of accuracy? I will probably
play mostly in my backyard which is a forest/swamp.



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Posted By: triggerhappy1
Date Posted: 27 September 2004 at 7:07pm
under $75.... maybe dye ultralite, smartparts all american, and many others, but the best would be the flatline. try to get a good deal on e-bay.

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Posted By: Exit-Wound
Date Posted: 27 September 2004 at 7:13pm
Using anything larger than a 14 inch barrel is not recommended, as they do not improve accuracy. My 14 inch Lapco Bigshot is very nice. Many players use them. A variety of paint will work in them, as the barrel is a medium bore size, but I find that Marbalizers work the best. Search other topics regarding barrels and you will keep hearing the Lapco Bigshot come up. For around $50 to $60 bucks it's a sweet deal.

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Posted By: Mehs
Date Posted: 27 September 2004 at 7:20pm
I wouldn't get an Armson Stealth, the company tends to mess up on making it for the 98 custom, by having the threads not fit.  If I were you I would go with something like a J&J Ceramic, or a Lapco Bigshot, which can be found at http://www.countypaintball.com
Also, don't get anything after 14", it is a waste of air, anything after 14" is a waste of gas, and doesn't improve anything.


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Posted By: BearClaw
Date Posted: 27 September 2004 at 7:24pm
The J&J is amazing it is really quiet and is pretty accurate and it is cheaper than most other barrels too.

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Posted By: A_Speedball_5
Date Posted: 27 September 2004 at 7:33pm

Lapco Bigshot $50

or

J&J Ceramic $35



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Posted By: bassman97
Date Posted: 28 September 2004 at 3:13pm
Originally posted by Mehs Mehs wrote:

I wouldn't get an Armson Stealth, the company tends to
mess up on
making it for the 98 custom, by having the threads not fit.  If I
were you I would go with something like a J&J Ceramic, or a Lapco
Bigshot, which can be found at http://www.countypaintball.com
Also, don't get anything after 14", it is a waste of air, anything after 14" is
a waste of gas, and doesn't improve anything.




As far as the threads, is that because there are two types for the 98
Custom? I was reading their site and according to them, serial numbers
under 400,000 something have different threads in which they make a
barrel for those threads only. Also, anyone know anything about the
Pathogen and Empire Twister?


Posted By: PlentifulBalls
Date Posted: 28 September 2004 at 3:15pm
Originally posted by A_Speedball_5 A_Speedball_5 wrote:

J&J Ceramic $35



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Posted By: Frobs
Date Posted: 28 September 2004 at 3:33pm

lapco bigshot is better than the j&j, but is like 10 or 20 $ more expencive... if you want accuracy, get one of them, or a kit (kits are $$$ tho) if you wnat distance, well, youre forced to get the flatline



Posted By: Boydster
Date Posted: 28 September 2004 at 5:20pm

Get either a Bigshot or J&J Ceramic.

I have both and like the Ceramic the most. It's quiet and it's just as accurate as the Bigshot. I have the Ceramic on in my sig.



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Posted By: boomstick
Date Posted: 28 September 2004 at 5:22pm
I have dye boomstick and i love it. But, my brother has a lapco bigshot and it is just as good. except i payed 100 for my barrel and he payed 50 for his. So i would highly recoment the bigshot.

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Posted By: Boydster
Date Posted: 28 September 2004 at 8:44pm

Originally posted by boomstick boomstick wrote:

I have dye boomstick and i love it. But, my brother has a lapco bigshot and it is just as good. except i payed 100 for my barrel and he payed 50 for his. So i would highly recoment the bigshot.

 Now I've got proof! Everyone told me to get a Boomstick instead of my Ceramic and since the Ceramic is as good as the Bigshot, I have a Boomstick quality barrel. Yea!



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Posted By: MVNScrub
Date Posted: 29 September 2004 at 3:04am
Go with the j&j but if you really want something thats accurate i suggest the dye boomstick, only problem is it costs 110 dollars....mayb not worth the money if your not playing often.

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Posted By: ACDC A5
Date Posted: 29 September 2004 at 8:24am
MVNScrub is right about the boomstick they are very accurate but expensive. I got a Lapco Bigshot and its quite accurate. U can also go with J&J Ceramic, or Smart Parts All American both are really good and are set at a good price

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Posted By: sniperman98c
Date Posted: 29 September 2004 at 8:29am

I got the tippmann 14in sniper barrel. I paied 50 for it and i paied 110 for my dye boomb stick and its sad to say the the shorter barrel is just as accurate as the 18in boomb stick.



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Posted By: ItalianoGuy04
Date Posted: 29 September 2004 at 8:55am
dye ultralight, or a lapco big shot (get bead-blasted if you play woodsball...

