help, o god help me plz :(
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Topic: help, o god help me plz :(
Posted By: balla58
Subject: help, o god help me plz :(
Date Posted: 18 October 2004 at 4:22pm
| argh, could som1 PLEASE tell me what the difference between a a5 and 98c with egrip and ebolt installed in each is??? ive done my research and i still dont know >< |
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Posted By: j2duhr
Date Posted: 18 October 2004 at 4:35pm
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REresearch. ------------- yay do i win? |
Posted By: DrunkDriver
Date Posted: 18 October 2004 at 4:36pm
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The A5 is a newer gun made by tippmann then the 98c. The Ebolt only works on the 98c and can be retrofited for the model 98c. The Egrip only works on the A5. ------------- http://img204.imageshack.us/my.php?image=260991706090alb8rs.jpg"> 
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Posted By: Shadowminion
Date Posted: 18 October 2004 at 4:42pm
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Functionally , they are the same , each for their own gun . ------------- SL68-II , micro honed and polished .688" bore . Tuff Enuf . Widowmaker , under construction |
Posted By: balla58
Date Posted: 18 October 2004 at 5:00pm
| ya, i know that i mean what would b a better gun, cuz with both the electronic upgrades they would b both about the same price, so should i just go wit the a5 since it has cyclone system? |
Posted By: kiolia
Date Posted: 18 October 2004 at 5:02pm
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the egrip is a sear-tripping grip frame, similar to an eSpyder, for the A-5. The ebolt is a rambolt similar to the operation of a bushmaster BKO and only works in the model 98 and 98c. ------------- http://www.kiolia.com/shadowfolk"> 
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Posted By: balla58
Date Posted: 18 October 2004 at 5:38pm
| meh, again i know what both of them do, but would the a5 w/ egrip b better off since it has cyclone? cuz the 98c wit ebolt is about same price as a5 w/ egrip |
Posted By: Kevin Z
Date Posted: 18 October 2004 at 5:45pm
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Look, the 98 Custom with an E-bolt is awesome, but it's useless without a good hopper (Halo B or Reloader B) So an A5 with E-Grip is much cheaper than an 98Custom with E-Bolt and Halo. However, the E-Bolt is a pnuematic ram that is fast and smoother than you can imagine. It doesn't have the heavy rear bolt as a consequence has little to no recoil. ------------- United States Marine Corps.... When it absolutely, positively, has to be destroyed overnight! Just say NO to junk mods |
Posted By: balla58
Date Posted: 18 October 2004 at 5:58pm
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well...y wouldnt i just get a halo hopper for the a5? |
Kevin Z wrote:Posted By: twistedkev1990
Date Posted: 18 October 2004 at 6:01pm
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go with the a-5 because i done a little reasearch and msrp a tippmann with an e bolt is like $330-$360 and the a-5 with an egrip is like $300. Another thing is if you play in the rain and u have a a-5 with an e grip you can put the reg grip on in less than 10 mins. with the 98 and the e bolt its a lot longer and not really made to be taken out/ put in quickly
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Posted By: ElkillerSancho
Date Posted: 18 October 2004 at 6:06pm
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yeah stick with the a5 cuz it does have the cyclone feed system. one question i got the response trigger installed on my a5 and how do you know if its working?????
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Posted By: DrunkDriver
Date Posted: 18 October 2004 at 6:21pm
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The 98c is better, just get a electro hopper. You will be spending more for that silly cyclone feed system. You know the R/T is working if when you pull the trigger it pushes it back quite fast. ------------- http://img204.imageshack.us/my.php?image=260991706090alb8rs.jpg">
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Posted By: balla58
Date Posted: 18 October 2004 at 6:28pm
| can u get different hoppers for the a5 tho? or just the one that it comes with?? |
Posted By: DrunkDriver
Date Posted: 18 October 2004 at 6:37pm
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There is another you get get soon, i believe. I think it comes out around December. ------------- http://img204.imageshack.us/my.php?image=260991706090alb8rs.jpg">
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Posted By: @5 M@$T@
Date Posted: 18 October 2004 at 7:16pm
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The a5 is better because of the cyclone. Get that. Unless you want to buy an ebolt and then an electronic hopper to keep up with the ebolt. The a5 is better. ------------- I'm going to the darkside... |
Posted By: DrunkDriver
Date Posted: 18 October 2004 at 7:26pm
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Naw, the 98c is way better, you are paying a lot more for the cyclone then what it would cost you to get a electro hopper. And the cyclone looks terrible with that ugle hopper and the unit itself is huge and stuck on the side of the marker. ------------- http://img204.imageshack.us/my.php?image=260991706090alb8rs.jpg">
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Posted By: Detz
Date Posted: 18 October 2004 at 7:30pm
because with the cyclone u dont need it ------------- DETZ A-5 20oz Pure Energy on/off flatline to come: lapco bigshot HPA - still not sure |
Posted By: balla58
Date Posted: 18 October 2004 at 7:30pm
| uh, that new hopper comin out in december is it electronic? |
Posted By: wasted100001
Date Posted: 18 October 2004 at 8:59pm
theres a new a5 hopper comin out???? |
Posted By: MROD
Date Posted: 19 October 2004 at 12:44pm
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why would they come out with an electric A-5 hopper? The cyclone feeds as fast as the a-5 can shoot. ------------- I need to find smaller pictures for my profile. |
Posted By: ScarFace22
Date Posted: 19 October 2004 at 1:02pm
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The E-bolt for the M98 is electro pnumatic and works like high-end guns. The E-Grip is an electro sear tripper like an electro spyder.
