Windows=pain in the ***
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Topic: Windows=pain in the ***
Posted By: MROD
Subject: Windows=pain in the ***
Date Posted: 28 October 2004 at 12:00pm
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The other day this icon came up on my screen that said Windows had downloaded an upgrade called service Pack II. When I checked it out it said it held some critical stuff so I installed it regardless of the fact that each time I had installed one of their upgrades it made my computer slower. Well, when Windows made XP they decided to not put a firewall in it. This new Service pack II had a firewall. That firewall and my other firewall didn't like each other and kept conflcting and making my browser slow. So, angry at this stupid upgrade I went to System Restore to get rid of Service Pack II. When the computer restarted Windos crashed and I lost all my work including a 10 page short story in progress and tons of research papers. We had to wipe the hardrive and reinstall Windows. Anyone else have similar issues? ------------- I need to find smaller pictures for my profile. |
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Posted By: Enos Shenk
Date Posted: 28 October 2004 at 12:49pm
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You should know better then to trust an "update" from microsoft. Thats happened to about a billion people now.
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Posted By: NiQ-Toto
Date Posted: 28 October 2004 at 12:53pm
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Incuding my brother, even though i told him NOT to install it, he did anyway, that moron... ------------- ///AMG What? |
Posted By: Frozen Balls
Date Posted: 28 October 2004 at 12:54pm
apple's updates actually work. 
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Posted By: MROD
Date Posted: 28 October 2004 at 1:06pm
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Anybody have Linux on their computer? Does it work alot better than Windows? ------------- I need to find smaller pictures for my profile. |
Posted By: Solipsism
Date Posted: 28 October 2004 at 1:19pm
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SP2 works great for me, XP is now more stable and slightly faster. Of course I turned the dumb firewall off.
And another thing, you should never use system restore, because it breaks things instead of fixing them -------------  http://solipsism.ath.cx - solipsism.ath.cx |
Posted By: Robert_Hawker
Date Posted: 28 October 2004 at 1:21pm
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i have never had a problem with my windows updates? then again i never had an internal firewall i allways used my network firewall. ------------- Tipp A-5 Opsgear Saw Shroud Opsgear G36 Folding Stock 16" j&j |
Posted By: SandMan
Date Posted: 28 October 2004 at 1:46pm
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I've never had a problem with the updates, either... Of course you don't use the built in firewall, though... ------------- Real Men Love Cheeses |
Posted By: Enos Shenk
Date Posted: 28 October 2004 at 2:01pm
No it doesnt. -------------
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MROD wrote:Posted By: Apu
Date Posted: 28 October 2004 at 2:02pm
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/me pats OSX.
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Posted By: SandMan
Date Posted: 28 October 2004 at 2:15pm
Yeah... You gotta love OSX. It's a heck of a reliable paperweight.
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Posted By: Hairball!!!
Date Posted: 28 October 2004 at 2:18pm
At least I don't have to configure my paperweight out the wazoo, or deal with it crashing.
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Posted By: SandMan
Date Posted: 28 October 2004 at 2:21pm
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Which would be handy... If it did anything useful beyond video editing and word processing... And if it didn't cost 50% more for 80% less functionality.
Heck, I can go out in the parking lot and find you a really darn reliable rock for free. It doesn't crash or anything... EVER.  ------------- Real Men Love Cheeses |
Posted By: Jet87
Date Posted: 28 October 2004 at 2:38pm
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I had Service Pack 2 installed and it actually works really good and when you go to websites that install spyware without you knowing, it prompts and asks if you want to install and then the name of whatever it is. Thus my PC has been saved from spyware many a time from it. -------------  "Rock and Roll ain't noise pollution"
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Posted By: PaintballWizard
Date Posted: 28 October 2004 at 3:11pm
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This may sound dumb but you should of tried a knoppix live cd to get your documents. And I have sp2 and it doesnt bother me at all. ------------- 
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Posted By: RfUiLreZ
Date Posted: 28 October 2004 at 3:16pm
I think I'm one of the forums only strictly Linux users left. I know patrick and tom (Hairball) used to use linux. And a few of the people on IRC have tried it and can manage getting around in it. As far as working better than Windows, that all depends on your definition of "Better". Stability wise, Linux is about as stable as they come. Alot of web servers run Linux for the fact that they can stay up for hundreds of days at a time. As far as funtionality, anything you can do in Windows for the most part can be done on Linux. Exept for games. As with Mac, games aren't ported to Linux as much as they are made for Windows. The only difference is you actually have to do stuff to get it up and running. Compile software from source rather than just opening a .exe. IMO, learning is part of the fun, as well as the aggrivation of Linux. I am a proud user of Slackware Linux 10.0. If you choose to install Linux, don't PM me for help. I've been there and done that with too many people. There is plenty of documentation on it to get you on your feet. K. Thx. Bye. |
Posted By: ItalianoGuy04
Date Posted: 28 October 2004 at 3:41pm
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if you can't use windows right... you shouldn't own a comp. ------------- 
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Posted By: SandMan
Date Posted: 28 October 2004 at 4:14pm
See... Now that's just dumb. ------------- Real Men Love Cheeses |
Posted By: MROD
Date Posted: 28 October 2004 at 4:15pm
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Okay, so I've come to the conclusion that System Restore was part of the problem. Mental note: never use that again.
HAHA you're so funny. It's not that I didn't use windows right it's that I listened to Windows and did what it said supposidly works. ------------- I need to find smaller pictures for my profile. |
Posted By: RenegadeGopher
Date Posted: 28 October 2004 at 4:15pm
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um. Sp2 sucks. Windows is now more involved and "Caring" about your
pc's spyware and update and stuff, as if they're going to release
another service pack anytime soon.. just turn the firewall on, and the
icon in startup will stop popping up all the time. it doesn't do much
anyway, its made by windows..
