Multi-Colored J wrote: Roll Tide wrote: Hope you get it all straitened out. Or flacid. I think that's what he was going for.

I was talking about his relationship with God.

Wait - he's giving up porn?

Why would you do such a thing?

!!!

Its good to see you're willing to do this for the lord.

Good luck with whatever you may do.

whats the point in porn when you can get reall **edited**.

Clark Kent wrote: Wait - he's giving up porn? Why would you do such a thing? !!!

hahaha, that was funny, but yeah, i guess that kinda sux...i mean giving up the porn...

Indeed...

Porn...hmm, I haven't look at it for a whole five minutes. Of course, my dad is in the room. I'm giving up porn, just like the crack addict gives up his habbit for a day because he can't afford it/slept all day.

choopie911 wrote: I can't beleive you're cutting your internet for that.. weak dude, use will power if you really, really want to stop. Dude, everyone does it, and those who say they dont are lying and they do it to. No worries, it'n not unhealthy, if anything it's good for you.

I don't and I am NOT lying.  I am a Christian, I believe in the Bible.  The 10 commandments ( I think the seventh) says "Thou shalt not commit adultery" and in God's eyes, lusting is as bad as committing adultery.  Also, just to let you know, God sees hating as just as bad as murder.

WGP guy wrote: The 10 commandments ( I think the seventh) says "Thou shalt not commit adultery" and in God's eyes, lusting is as bad as committing adultery.

Ok, so god is a tightass.  Is that a reason to give up porn?

WGP , if thats what you feel you need to do , then do it .

Nowhere in the bible does it say nuidity is bad,

nowhere in the bible does it say sex is bad

To want another of the opposite sex is a natural thing, and part of becoming , and coming into manhood . It has nothing to do with the actual wanting , that is hardwired into us , since the dawn of time, men have been attracted to women .

It is how you deal with this that seperates men from animals , be kind, be considerate , be civil , be courteous , and that woman will find you, ,,,, the one that wants you as much as you want her , you may not recogize her face for a while , but you will recognize her spirit , and she will recognize yours .

If all you looking for is Cheep Monkey Sex , then , Ya maybe you should take a break for a while , but if its the urges you feeling, think of whats causing them , (Hardwired human behavior ), and whats making you feel down about those urges (learned societal behavior ) ,. make your decision based upon what you know ,or what you feel , Granted , faith plays a part in this,, but question everything,,, everything,,,,,,,, the truth is out there .

Well yall I know how yall talk about AOL being bad and stuff but I think it has saved me from disconnecting the internet. It got a thing that shows all the sites you have been on and sends them to your parents Screenname so they know what all your looking at. Plus all I use to get on was the Forum and Porn. And if I knew my parents knew what kind of sites I was looking at I dont think I would be able to look at them, because of the shame.

So I guess I dont have to leave...Thank God.

Shadowminion wrote: WGP , if thats what you feel you need to do , then do it . Nowhere in the bible does it say nuidity is bad, nowhere in the bible does it say sex is bad To want another of the opposite sex is a natural thing, and part of becoming , and coming into manhood . It has nothing to do with the actual wanting , that is hardwired into us , since the dawn of time, men have been attracted to women . It is how you deal with this that seperates men from animals , be kind, be considerate , be civil , be courteous , and that woman will find you, ,,,, the one that wants you as much as you want her , you may not recogize her face for a while , but you will recognize her spirit , and she will recognize yours . If all you looking for is Cheep Monkey Sex , then , Ya maybe you should take a break for a while , but if its the urges you feeling, think of whats causing them , (Hardwired human behavior ), and whats making you feel down about those urges (learned societal behavior ) ,. make your decision based upon what you know ,or what you feel , Granted , faith plays a part in this,, but question everything,,, everything,,,,,,,, the truth is out there .

But, the Bible also teaches that we should control our hormones (the "Hardwire human behavior).  Also, the Bible does say sex is bad before marriage, its a sin against your body, which is actually God's property according to him, he is sort of just lending it to you.