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Posted By: mobius_1
Date Posted: 19 October 2004 at 3:38pm
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I used to run an ebolt in my 98c with a halo b and a flatline...I loved it, I played in all weather situations with it rain, shine, snow. It was VERY SMOOTH. The speed was incredible. Was reliable and efficient. I can't praise it enough. If you follow the directions it is easy to install and to operate. It is a very good setup. ------------- "Here are beauties which pierce like swords or burn like cold iron." -C.S. Lewis |
Posted By: chronzak
Date Posted: 19 October 2004 at 5:25pm
it isnt going to be electro, its just a new design, the ricochet design and its coming out in Nov. e bolt costs alot more than e grip |
Posted By: mobius_1
Date Posted: 19 October 2004 at 5:41pm
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The e-bolt may cost more, but look at what you are getting, you are completely changing your gun from a sear-tripper to a electro-pneumatic gun. Where the e-grip is keeping the A-5 a sear tripper. Hmmmmm....I can think of a cple guns that are electro-pneumatic...WDP Angels...Bushmasters...some very good guns IMO. I have quite a lot of knowledge with the ebolt so let me know if I can help you. I had my 98c setup with the low-pressure kit and the ebolt and the flatline...it was a crazy setup but it was a blast to shoot on response mode, my Halo B would empty fast as greased lightning. ------------- "Here are beauties which pierce like swords or burn like cold iron." -C.S. Lewis |
Posted By: Bonestock98
Date Posted: 19 October 2004 at 5:47pm
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They're commin out wit a riccochet(sp) dunno when. ------------- F.A.T.T.S.W.F.A.-Forumers Against Things That Start With "Forumers Against" |
Posted By: balla58
Date Posted: 19 October 2004 at 7:07pm
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ya, i never knew that the cyclone sytem is just as same as an electronic hopper. ur probly the first person that posted GOOD reasons haha, so im i should just go wit the 98c?? |
Posted By: mobius_1
Date Posted: 19 October 2004 at 8:07pm
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Well you need to consider how much money you want to spend. If you want everything the ebolt in the 98c has to offer you will want to have a evo II or a rickochet apache at the very least, a halo B is preferable. I would reccomend a good HPA tank cause when you start using turbo or response mode you will get shoot down with CO2 whether u go with an A-5 or 98c due to the poor recharge rate of CO2. Plus HPA is more consistant. This is a big step to take you really need to ask yourself if you are ready for this...cause you will use more paint and have to buy batteries from there on out. I had a 98c setup with the low-pressure kit and the ebolt and the flatline and I was extremely pleased, it was heavy with all this but that didn't bother me. It was the LP kit that added all the weight. If you go with an ebolt you won't notice much of a difference. I actually am in the middle of buying back my 98c setup I had, the guy I sold it to is switching over to stock class pump play and is selling me the gun back so he can buy a phantom. The downside to a 98c is the clam shell design so it can be a little time consuming to take it all apart. It is a minor nuisance. I have played with an A-5 and I will give it credit it is a very good gun in even in stock trim. I borowed my cousins for a day so I could test it for myself and I was impressed. His didn't have the egrip but it was still a good shooting gun. I guess because I have had so much time with the 98c, it got me through my first tournies and my first yrs of paintball. I played 2 TWC with it and 3 MMG's and all kinds of walk on days. I put the ebolt through most of that as well and I will swear by it. If I can think of anything else I will post it. ------------- "Here are beauties which pierce like swords or burn like cold iron." -C.S. Lewis |
Posted By: balla58
Date Posted: 19 October 2004 at 9:00pm
| so im goin wit 98c, should i get the R/T? or a double trigger |
Posted By: mobius_1
Date Posted: 19 October 2004 at 9:19pm
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You can use both together. Did I help answer you questions about the ebolt? I don't know as much about the R/T though so you may want to ask some others about that. ------------- "Here are beauties which pierce like swords or burn like cold iron." -C.S. Lewis |
Posted By: balla58
Date Posted: 19 October 2004 at 10:08pm
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ya, uve been a lot of help bro thx, but if i get the bolt should i get the low pressure system to? |
Posted By: mobius_1
Date Posted: 19 October 2004 at 10:21pm
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not in my opinion. It makes the gun pretty heavy and the advantages of it weren't as noticeable as one might expect. The ebolt already delivers most of what you gain from the lp kit such as less recoil, a quieter gun, more accuracy IMO because of the smoother operation. If you were staying mechanical without the ebolt or R/T and wanted to get the most out of HPA then ya get it. I think it takes away from the ebolt myself. I just got it because I have a tinkering problem...part of the reason I have a cocker, cause I like to tweak every ounce of performance possible. It's a bad habit that leaves me with less money to play. Ok well let me know if you have other questions. ------------- "Here are beauties which pierce like swords or burn like cold iron." -C.S. Lewis |
Posted By: Robert_Hawker
Date Posted: 20 October 2004 at 2:18am
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everyone says the cyclone is so big hold the cyclone and hopper up to a halo and you tell me which is bigger. the cyclone its sely is no bigger than half a coke can and it will feed like 30ish without breaking youl never get it up that fast but it will. why do you think tippmann uses it on the hellhound or was i the only one to notice that!!! ------------- Tipp A-5 Opsgear Saw Shroud Opsgear G36 Folding Stock 16" j&j |
Posted By: evil_fingers
Date Posted: 20 October 2004 at 3:18am
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Get the A5 wit the E-grip and if you want to, you can always remove or replace the Cyclone and mod a 98c elbow feed to it to accept whatever brand of electronic hoppers and if you dont think its possible...its been done by other A5 owners. ------------- Do not steal....the government hates competition! 
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