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Posted By: Project Irene
Date Posted: 28 October 2004 at 5:58pm
| Yeah, I done that service pact thing along time ago. I deactivated windows firewall cause mine is better. And alot of those updates are very helpful contrary to the windows haters on the forum. |
Posted By: Enos Shenk
Date Posted: 28 October 2004 at 6:10pm
Ive never understood your bizarre dislike of OSX, i would blame it on complete ignorance, but i suppose youll dispute that. At least i can prove one part of your "argument" wrong XP Home: $186.99 from http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00005MOTF/104-7081011-5836714?v=glance&s=software - http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00005MOTF/104 -7081011-5836714?v=glance&s=software 10.3: $108.99 from http://www.macmall.com/macmall/shop/detail.asp?dpno=296382 - http://www.macmall.com/macmall/shop/detail.asp?dpno=296382 Maybe you have dyslexia and you just got your numbers backwards. -------------
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Posted By: keithx
Date Posted: 28 October 2004 at 11:04pm
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i installed SP2 on multiple machines without a hitch... only problem i had was norton corporate didn't play well with the "antivirus monitor"... the firewall asks you to permit applications to go out... which is kind of interesting... since i've seen several applications during install try and go out to their companies sites... windvd is one of them... other than that... it fixes some wireless issues with WPA which is what i use... so that was alright... i have a dedicated linux machine that i use for apache, mySQL, and any programming for school... my PC runs XP but its a strictly gaming machine... and my laptop runs debian/xp, although debian hasn't been getting much use since i just SSH into my linux box if i need to use linux for anything (compiling, etc)... ------------- I prefer .223 over .68 --------------------- A-5 R/T Flatline w/ F/X SD shroud F/X Sniper stock Intruder Assault Foregrip SpecterGear CQB 3pt Sling Crossfire 68/4500 (coming soon) |
Posted By: mbro
Date Posted: 28 October 2004 at 11:20pm
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The windows firewall is quite easy to turn off. Also, sp has always had a built in firewall ------------- 
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Posted By: keithx
Date Posted: 28 October 2004 at 11:24pm
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yea but with SP2 the firewall is on by default... in the past the firewall had to be physically enabled... due to the increase in network centric virus activity (worms/trojans) microsoft figured rather than fixing known vulnerabilities they would just have the firewall in place to prevent the viruses from getting out onto the network... ------------- I prefer .223 over .68 --------------------- A-5 R/T Flatline w/ F/X SD shroud F/X Sniper stock Intruder Assault Foregrip SpecterGear CQB 3pt Sling Crossfire 68/4500 (coming soon) |
Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 28 October 2004 at 11:52pm
I think I need to update my rock, it keeps crashing on me... |
Posted By: Solipsism
Date Posted: 29 October 2004 at 12:25am
This is coming from someone who uses 2k because XP wont run on his ancient box. Also I doubt you have used XP with SP2 installed for any length of time, so be quiet. Also, if you wanted to rid yourself of SP2 you could always just uninstall it. I would advise against ever using system restore at all, I turn it off on every box I used because it breaks stuff worse and eats up space on your drive, filling it with crap. ------------- http://solipsism.ath.cx - solipsism.ath.cx |
Posted By: travis75
Date Posted: 29 October 2004 at 6:06am
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windows and rap are similar to each other.
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Posted By: AdmiralSenn
Date Posted: 29 October 2004 at 7:41am
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SP2 blew the crap outta my system.. so I just turned off all the security and got Norton 2005.
And I've got Linux on my machine, almost never use it though because I have Red Hat 9, which everyone said to get, and then a few weeks later all of a sudden it's "Oh, Red Hat sucks". And now someone will respond telling me I'm an idiot for saying RH9 sucks. Too bad. Currently looking for a Linux distro that does all the stuff I want (NTFS support, uses windows/menus and terminal commands, and will let me learn it fairly easily and then let me switch to a more technical setup (terminal vs Windows-style). But yeah, SP2 is a waste of time. If you already had a security program, shoulda just kept it. In typical Microsoft fashion, it was nothing like what they claimed it would be. ------------- Is God real? You'll find out when you die.
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Posted By: *Stealth*
Date Posted: 29 October 2004 at 8:50am
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I have SP2. had it for a good couple months... But I never saw the firewall ever notify me of it blocking anything, except for programs I was trying to launch... This made me skeptical of its effectiveness.. So, I'm running ZoneAlarm Software Firewall, and AVG anti-virus...Along side SpywareBlaster, SpyBot S&D, Adaware, and Windows washer.. All of which is free, with the exception of Windows Washer... The ZoneAlarm FireWall is pretty beefy, and seems to be very nice, and AVG anti-virus has been working great... Oh and FireFox, just so I dont get much spyware to begin with. ------------- |
Posted By: VisionIMP
Date Posted: 29 October 2004 at 12:00pm
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I dont have a single problem with windows at all. I downloaded SP2 the first day it came out, turned all notifications and firewall off and i dont get bothered at all. It runs faster and is more reliable. Most of the problems you people are complaining about is probably on overdose of spyware in your comp, cause i have none and dont get these errors you guys complain about. ------------- 
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Posted By: MROD
Date Posted: 29 October 2004 at 1:42pm
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With the amazing amount of antispyware software out there i doubt that is the case. Anyone with AOL can scan for spyware anytime and there are countless other free things on the net. ------------- I need to find smaller pictures for my profile. |
Posted By: Sammy
Date Posted: 29 October 2004 at 1:56pm
I think Sandman ment that other software for OSX costs more. Such as Microsoft Office, games, etc. But i might be wrong.. ------------- 
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