Heres my new gun, just traded my imp for it. It also has the full nexus kit in it. only thing stock on the gun is the lpr but i have an eclipse one on the way.

wo snap! sick gun 9/10

that trade was sooo worth it! imps just cant be compared to cockers.

Rembrandt wrote: Yeah but the cocking rod still hits me. I'm just used to sticking my face almost right on the gun with my old imp.

turtle it...

and you cant really say "the only thing stock is the lpr", your still using the stock front and rear blocks, stock cocking rod, and stock reg. nothing wrong, just pointing that out.

nice gun anyhow, i love bm's.

A-5 bunkerking wrote: Rembrandt wrote: Yeah but the cocking rod still hits me. I'm just used to sticking my face almost right on the gun with my old imp. turtle it... and you cant really say "the only thing stock is the lpr", your still using the stock front and rear blocks, stock cocking rod, and stock reg. nothing wrong, just pointing that out. nice gun anyhow, i love bm's.

Tutle it.. I've looked into that. A little to pricy for me. As for the stock parts I know but i honestly don't know any one that changes out the front and rear blocks and the cocking rod. And being a Black Magic Reg there really isn't much point to change that out b/c i think it works just as good as most aftermarket regs.

Rembrandt wrote: A-5 bunkerking wrote: Rembrandt wrote: Yeah but the cocking rod still hits me. I'm just used to sticking my face almost right on the gun with my old imp. turtle it... and you cant really say "the only thing stock is the lpr", your still using the stock front and rear blocks, stock cocking rod, and stock reg. nothing wrong, just pointing that out. nice gun anyhow, i love bm's.   Tutle it.. I've looked into that. A little to pricy for me. As for the stock parts I know but i honestly don't know any one that changes out the front and rear blocks and the cocking rod. And being a Black Magic Reg there really isn't much point to change that out b/c i think it works just as good as most aftermarket regs.

not many people replace the front block, but replacing the back block is a good idea. get a featherlight back block, the entire block is made out of delrin so it it much lighter. therefor increacing your cycle rate and lowering your psi.alot of people get the kapp cocking rod, very easily maintained and it looks great. the back magic reg is one of the better regs, but aka sidewidners, and macdev regs still prevail.

i still defninatly recomend turteling it. i used to own a turtled e-orracle. that thing ripped. the turtle conversion lightens up the gun, increased the cycle rate by alot, makes it alot quieter, and with the turtle valve the operating pressure is around 100psi.

feel free to ask any other questions about upgrading or maintaining cockers.

Rembrandt wrote: Did you get yours done somewhere or did you buy it Turtled? If you got it done somewhere, where and what was the price I've been trying to compare prices from different places that do it.

theres only one place... turtle cockers. other places may try it, but i would only trust bob long himself (not the timmy bob long)

I don't have any experience with turtled cockers, but you definitely need to replace the pump arm and back block. I have already done this conversion, and I tell you what, the difference it made is HUGE! CCM makes a lightweight aluminum pump arm and delrin back block, and it made a bigger difference than the TRV's that I put on my gun. Nice cocker bro, anyone that has a pimped cocker I can respect. I only need to do a better LPR on mine and it will be done. If you want to order those CCM parts for your gun, you can find them here:

http://www.chipleymachine.com

They aren't a very big company, but they make the best parts in my opinion. I have fired both of the cockers they build, and use exclusively their parts to upgrade my gun, almost. The only non-CCM upgrade I have on my gun is my ram, because they don't build a ram with exhaust valves.

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