Just came across this site - perfect for Honda and other like-minded people...

http://www.xxxchurch.org - www.xxxchurch.org

^^ yes it is   Mt 5:28 "But I say to you that whoever looks at a woman to lust for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart."   if you need more proof then i will provide

honda  i hope it works out for ya   

WGP guy wrote: Shadowminion wrote: WGP , if thats what you feel you need to do , then do it . Nowhere in the bible does it say nuidity is bad, nowhere in the bible does it say sex is bad To want another of the opposite sex is a natural thing, and part of becoming , and coming into manhood . It has nothing to do with the actual wanting , that is hardwired into us , since the dawn of time, men have been attracted to women . It is how you deal with this that seperates men from animals , be kind, be considerate , be civil , be courteous , and that woman will find you, ,,,, the one that wants you as much as you want her , you may not recogize her face for a while , but you will recognize her spirit , and she will recognize yours . If all you looking for is Cheep Monkey Sex , then , Ya maybe you should take a break for a while , but if its the urges you feeling, think of whats causing them , (Hardwired human behavior ), and whats making you feel down about those urges (learned societal behavior ) ,. make your decision based upon what you know ,or what you feel , Granted , faith plays a part in this,, but question everything,,, everything,,,,,,,, the truth is out there . But, the Bible also teaches that we should control our hormones (the "Hardwire human behavior).  Also, the Bible does say sex is bad before marriage, its a sin against your body, which is actually God's property according to him, he is sort of just lending it to you.

THen wait, what the hell is the point in free will if we can't do what we want with our body?

Im Episcapalion (however you spell it) and when we pray (whenever I go, not often) the preist always says those who accept the lord Jesus Christ as our savior has already earned his/her way into heaven, so honestly?  You're wrong, this convorsation is done, i win...

okay, another thing, i cant stand it when people think God can cure everything for you, do everything for you, and all that stuff.  I mean, you can rely on God when things get tough, and pray, but seriously.

You have to put in 100% effort to get done what you need to get done, not 99, or 98, but 100%

If you really need it, God will give you that extra push to get you where you need to go, if you arent supposed to do something, then he wont give you the push, but If you try really hard yourself and pray for strength, then Im sure God will Give you that extera 10% that everyone needs.

Sorry I double posted, i didnt want people with low attention Span to only read like half of my message.

Hades wrote: Clark Kent wrote: Just came across this site - perfect for Honda and other like-minded people... http://www.xxxchurch.org - www.xxxchurch.org Haha. I just had to pimp this once more. Great stuff. http://www.missionarypositions.tv/ - Dont forget to veiw their free video.

hahahahahaha....two word that inspired them were: PORN SUCKS!

lol

"jesus loves porn starts" that made me chuckle...

oh yeah, what in all hells name does Quixotic mean?  sounds like a G. Dublyah Bush word to me, but once again, if it sounds wrong to me...its most likely right...lol.

God, hades, you and Clark always find the funniest crap on the internet...lol

Trogdor2 wrote: Looking at porn isn't against the bible in any way, shape, or form unless you're already married or something...

Aren't you a youth minister? I thought you would know it was, since it was just posted, i wont post it again.

Hey!  I offered actual useful advice, with an actual link to an actual religious site...     :/

In any event:

quix·ot·ic    https://secure.reference.com/premium/login.html?rd=2&u=http%3A%2F%2Fdictionary.reference.com%2Fsearch%3Fq%3Dquixotic"> ( P )  Pronunciation Key  (kwk-stk) also quix·ot·i·cal (--kl)
adj.

Enos Shenk wrote: borntopaint wrote: ^^ yes it is   Mt 5:28 "But I say to you that whoever looks at a woman to lust for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart."   if you need more proof then i will provide honda  i hope it works out for ya    You realize that adultery sort of requires being married, right? Trash like outreach against porn is the kind of crap that makes me despise organized religion. Do what you want, believe what you want, but when you start telling me what i can or cant look at, or what i can and cant do, im going to get pissed.

Its not saying it is adultery, it is saying it is just as bad and merits the same punishments.

Hades wrote: Clark Kent wrote: Just came across this site - perfect for Honda and other like-minded people... http://www.xxxchurch.org - www.xxxchurch.org Haha. I just had to pimp this once more. Great stuff. http://www.missionarypositions.tv/ - Dont forget to veiw their free video.

Hahahaha. That was very funny. "Porn Sucks" lol.

So **edited** porn is ok with god?

(and women looking at naked men?)

That just proves that god is either a woman or a **edited** man.

Enos Shenk wrote: Uhh how do you figure? It flat out says "committed adultery WITH HER"

you forgot a part "in his heart"  so its basically the same, but its not exactly the same.  Its saying that lusting (porn) is like commiting adultery in your heart.  So, wouldn't that merit the same punishment since it is breaking the same commandment?

Pronunciation Key  (-dlt-r, -tr)
n. pl. a·dul·ter·ies

Voluntary sexual intercourse between a married person and a partner other than the lawful spouse.

 

Some people confuse this with:

for·ni·ca·tion    https://secure.reference.com/premium/login.html?rd=2&u=http%3A%2F%2Fdictionary.reference.com%2Fsearch%3Fq%3Dfornication"> ( P )  Pronunciation Key  (fôrn-kshn)
n.