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Posted By: LordJovian
Date Posted: 29 September 2004 at 9:27am
The Ultralight really is light, and a really good barrel. With marbs I can hit people at flatline ranges (of course, using advanced lobbing skills) and still get breaks (also not from barrel) because its got a really good (small) spread with marbs. Plus, it balances weight off the front of my gun's setup, and I don't even feel the recoil anymore.

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Posted By: 98c - baller
Date Posted: 29 September 2004 at 11:06am
bigshot


Posted By: areav51.com
Date Posted: 29 September 2004 at 11:59am
Originally posted by Mehs Mehs wrote:

I wouldn't get an Armson Stealth, the company tends to mess up on
making it for the 98 custom, by having the threads not fit.


Not any more, Pro-team bought Armson and is makeing threads for the 98 custon and more.

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Posted By: bassman97
Date Posted: 30 September 2004 at 3:23pm
So far I'm being recommended to buy smooth-bore barrels rather than
rifled. I'm wondering, how come smooth bore is better vs. rifled? It seems
to go against what I know (though my knowledge of paintball is limited, I
have a good knowledge of guns).


Posted By: Boydster
Date Posted: 30 September 2004 at 4:11pm

Rifling causes projectiles to spin. Now that that is said, imagine throwing a football in a spiral. Goes straight and true. Now imagine a baseball picture throwing a curve ball. See the difference? Bullets are football shaped and paintballs are baseball shaped. Any spin will throw it off badly. And Armson doesn't put 'real' rifling on. That just causes problems and they would spend money to make a barrel that doesn't work.



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Posted By: bassman97
Date Posted: 30 September 2004 at 5:36pm
But what about the old Kentuckey Rifle which used a musket ball and was
rifled? That was more accurate than a smooth-bore. Anyway, if Armson
doesn't truely rifle their barrels, isn't that false advertisement?


Posted By: Boydster
Date Posted: 30 September 2004 at 7:11pm
I don't know about the musket part and guess it is false advertising on Armson's part.

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Posted By: Frobs
Date Posted: 30 September 2004 at 8:19pm
because rifling dont work for paintball, well it works, as the ball does spin, but it dont work good


Posted By: ItalianoGuy04
Date Posted: 01 October 2004 at 6:14pm
just get a flatline and be done with it..

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Posted By: bassman97
Date Posted: 02 October 2004 at 8:53am
Thanks for your help guys. Since I don't have the money for a flatline, I
will consider either the J&J or the Lapco.


Posted By: ItalianoGuy04
Date Posted: 02 October 2004 at 10:26am
kk big-shot or snapshot are your best choices thou...

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Posted By: Balls4U
Date Posted: 02 October 2004 at 9:11pm

   I've never used the lapco bigshot or the J&J ceramic, but if getting a good barrel for a good price is what you're looking for, I'd go for the SmartParts Boss Progressive 12" ( $35 ) I have it on my 98c and it is very accurate compared to the 12" Tippmann sniper barrel ( $55 ) that I was using before. Added bonus is that my gun is now twice as quiet as it was before. The honing in the barrel is identical to that of the Freak Jr. ( $99 ) barrel, making it almost just as good of a barrel, for less than half the price. Hope that helps you out.



Posted By: bassman97
Date Posted: 02 October 2004 at 10:00pm
My last question. Does porting affect accuracy or distance?


Posted By: Jeet Kune Do
Date Posted: 02 October 2004 at 11:49pm
Neither it affects sound. If a barrel is ported it is quieter that one that is not. It has more places than just one for the gas to go out. Although it is quieter it also uses more gas than a non-ported.


Posted By: Jeet Kune Do
Date Posted: 02 October 2004 at 11:58pm
Neither it affects sound. If a barrel is ported it is quieter that one that is not. It has more places than just one for the gas to go out. Although it is quieter it also uses more gas than a non-ported.

 Also along with the question about the musket. In alot of smooth bore muskets the musket balls would bounce around while traveling down the barrel. So if you seen any picutes of that kentucky rifled musket look at the size comparison of the barrel to a musket ball. I have never looked at one its just a thought. Also, did the kentucky rifle use musket balls or minnie balls.


Posted By: bassman97
Date Posted: 03 October 2004 at 10:34am
The Kentuckey Rifle (which was rifled) used musket balls since the Minnie
Ball wasn't invented yet. This is why I would think a rifled barrel would
make a paintball gun more accurate but it seems to make no difference.


Posted By: Greg Smith
Date Posted: 03 October 2004 at 11:34am
Originally posted by bassman97 bassman97 wrote:

My last question. Does porting affect accuracy or distance?


No.

Any of the barrels listed will be fine. Much more important to your accuracy is going to be the paint you use. The better the paint the better your accuracy wil lususally be. Keep everything clean and in good working order and the choice of barrel won't make much difference at all.

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