If you're really up on your religion and you r catholic you don't have anything to worry about because, well at least my CCD teacher said, that as long as you repent for your sins ( as the fact that you posted is a perfect example of) God will forgive you. If your like hahaha I jack off and you can stick in your pipe and smoke it god, well he wont forgicve you. Anyway, masturbation isn't a mortal sin it's a venial(or the name for the other one if that wasn't right).

That's just my two cents and I hope I'm right or I'll have alot to explain to God.

AdmiralSenn wrote: 1. It's fake sex because it's there solely for the point of being sex. I don't mean that it's computer generated or anything like that, but it's not 'real' the way that sex in a relationship like marriage is real.

I've had both of those kinds of sex, and some other kinds to boot.  And let me tell you, from experience, it's all quite real.  While sex in different relationship contexts is different, to claim that some sex isn't "real" or to otherwise completely discount it, is either astoundingly ignorant or astoundingly arrogant.

2. Enos, I can't believe you're raising the arguments that you are. The verse is saying that if you're looking at a woman and you lust after her, you might as well have been married to someone else and had sex with this woman. It means that you'd be willing to commit adultery if the situation arose, and probably would. I understand your point about adultery requiring marriage, but I think you're missing that it implies marriage to start with (since most people were married pretty young in those times anyway).

Actually, Enos makes an excellent point.  Are you suggesting that there is no moral difference between ogling another woman when you are married, and ogling any woman when you aren't married?  Are you suggesting that the Bible (in that verse or elsewhere) suggests that there is no such moral difference?  (Not to mention that it would be hard to ever get married if ogling women weren't allowed)

It strikes me as fairly obvious that there is a moral difference, a difference which I believe that the Bible acknowledges.  The Bible in many places distinguishes between adultery and fornication, and treats them quite differently.

Enos Shenk wrote: borntopaint wrote: ^^ yes it is   Mt 5:28 "But I say to you that whoever looks at a woman to lust for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart."   if you need more proof then i will provide honda  i hope it works out for ya    You realize that adultery sort of requires being married, right? Trash like outreach against porn is the kind of crap that makes me despise organized religion. Do what you want, believe what you want, but when you start telling me what i can or cant look at, or what i can and cant do, im going to get pissed.

If you are claiming to be in the least bit righteous or at least claiming to obey god and to care about what he commands then yes  i can show you where It says that you shouldn't look at porn   maybe not in so many words but that is because one couldn't sit at their TV or Pc and do so     but here is my best shot

Ro 13:13 Let us walk properly, as in the day, not in revelry and drunkenness, not in lewdness and lust, not in strife and envy.

 1Co 10:6 ¶ Now these things became our examples, to the intent that we should not lust after evil things as they also lusted.  1Co 10:8 Nor let us commit sexual immorality, as some of them did, and in one day twenty-three thousand fell;

now in that last verse please dont think i am saying God is going to strike you down    The author is speaking of a story that happened to the Isrealites before the new testament / new law was established by Christ  when God was punishing his chosen people for committing sins they new not to do and had been forgiven of before     God does not punish people in the same way as he did His chosen people (who knew better) otherwise people would be droppin dead right and left  but he lets us make our own desicions    we have his will in the bible and we can choose to obey or not and he will judge in the end.

now back to the verses    i understand your point about the adultry but hear me out     in the last verse he warns against sexual immorality     which can be defined as follows

Sexual =

1. Of, relating to, involving, or characteristic of sex, sexuality, the sexes, or the sex organs and their functions.
2. Implying or symbolizing erotic desires or activity.
3. Relating to, produced by, or involving reproduction characterized by the union of male and female gametes: sexual reproduction. 

i want to focus on the second one mainly but the other two apply also

1. The quality or condition of being immoral.
2. An immoral act or practice.

now that we have established what sexual immorality is lets look at some more passages from the bible  that talk about Gods feelings towards it...

Ro 1:29 being filled with all unrighteousness, sexual immorality, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, evil-mindedness; they are whisperers,Ro 1:30 backbiters, haters of God, violent, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,Ro 1:31 undiscerning, untrustworthy, unloving, unforgiving, unmerciful;Ro 1:32 who, knowing the righteous judgment of God, that those who practice such things are deserving of death, not only do the same but also approve of those who practice them.

Look at the group sexual immorality is put in  notice that    haters of God is one of the attributes it is included with    The writer says that the acts listed are deserving of death    not only the people who do them but even people who dont do  them but still approve of them    We can thank the Lord that he doesn't punish his followers the same way he did before Christ